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Griff 01-03-2020 06:41 AM

Iran
 
Trumps Iran work in completely unrelated to re-election. Definitely. Why would anyone think otherwise?

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-a9268691.html

Luce 01-03-2020 08:35 AM

This is going to be the crapsack world we were promised.

Undertoad 01-03-2020 09:31 AM

Y'all need to find consensus on this, if it's a crapsack he'll never get re-elected

Diaphone Jim 01-03-2020 10:59 AM

Wait for it: "You can't impeach me, I'm a War President."

Luce 01-03-2020 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Undertoad (Post 1044066)
Y'all need to find consensus on this, if it's a crapsack he'll never get re-elected

All in all, I would prefer not to have a crapsack.

Unfortunately, they seem to be joined at the hip.

sexobon 01-03-2020 11:16 AM

OTOH, making an example of Soleimani for Iran's Ayatollah Ali Khamenei (and indirectly N. Korea's Kim Jong-un) that conveys we're not going to turn the other cheek, it's not going to be an eye for an eye, and we're not going to wait for another disaster of 9/11 magnitude before we act, may not be a bad idea. Demonstrating that we're willing to preemptively take out those plotting against us may show that an ounce of prevention is still worth a pound of cure. Americans may want a President willing to follow-up on this. Too much snake oil out there.

Happy Monkey 01-03-2020 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Undertoad (Post 1044066)
Y'all need to find consensus on this, if it's a crapsack he'll never get re-elected

Quote:

Originally Posted by Diaphone Jim (Post 1044067)
Wait for it: "You can't impeach me, I'm a War President."

I think that all Presidents with lingering crapsack wars have had two terms.

Griff 01-03-2020 11:54 AM

Not LBJ but we're much more militaristic and nationalistic now.

Undertoad 01-03-2020 11:57 AM

Who said war? It probably won't be war.

Luce 01-03-2020 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Undertoad (Post 1044075)
Who said war? It probably won't be war.

Iran is as incapable of backing down from this as we would be in their situation.

They are nationalistic as hell, with some religious wallpaper over it.

sexobon 01-03-2020 12:34 PM

Let's hope they're all that way, then we won't have to worry about collateral damage.

Luce 01-03-2020 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sexobon (Post 1044077)
Let's hope they're all that way, then we won't have to worry about collateral damage.

If every single one of our munitions hit with pinpoint accuracy, there will still be collateral damage.

Iran isn't just going to sit there, and they can't reach us, so they're going to clobber everyone that they CAN reach that has ever spoken to us in a civil tone of voice.

sexobon 01-03-2020 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luce (Post 1044078)
If every single one of our munitions hit with pinpoint accuracy, there will still be collateral damage.

Not in terms of lives. If they all jump on the nationalistic bandwagon, they all become enemies.

Luce 01-03-2020 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sexobon (Post 1044079)
Not in terms of lives. If they all jump on the nationalistic bandwagon, they all become enemies.

What I am saying is that due to their inability to hit us, they will hit anyone that's friendly to us.

sexobon 01-03-2020 02:49 PM

They're expansionists, they were going to do that anyway.


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