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Flint 12-10-2019 11:54 AM

At first I counted the headers on the Green Monster --48!!-- but I guess it's "just" 24 cylinders.

xoxoxoBruce 12-10-2019 11:59 AM

Yes, four engines.
I read long long ago those zoomie headers pointing up produce a downforce of a couple hundred pounds for just one engine.

Gravdigr 12-10-2019 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Diaphone Jim (Post 1042863)
My 8N could take any of 'em.

To the concession stand, maybe.

Flint 12-11-2019 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 1042869)
Yes, four engines.
I read long long ago those zoomie headers pointing up produce a downforce of a couple hundred pounds for just one engine.

Thought the Allisons were V-12.

I did not know that about the upward-facing headers.
Cool engineering trick to keep your wheels stuck to the ground.

Diaphone Jim 12-11-2019 06:28 PM

They are 12's, hence 48 pipes.
The front ends just sort of wander around.
Do US pulls use a sled with a driver?

Gravdigr 12-11-2019 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Diaphone Jim (Post 1042925)
Do US pulls use a sled with a driver?

Yesirree.

xoxoxoBruce 12-12-2019 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Flint (Post 1042923)
Thought the Allisons were V-12.

You're right, I was looking at the wrong one. :o

Flint 12-12-2019 01:11 PM

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Thought the Allisons were V-12.

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 1042939)
You're right, I was looking at the wrong one. :o

Thought I remembered seeing this at the Don Garlits Museum in Florida...

xoxoxoBruce 12-12-2019 10:23 PM

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In 1959-60, the Chet Herbert sponsored twin SBC motor FED of Lefty Mudersbach had Herbert's version of those upswept pipes, similar to the so called "zoomies" on the later model Hemi powered FEDs.
In the early days before slipper clutches and wrinkle wall slicks the tire would produce so much smoke you often couldn't see the driver, and he couldn't see the track. The initial purpose was to blow smoke away from the driver and as a bonus if any fluid came out of the header(a bad thing) it wouldn't go down on the track in front of the tire like the weed burners.

For some reason I think it was Garlits who discovered the downforce effect but not sure.

xoxoxoBruce 12-12-2019 10:42 PM

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The Hell Cub is owned by Diversatech Incorporated - American Manufacturing in
Pennington, NJ, just above Trenton. I want to get hold of them after the holidays to see if they can do some lazer engraving for me, so Maybe I can see this beast. I'd like to see the driveline.

glatt 12-13-2019 08:25 AM

My grandfather had one of those, and I drove it a lot one summer 30 years ago. His only modification was to have a hose in the radiator cap leading to a plastic jug so he could catch the water that boiled out of the radiator and pour it back in while out in the field.

In hindsight, I wonder why he didn't just use some compressed air to blow the fins of the radiator clean of all the dried grass clippings packed in there.

I learned how to use a grease gun to grease the sickle mower attachment before each use. That was the only maintenance.

It was sold a couple years later for $800, which seemed a little low to me for a tractor that worked.

xoxoxoBruce 12-14-2019 01:45 AM

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Bulletin: It's winter, DUH :facepalm:
This is Oregon but ice happens way down in Texas too.

glatt 12-14-2019 05:50 AM

That looks like hell, but I wonder how many of the carried vehicles are actually completely undamaged?

xoxoxoBruce 12-14-2019 01:39 PM

Undamaged until the whole rig drops off the cliff. :eek:

xoxoxoBruce 12-16-2019 12:01 AM

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One of the first Gradalls, unique idea and all hydraulic.


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