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piercehawkeye45 01-31-2012 12:27 AM

Palin, Limbaugh, and others have endorsed Gingrich. I feel he will go down swinging.

Why they chose him over Santorum is beyond me...

tw 01-31-2012 01:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by classicman (Post 791696)
Almost everything you own and use for personal or investment purposes is a capital asset.

When I eat pâté, that is a capital gain. In the bathroom, it is a capital loss. Can I write that off?

Now I will need receipts. Paperwork.

classicman 01-31-2012 09:10 AM

Cute - tw. By the way does the w stand for whiner?

I guess the next 40,000 words of my post should include a few veiled insults, a mental midget reference,
the 85% problems line, 1/2 dozen mission accomplished's, innovation, some non-emotional thinking reference, :borg:
a couple baseless claims of being a moderate and a few George Jr's thrown in for good measure
Oh my ... I almost forgot the bean counters and MBA's.

infinite monkey 01-31-2012 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tw (Post 791827)
When I eat pâté, that is a capital gain. In the bathroom, it is a capital loss. Can I write that off?

Now I will need receipts. Paperwork.

Go with Charmin. The bears say it leaves nothing behind.

tw 01-31-2012 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by infinite monkey (Post 791902)
Go with Charmin. The bears say it leaves nothing behind.

If bears use Charmin, then what do the bulls use? Or is there no such thing as a bullshitter?

infinite monkey 01-31-2012 10:52 AM

Bulls use pinecones.

Many parts are edible (Bull Gibbons)

Lamplighter 01-31-2012 02:07 PM

TV talking heads are poking fun at Gingrich's failing campaign in FL.

"The trouble with Romney is that he brings out the worst in Gingrich"

Lamplighter 01-31-2012 08:05 PM

I don't have a boob in this fight, but... this is so short=sighted

It's a longer article, but worth reading.

NY Times
By PAM BELLUCK
Published: January 31, 2012
Cancer Group Halts Financing to Planned Parenthood
Quote:

In a decision that is inflaming passions on both sides of the abortion debate,
the world’s largest breast cancer organization, Susan G. Komen for the Cure,
is cutting off its financing of breast cancer screening and education programs
run by Planned Parenthood affiliates
.

The move will halt financing to 19 of Planned Parenthood’s 83 affiliates,
which received nearly $700,000 from the Komen foundation last year
and have been receiving similar grants since at least 2005.
<snip>
Ms. Richards said all of Planned Parenthood’s affiliates provided around 770,000 women
with breast examinations and paid for mammograms and ultrasounds for those
who needed and could not afford further diagnostic services.


She said she received the news from the Komen foundation in late December
and had requested a meeting with officials there to discuss the matter but was rebuffed.
<snip>
Anti-abortion advocates and Web sites have criticized the Komen foundation’s
financing of Planned Parenthood for years. And in December, LifeWay Christian Resources,
which is owned by the Southern Baptist Convention, said it was recalling
a pink Bible it was selling at Walmart and other stores because a dollar per copy
was going to the Komen foundation and the foundation supported Planned Parenthood.
<snip>
Once again it is men (and some women) trying to control women's bodies. :mad2:

ZenGum 01-31-2012 09:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45 (Post 791825)
Palin, Limbaugh, and others have endorsed Gingrich. I feel he will go down swinging.

Why they chose him over Santorum is beyond me...

So, Gingrich is a swinger who goes down, but doesn't have Santorum all over him, but has been turned into a Newt. Good, I'm glad we cleared that up.

Lamplighter 02-03-2012 02:52 PM

The news media are pouncing on Romney in his failed
attempt to express his concern for the middle class.
Unfortunately, this stone in the stone soup is having
troubles even getting out of his own troubles.
It's reminiscent of Gerald Ford trying to explain SNL.

