Dec 9, 2010: KKK Wedding
 

A KKK wedding in TN, not 100 years ago, 5 days ago.

http://cellar.org/2010/kkk1.jpg

I didn't know the Klan performed marriages.

http://cellar.org/2010/kkk2.jpg

I guess the tea party doesn't have the authority yet.

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tangent: Why do the KKK burn crosses again?

You'd think they'd try to bolster their public image by going green with those new flickering CFL or LED crosses, they're much more eco-friendly...

That's because the green-tech ones need a battery and a switch, which is way beyond the capabilities of these people

What wonderful people..


NOT!

The definition of pathetic.

A Star of David is too much lumber.

The saddest part of that is the little girl in the second picture. She's going to grow up being taught that crap and won't know any better. :(

If you can successfully remove the burning crosses from the symbolism associated with them, and the hatred and intolerance of the assholes doing it, that's actually a pretty cool picture with those three crosses burning.

Like if you were traveling to a foreign country and there was some local village that celebrated the harvest with a big bonfire of these crosses, or other simple symbols, it would be pretty cool.

yeah. It doesn't look disimilar in tone to some of the solstice photos you see taken around Stone Henge.

Primal.

I'm surprised to see white-costumed and black-costumed members integrated.

Yeah. They're trying to widen their appeal.

How is it again that the KKK is legal?

I thought they were a hate group - but they've gotten around that somehow? Does anyone know?

ETA: the bride and groom - they deserve one another.

I see why they wear those thingys over their heads: those rednecks iz UGLY. Ugly inside, mostly. Being a good person trumps a whole lot of ugly, and they lose on both accounts.

Brianna has got it... otherwise they would infest two more people's lives.

Oh, THAT Klan...never mind.. :D

Brian, very good ! :D

On the same grounds that any other racially-oriented group is legal. (Nation of Islam, NAACP, Hispanic Chamber of Commerce, Black Panthers...)

They're all permitted to assemble, but we're only allowed to call them names and accuse them of bigotry if their members are white.

Poor, persecuted caucazoids. :facepalm:

I am still laughing as I type this:

haggis

(I do not know why the image is reversed)

Sheesh! Gratuitous tea party bashing. It'd be better to keep your politics out of it.

Though the pictures did remind me of Burning Man...

The NAACP was chartered in direct response to slavery, the Panthers began in response to racism and Mexicans are a native minority who have every right to be here. The KKK mission statement extols the virtues of hatred for everyone, except the majority..white (anglo), protestant men. To compare those scared little pukes who belong to the huge majority with a strong countering organization of minorities is inconceivable and irresponsible.

Why, IOD, would you even post this?

Tangiers - The NAACP was formed in 1909 and was not in reponse to slavery. It was a civil rights organization formed to counter state legislation passed in the post-reconstruction era.

The Black Panthers is identified as a hate group by the Southern Poverty Law Center. The group was founded and lead by a violent criminal who later fled to Cuba to avoid prosecution. Read their 10 point program. Pure rascism/hate.

:lol:

I think the point the poster was trying to make was that the NAACP was chartered in direct response to slavery, the Panthers began in response to racism and Mexicans are a native minority who have every right to be here. The KKK mission statement extols the virtues of hatred for everyone, except the majority..white (anglo), protestant men. To compare those scared little pukes who belong to the huge majority with a strong countering organization of minorities is inconceivable and irresponsible.

I could be wrong, though.

Hey little sister what have you done
Hey little sister who's the only one
Hey little sister who's your superman
Hey little sister who's the one you want
Hey little sister shot gun!

It's a nice day to start again
It's a nice day for a white wedding
It's a nice day to start again.

Why does the Klan burn crosses?
 

