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xoxoxoBruce 06-10-2008 12:19 AM

June 10, 2008: Landship
 
World War I was someone else's business to the majority of Americans. Europe was far, far away, before TV and global communications. In order to win support, for the US getting involved, the government had to do some public relations work... here's one example.

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New York, 1917. "Landship Recruit on Union Square." The U.S.S. Recruit, a wooden battleship erected by the Navy, served as a World War I recruiting station in Union Square from 1917 to 1920.
http://cellar.org/2008/landship.jpg

Flint 06-10-2008 12:20 AM

Did they recruit two of each kind of God's creatures?

Pearcie (AUS) 06-10-2008 03:26 AM

War without TV
 
It's hard to imagine what it would be like to know there was a major war going on and not have constant news stories, interviews, video footage and other technology related media shoving every detail down our throats.

Though it would probably have made it a whole lot easier to recruit.

Shawnee123 06-10-2008 07:39 AM

Landship. Candygram.

spudcon 06-10-2008 08:11 AM

Life was simpler back then. Only 2 guys working, and the rest of the slackers just walking around in their derbys, watching the peasants work. GET A JOB!

Imigo Jones 06-10-2008 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Shawnee123 (Post 460939)
Landship. Candygram.

:( . . . :) "Oh, okay, then. . . ." :eek:

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This pic is along the lines of how I always imagined the Austrian fleet of Capt. Von Trapp. :f10:
"Man overboard! Man overboard!"
"Nein vorry--Ich be back mit zum Edelweiss Strudel in ein Hour."
"Yah, Ensign, You do Dat--und vhile at Bakery, please to check how many Osterreichmarken vor ein Alpenbilly Vedding Cake."

xoxoxoBruce 06-10-2008 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by spudcon (Post 460941)
Life was simpler back then. Only 2 guys working, and the rest of the slackers just walking around in their derbys, watching the peasants work. GET A JOB!

They are waiting to join up. ;)

Diaphone Jim 06-10-2008 10:54 AM

A hundred years later, the US's wars in Iraq and Afghanistan are still "somebody else's business to the majority of Amercans," the burden being borne directly by only a few.
And if you think "TV and global communications" help in some way, then you must get different channels than I do.

Shawnee123 06-10-2008 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Imigo Jones (Post 460981)
:( . . . :) "Oh, okay, then. . . ." :eek:

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:)

newtimer 06-10-2008 01:34 PM

Looks like black was in fashion that year.

Flint 06-10-2008 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by newtimer (Post 461068)
Looks like black was in fashion that year.

Especially when you consider that is actually a color photograph.

Griff 06-10-2008 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Diaphone Jim (Post 460991)
A hundred years later, the US's wars in Iraq and Afghanistan are still "somebody else's business to the majority of Amercans," the burden being borne directly by only a few.
And if you think "TV and global communications" help in some way, then you must get different channels than I do.

If only the dopes with the wooden battleship had failed, wars thar ARE none of our business might never have become so popular.

hulk 06-10-2008 03:54 PM

Holy ship!! That's all fine and dandy, but what do they do when they're done building it? Hire more recruits to tear it apart?

Big Sarge 06-10-2008 04:22 PM

Gee Griff, it sounds like you don't support the current military deployments. LOL.

tw 06-10-2008 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Sarge (Post 461103)
Gee Griff, it sounds like you don't support the current military deployments.

Griff has only paraphrased what is well proven military doctrine. Proven even in military principles taugh 2000 years before North America was discovered. Principles that justify war include 1) the smoking gun, and 2) a well defined strategic objective. Neither existed in Nam. Neither exist in "Mission Accomplished".

A population that learned from history would - well, how few were noting these realities in 2002? How many, instead, blindly believed a president who (according to the mental midget) only talked to god and Cheney? Where is this intelligence that justifies "Mission Accomplished"?

Diaphone Jim 06-10-2008 05:19 PM

xoB always has food for thought.
Besides the Union Square "office" ship, seen finished and colorized here:
http://www.brown.edu/Facilities/Univ...ion_square.GIF

There was another wooden USS Recruit, a large scale mock-up at the San Diego Naval Training Station built after WWII and referred to as the USS Neversail.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Recruit

And a real USS Recruit, a Admirable-Class Minesweeper built in 1943 with a short, sort of strange service in the Pacific:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Recruit_(AM-285)

TheMercenary 06-10-2008 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tw (Post 461112)
Griff has only paraphrased what is well proven military doctrine. Proven even in military principles taugh 2000 years before North America was discovered. Principles that justify war include 1) the smoking gun, and 2) a well defined strategic objective. Neither existed in Nam. Neither exist in "Mission Accomplished".

A population that learned from history would - well, how few were noting these realities in 2002? How many, instead, blindly believed a president who (according to the mental midget) only talked to god and Cheney? Where is this intelligence that justifies "Mission Accomplished"?

Remind us again how many years you served, when and where? Thanks.

Big Sarge 06-11-2008 01:52 AM

As for me, I joined in 1979, but I have a break in service. I am currently deployed & yes this isn't my first time to "see the elephant". LOL. How many of you are old enough to remember that phrase?

I didn't mean to stir the pot. Everybody has their own opinion. I personally believe we are doing the right thing in Iraq. No matter what the media portrays, I know the majority of Iraqis are quite grateful.

It isn't any skin off my teeth if you don't agree. Lord, that's why my troops & I serve - to give you the freedom of choice.

Sorry folks

xoxoxoBruce 06-11-2008 01:58 AM

Don't be sorry Sarge, you done good.
Personally, I don't think you should have been sent there at all, but that doesn't detract from the difficult, thankless, job you've done. :thumb:

Griff 06-11-2008 05:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Sarge (Post 461235)
As for me, I joined in 1979, but I have a break in service. I am currently deployed & yes this isn't my first time to "see the elephant". LOL. How many of you are old enough to remember that phrase?

I didn't mean to stir the pot. Everybody has their own opinion. I personally believe we are doing the right thing in Iraq. No matter what the media portrays, I know the majority of Iraqis are quite grateful.

It isn't any skin off my teeth if you don't agree. Lord, that's why my troops & I serve - to give you the freedom of choice.

Sorry folks

It's all good, speaking your mind is what the Cellar is all about. We're gonna disagree about whether overseas deployments support or subvert American values but that doesn't mean we can't argue about football too. ;)

spudcon 06-12-2008 10:04 AM

Yeah! Football sucks!:p

Big Sarge 06-12-2008 01:24 PM

WTF!!! You say Football sucks? What type of sick person are you????

spudcon - Just kiddin' you

Sundae 06-12-2008 02:49 PM

Anerican football does indeed suck like a starving whore :p
The real football however... it sucketh not.

Shawnee123 06-12-2008 05:23 PM

Them's fightin' woids, gurl! ;)

spudcon 06-12-2008 11:33 PM

Got 'em all stirred up, didn't I?


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