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xoxoxoBruce 08-05-2010 12:31 AM

Aug 5, 2010: China's Big Bus
 
This fall, in Beijing, construction will begin on the first 186km of track for what is called the "3D Express Coach". Rather than acquiring new land, or competing with traffic, this big bus will pass over traffic... and allow traffic to pass under it.

http://cellar.org/2010/abigbus.jpg

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Seriously, this is the future that China's envisioning: huge friggin' buses engulfing smaller cars on the road. Despite the silly picture and the eccentric "3D Express Coach" branding, this cunning project by Shenzhen Huashi Future Car-Parking Equipment actually makes sense. The idea is to make use of the space between regular-size cars and bridges, thus saving construction costs as well as minimizing congestion impact by allowing cars to drive underneath these jumbo buses.
video at the link

toranokaze 08-05-2010 02:52 AM

I foresee this ending very badly

casimendocina 08-05-2010 05:20 AM

Looks pretty innovative to me. If a concept such as the autobahn works, there's a strong possibility that this could work too. Probably just a matter of training drivers appropriately.

SPUCK 08-05-2010 05:21 AM

Yes! Very, very, badly.

Since Chinese can't drive worth a damn now, how are they ever going to handle the added complexity of rolling spaces.

Watch this movie you will see what I mean. It's like they have no idea.


Gravdigr 08-05-2010 05:27 AM

One would have to VERY careful when executing that left turn in Albuquerque.

casimendocina 08-05-2010 05:37 AM

Now is the time to reiterate my theory (based on 1.5 years experience living in beautiful industrial Wuhan) that in places like Australia everyone expects everyone else to do the right thing (follow the rules etc...) and then is surprised/gets really pissed off when they don't. In a place like China, no-one expects anyone to follow the rules, so aren't surprised when they don't and deal with it much better.

Griff 08-05-2010 05:45 AM

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Originally Posted by toranokaze (Post 674596)
I foresee this ending very badly

What could go wrong?


Nikolai 08-05-2010 05:59 AM

Loves Spucks video especially at 2:02 she nudges him over with her car made me chuckle. Was also noticing a lack of decent lines on the roads or traffic lights.

newtimer 08-05-2010 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by casimendocina (Post 674619)
(based on 1.5 years experience living in beautiful industrial Wuhan)

2 years in Wuhan, followed by another 3 in/around Beijing.
In an overcrowded country where many of the drivers only get a license because they are rich enough to bribe the examiner because they're too busy to actually study the rules, there's no way this can end well. However...

Has anybody considered the notion that this could be another government form of population control?

Cloud 08-05-2010 08:29 AM

I think they should invent the stop sign first!

Sundae 08-05-2010 11:38 AM

It appears to run on rails?
In which case, no more dangerous than trams mixed with traffic.

No matter how "adventurous" your driving style, you learn pretty early on not to mess with trams, buses, bin lorries etc. This would be the same.
I question just how economical it would be though. The space taken via the space utilised (for passengers) is less than 50%. Aren't subways still a better solution? NONE of the traffic issues and 99% passenger space?

Clodfobble 08-05-2010 11:46 AM

But if you don't already have subways, digging them from scratch while a city still functions on top is basically impossible. And geology can be a problem too--I don't know about China, but around here we will never, ever have subways because the whole area is sitting on top of solid limestone rock.

But either way, I think the problem with the normal trams is less about danger and more about convenience. They move slowly, and then they stop every couple of blocks and hold up traffic. (This is exactly what our public buses do here.) With this over-traffic model, when the tram stops the rest of the traffic just keeps right on going.

Sundae 08-05-2010 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Clodfobble (Post 674691)
But if you don't already have subways, digging them from scratch while a city still functions on top is basically impossible.

Gotcha. Didn't think of that as our Tube system is so old.
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But either way, I think the problem with the normal trams is less about danger and more about convenience. They move slowly, and then they stop every couple of blocks and hold up traffic. (This is exactly what our public buses do here.) With this over-traffic model, when the tram stops the rest of the traffic just keeps right on going.
Good point also.
I was thinking - again- of European cities that never really STOPPED using the trams and built the roads around them. In Amsterdam the trams go places the cars can't go and vice versa. In Blackpool (Lancashire) the trams serve the tourist routes and are completely separate from cars for most of their journeys. Trams in traffic are no better than buses.

glatt 08-05-2010 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Sundae Girl (Post 674694)
Trams in traffic are no better than buses.

Trams can actually be worse, if you get some idiot car driver blocking the tracks. A bus can drive around. A tram just has to sit there until the car moves.

Cloud 08-05-2010 12:33 PM

what are "trams" as you use that term? electric buses that run on overhead cables?


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