Well, this is actually sort of an involved question, and the real answer follows:

The klan started right after the end of the civil war. The south was beaten down, and some southern gentlemen, and I use that term seriously, decided it would be fun to form a club and have social events, scare their girlfriends, and engage in other truly innocent games. These men were all of Scottish descent, hence the clan. They were all educated men, and one suggested that kuklos be in the name -- kuklos being Greek for "circle", and he thought that this would engender feelings of comradeship in a time of great hardship. Remember, Lincoln had been assassinated, and the comradery that was felt between the winner (North) and the loser (South) had evaporated over night for all intents and purposes. Instead of TONS of Federal aid pouring into the reconstruction, carpet baggers and other shit heels came down south in order to make as much money by as many illegal, indecent, unscrupulous, and downright dirty ways as possible.
Okay, back to the klan. The klan was undergoing a transformation, rapidly -- from a fun-loving bunch of guys who rode around at night dressed in sheets to scare their girlfriends to the vicious racist band of evil things we know today. Unfortunately, they were well aware of their Scottish heritage, and utilized one element of it.
Going back to the 1600s, when Scottish clans would go to war, the clan priest along with the clan elders would take a LARGE wooden cross to the highest point in their lands and set it ablaze. This had a twofold purpose -- one was to summon the whole clan to the keep, the second was to break the pact with God that all men were supposed to hold. This cross burning carried down through the ages to the post-bellum South, and a horrible and evil tradition was born.
I hope that answers your question. I used to teach a class in college about countercultures in America, and believe me, the Klan was WAY up there. If you want to see a GREAT (if dated) video of the modern Klan, try to find "Blood in the Face".

On a better and mentally healthier note -- Happy Hanukkah, Joyous Yule, and Merry Christmas to one and all!

Because it's interesting. It's not called Lovely Fluffy Happy IOTD.

Image of the Damned?

That's tomorrow's IOTD but you left out Tasty.

it's not always fluffy on Friday.

Maybe we should pre-empt and get busy with the KKK recipes? I was going to do that in my first reply, but i thought it might be tasteless...

Smoky, I bet.

I see, you'd rather I only question the legal authority to marry people, of one inbred racist group per thread.

The Southern Poverty Law Center, (and other law centers like it), has caused most of the wealth and property of the KKK, to be taken away with huge lawsuits from their victims.

Sadly, the neo-nazi movement (and several other racial or ethnic gangs), are still popular, especially in the prison system. Every race has it's gang, and you need to belong to a gang or you're an easy target (and they know it, and they are good at targeting loners). You can't choose to join a gang that isn't your color or your ethnicity.

In earlier days, they had several members in Congress, and several more members were sympathizers, of the KKK.

Anybody know whether the KKK has been officially declared a terrorist organization, by Homeland Security?

Nice one Saknussem. That was very interesting.

... and the bride wore ... well, duh.

It really was. I think it is important to remember the broken pacts at the end of the war and how they lead to the development of hate groups. It smells a lot like the post WWI German experience. None of which excuses the inhumanity of the people involved, we just need to remember that the winners have responsibilities...

According to their beliefs, they are not burning the crosses. They are "lighting" them to shine the teachings of Jesus Christ to all the world. That the cross itself is consumed is irrelevant.

Originally, the KKK was not a racist organization. And some KKK organizations today still are not. Some actually have black, hispanic, and asian members.

Originally, the KKK was created as a vigilante group to police their own towns and were used extensively when the real police and courts could do nothing about lawbreakers and criminals.

For example, if a man beat his wife and the police could do nothing, then the KKK would light a cross in the guy's front yard as a warning. If that warning went unheeded, then the KKK would take the guy out into the woods and explain the nature of the problem to him.

It originally was NOT about racism. It was about law and order. The fact that some (most?) KKK groups today are racist doesn't change this historical fact.

(I'm not a KKK member. I just like accurate history to be taught.)

Since classic is not around, I fixed that for you.;)

What a bunch of wimps, though. Real men don't wear anything under their skirts....

Agreed, and wiki is my online mother, she's never wrong.

Yeah. And we know that Wiki is never inaccurate about anything as well as know that Wiki has never been purposefully used to spread misinformation fueled by political, economic, religious, and social biases.

Yeah, you're right.

Do you have an alternate source to back up your post?

Oh, and welcome! :)

yup, the KKK manifesto.....

You might want to know the history of one of the major political parties in the country. Because the above quote is certainly inaccurate.


It was the Democrats who set up the Jim Crow laws of the South, and fought so hard against racial equality, negro voter registration, civil right, fair housing, and integration.

