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classicman 05-10-2012 11:50 PM

1) What part of that is close?
Obama - 294
Toss - 74
Rom - 170

2) I specifically addressed her since she got all shitty with me.

3) I couldn't possibly be more apathetic about this election.
I'm less inclined to vote for O this time than last and Romney ... ugh I dunno how I could at this point. :vomit:

Ibby 05-11-2012 12:07 AM

If he needs 270 to win, and there are "247 Strong Obama" votes... I'd call that contestable, this far out. Maybe you parse it differently, fine. But I'd call that close enough to worry about. Especially considering the effect money will have on this race.

classicman 05-11-2012 02:50 PM

Obama needs 23 and Mitt needs 100. Mitts been campaigning for 4 YEARS compared to Obama's 4 days... I don't see this as being close. I guess its all about perspective.

infinite monkey 05-11-2012 03:16 PM

Everything is perspective. Even math. ;)

Ibby 05-11-2012 03:38 PM

I guess the difference is between your use of the word "close" and mine of "contestable". Given the distance from the election and the twists, turns, and outside events that could affect the race... I think Mitt hasn't LOST already. There's some conceivable path he could take that would win him the election, against today's odds. That's what I mean by contestable.

morethanpretty 05-11-2012 07:46 PM

I'm confused admittedly. I thought classic meant that obama was gonna be blown out of office. Anyone else read it that way?

classicman 05-11-2012 07:52 PM

whatever.

Romney has virtually no chance whatsoever.

Hes behind by over 120 and there are really only 74 in play.

Do you really understand what has to happen for him to win?
You've got better odds of tw & Merc playing tiddlywinks while having tea on a Sunday.

ETA: Do you even understand how the electoral college works?

morethanpretty 05-11-2012 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by classicman (Post 811256)
whatever.

Romney has virtually no chance whatsoever.

Hes behind by over 120 and there are really only 74 in play.

Do you really understand what has to happen for him to win?
You've got better odds of tw & Merc playing tiddlywinks while having tea on a Sunday.

ETA: Do you even understand how the electoral college works?

Wow, your rudeness was completely uncalled for. I was being a bit sassy but you're being outright mean.
Go take a bath or something to calm down.

And yes I do.

Ibby 05-11-2012 08:05 PM

Of course I understand the electoral effin' college. And I also understand that every single "lean obama" state in that site's ranking - along with Pennsylvania, if the republican voter suppression/electoral splitting measures pass, and Nevada, according to other polling aggregates i've seen - is very much winnable by Romney, with a little luck and a lot of elbow grease (and by elbow grease I mean PAC money). Just because Obama's ahead half a mile into the marathon doesn't mean he's won, or that it's not worth watching.

ETA: are you honestly saying you think there's no way a republican could win VIRGINIA?

classicman 05-11-2012 08:11 PM

That post wasn't directed at you, Ibs.

ETA - But to answer your reply
Pennsylvania - Bwahahahahahaaaaaaaaa
Nevada - highly unlikely.
To use your own phrase - Obama's ahead half a mile with about a 1/4 mile to go.
You're buying into the BS again.

Ibby 05-11-2012 08:13 PM

I retract my umbrage, then, except on MTP's behalf. But my point stands. I still don't think its quite a blowout yet. Once we get into september, october, and the numbers STILL look like they do now - then, it's in the bag. As yet, there's still a race to run.

classicman 05-11-2012 08:37 PM

No problem.
The race, if there ever was one, is over. The left is trying to create something of a contest so their voters don't become complacent.

Ibby 05-11-2012 08:40 PM

Well, okay, if that's how you want to frame it. I'd still call that an actual race, even if it's theirs to lose.

infinite monkey 05-11-2012 09:07 PM

Classic has a point about complacency. Ohio got complacent with obamas win and didn't bother voting for governor two years later! Yoo-hoo! Gotta keep at it people.

Vote early vote often! :lol:

regular.joe 05-11-2012 11:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by classicman (Post 811256)
whatever.

Romney has virtually no chance whatsoever.

Hes behind by over 120 and there are really only 74 in play.

Do you really understand what has to happen for him to win?
You've got better odds of tw & Merc playing tiddlywinks while having tea on a Sunday.

ETA: Do you even understand how the electoral college works?


Hey, it could happen! On another note, the vote in NC only proves that there are more conservative christians who vote living in NC then not. What is scary is that a religious agenda is now part of a state constitution.


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