NY Times
By PAUL KRUGMAN (Op Ed)
Published: February 2, 2012

Romney Isn’t Concerned
Quote:

Quote:

<snip>“I’m not concerned about the very poor. We have a safety net there.”<snip>
Faced with criticism, the candidate has claimed that he didn’t mean what
he seemed to mean, and that his words were taken out of context.
But he quite clearly did mean what he said.
And the more context you give to his statement, the worse it gets.<snip>

On Jan. 22, he asserted that safety-net programs
— yes, he specifically used that term — have “massive overhead,”
and that because of the cost of a huge bureaucracy
“very little of the money that’s actually needed by those that really need help,
those that can’t care for themselves, actually reaches them.

But the dishonesty of his initial claim aside, how could a candidate declare
that safety-net programs do no good and declare only 10 days later that
those programs take such good care of the poor that he feels no concern for their welfare?

Specifically, the candidate has endorsed Representative Paul Ryan’s plan
for drastic cuts in federal spending — with almost two-thirds of the proposed spending cuts
coming at the expense of low-income Americans.

To the extent that Mr. Romney has differentiated his position from the Ryan plan,
it is in the direction of even harsher cuts for the poor;
his Medicaid proposal appears to involve a 40 percent reduction
in financing compared with current law.
And besides all that:

Yesterday, Romney accepted the endorsement of The Donald.
Why would Mitt do that ? He could have made more points by
rejecting it, or at least ignoring it. Maybe he just wanted to piss off The Newt again.

glatt 02-03-2012 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lamplighter (Post 792815)
It's reminiscent of Gerald Ford trying to explain SNL.

I remember Chevy Chase used to fall down a lot when impersonating Ford. But I don't remember Ford ever talking about SNL. What are you talking about?

infinite monkey 02-03-2012 03:38 PM

There was probably a video back in the glory days of youtube. :mad:

Lamplighter 02-03-2012 06:32 PM

@Glatt: I have this mental image of Ford on SNL doing a "let me explain myself" skit, and have not found it via Google.
The closest I've come is not the same, but this link is Chevy Chase doing Ford along the same lines.

Lamplighter 02-12-2012 09:09 PM

I don't think I've ever agreed with Friedman before, but this time he has a unique idea !!!

Chron.com
THOMAS L. FRIEDMAN
February 12, 2012


Friedman: Few answers from today's GOP

Quote:

Watching the Republican Party struggling to agree on a presidential candidate,
one wonders whether the GOP shouldn't just sit this election out - just give 2012 a pass.

You know how in Scrabble sometimes you look at your seven letters and you've got only vowels that spell nothing?
What do you do? You go back to the pile. You throw your letters back and hope to pick up better ones to work with.
That's what Republican primary voters seem to be doing.
They just keep going back to the pile but still coming up with only vowels that spell nothing.

There's a reason for that: Their pile is out of date.
The party has let itself become the captive of conflicting ideological bases:
anti-abortion advocates, anti-immigration activists, social conservatives worried
about the sanctity of marriage, libertarians who want to shrink government,
and anti-tax advocates who want to drown government in a bathtub.

Sorry, but you can't address the great challenges America faces today with that incoherent mix of hardened positions.
I've argued that maybe we need a third party to break open our political system.
But that's a long shot. What we definitely and urgently need is a second party
- a coherent Republican opposition that is offering constructive conservative proposals
on the key issues and is ready for strategic compromises to advance its interests and those of the country.

Without that, the best of the Democrats - who have been willing to compromise
- have no partners and the worst have a free pass for their own magical thinking.
Since such a transformed Republican Party is highly unlikely,
maybe the best thing would be for it to get crushed in this election and forced into a fundamental rethink.

Because when I look at America's three greatest challenges today,
I don't see the Republican candidates offering realistic answers to any of them.<snip>

Until the GOP stops being radical and returns to being conservative,
it won't provide what the country needs most now - competition -
competition with Democrats on the issues that will determine whether we thrive in the 21st century.
We need to hear conservative fiscal policies, energy policies, immigration policies
and public-private partnership concepts - not radical ones.

Would somebody please restore our second party?
The country is starved for a grown-up debate.


classicman 02-12-2012 09:15 PM

Agreed. Those of us in the middle are sure as hell sick of the one sided story.


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