"The Republican party was founded by anti-slavery expansion activists in 1854, it is often called the Grand Old Party (GOP). The party's platform generally reflects American conservatism in the political spectrum, in contrast to the more "liberal" or "progressive" Democrats." -- Wikipedia.

It was a Republican who freed the slaves, (Lincoln), not a Democrat, and the bigots never forgot that.

Of course, the Democrats have turned that fact on it's head, because it fits much better with their liberal left agenda, but you can look it up.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republi...ited_States%29

And please, check the accuracy of this article! :cool:

Check out one of the major Southern Democrats of the 20th century:
Governor of Alabama George C. Wallace:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Wallace

A real Democrat.

In fact, when even slightly inaccurate information has been posted on Wikipedia as a test of it's self-correcting ability, errors have been shown to be corrected within three hours at maximum. And this is for innocuous minutia.

Here's a link to the Cellar thread where I posted about this in 2006.

A talking head on TV recently attributed the current split between Dems and Repubs
to the civil rights "Voter's Registration" bill of the Johnson administration.

The racially intolerant southern Dems moved to the Republican party,
and the moderate Repubs disappeared or moved into the Democrats

If true, it's an another example of the "law of unintended consequences"

Not the Democrats; Nixon's Southern Strategy turned that fact on its head.

Are you really insinuating that the repubican platform not anti-minority?

I think that it's a legal or technological defense against being accused of copyright infringement. I've seen other reversed videos of TV shows.

Good points. Just a point to make about Republicans and Democrats of Yore. The only thing today's Republicans and Democrats have in common with the 1800's Republicans and Democrats is the name of the party. For a while it seemed they'd traded places ideologically, now, I find it rather tough to separate them at all unless I get out my hairsplitter.

I had been told that YouTube has a scanning algorithm (that of course they will not admit to as it would be proprietary) that can match any uploaded video against a database of copyrighted data, thus weeding out at least a certain number of the copyright violations without the need for a human to view each one. Flip the image, and it no longer matches.

Margaret Gould Stewart discusses it here on TED:
http://www.ted.com/talks/margaret_st...copyright.html

We've had Republicans act like Democrats, but in general:

Republicans want:
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safer, and more controlled borders. We want immigration, but we want LEGAL immigration.

our government to spend only the money that it has, instead of piling up debt, spending money that it doesn't have.

less taxes, and fewer tax loop-holes (U.S. tax code is now 70,000+ pages, and grows ever longer)

less regulation of private business (fanny mae and freddie mac, overseen by Democrats like Barney Frank), caused a huge portion of this housing bust we're now going through. Gov't regulations on bank loans, and allowing derivatives from those notes, also added to the problem.

less subsidies. We still are paying out subsidies to farmers for obsolete programs started before 1940. Paying a farmer NOT to grow on his land is also, generally a bad idea.

require valid ID when you vote - stop voter fraud

require e-verify for a job, to help eliminate easy identity theft, and help prevent illegal immigration.

It's seems our liberal leaders have found a new hate target -- the well off, dare I say "rich".

I'm not sure what the hell they're thinking of, but if you wait for the welfare supported guy or gal to offer you a good paying job, you'll be waiting for a very long time. :rolleyes:

Who else is going to be starting up a business? Hiring new employee's? Buying that $40,000 new tractor/combine to harvest the wheat that you'll be eating later?

Think of what it takes to start up a business of any kind. That's not chump change that makes that happen.

* I spent a few years in the Deep South, when integration was still the law of the land (early 50's). I learned all about Democrats, at that time. I did support Clinton for President, because he was experienced at running things (former Governor), and smart (a former Rhodes Scholar).

Not to speak ill of the dead, but compared to John Kennedy, or FDR, Clinton was a marital saint.

That is a strange addition to the otherwise know facts about a hate group.

Yes, the KKK was a vigilante group. They didn't JUST lynch blacks, but blacks were their most frequently killed victim. For whites, an obvious warning of a burned cross, or a "trip to the woods" for a bit of "learnin'", was generally quite sufficient.

Their efforts in the 50's and 60's, mirrored the deep loss they felt as the wave of civil rights and integration became more of a reality.