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xoxoxoBruce 05-01-2015 04:19 PM

Here's a list of some of the other 89 people the cops killed this MONTH.
I'm sure some must have been justified.

Update: This list says 101 for April.

DanaC 05-01-2015 04:24 PM

"Whatever the apparent cause of any riots may be, the real one is always want of happiness. It shows that something is wrong in the system of government that injures the felicity by which society is to be preserved." Thomas Paine

DanaC 05-01-2015 04:29 PM


Lamplighter 05-01-2015 07:40 PM

Freddie Gray death ruled homicide; officers charged
CNN - Michael Pearson, Steve Almasy and Ben Brumfield, CNN
Updated 8:16 PM ET, Fri May 1, 2015

Sure didn't see that coming... at all, or so quickly !


:jail:

Lamplighter 05-02-2015 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Gravdigr (Post 927159)
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I wonder why black people do not riot when Boko Harem kidnaps 100 or so black children.
...

Maybe it just takes time, resources, and authority...

Nigerian military: 234 more females rescued from Boko Haram
Associated Press | May 2, 2015
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Nigeria's military rescued 234 more girls and women from a Boko Haram forest
stronghold in the country's northeast, an announcement on social media said Saturday.

More than 677 females have been declared rescued this week.

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Lamplighter 05-02-2015 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Lamplighter (Post 927273)
Freddie Gray death ruled homicide; officers charged
CNN - Michael Pearson, Steve Almasy and Ben Brumfield, CNN
Updated 8:16 PM ET, Fri May 1, 2015

Sure didn't see that coming... at all, or so quickly !

The press and the Baltimore Police Union are trying to discredit these indictments as "Rush to Justice".

But the State's Attorney has publicly discussed her independent use
of State Police investigators (separate from the Baltimore Police Dept)
starting the day after the death of Freddie Gray, and that she waited
for the Baltimore Police Dept and the Pathologist's reports before
issuing the indictments.

So, her indictments are independent- and time-separated
from whatever went on during the city's investigations and report.

Certainly she was elected recently by significant support from the Black community.
But she has the credibility to completely turn around what was a riot/demonstration
against the Baltimore police into peaceful and welcome community supported demonstration.

xoxoxoBruce 05-02-2015 05:00 PM

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And here they are.
But but but half of them are black!
That's why I've been saying, the problem is not white, the problem is not black, the problem is BLUE.

sexobon 05-02-2015 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 927364)
... That's why I've been saying, the problem is not white, the problem is not black, the problem is BLUE.

That seems a little too black & white.

tw 05-02-2015 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 927364)
That's why I've been saying, the problem is not white, the problem is not black, the problem is BLUE.

Racism was never about (limited to) color of skin. Racism has always been about judging someone only on a first impression.

sexobon 05-02-2015 11:28 PM

Those people should never have judged the police officers involved on only their first impression. They should have waited for the facts to emerge as the State's Attorney did.

tw 05-03-2015 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by sexobon (Post 927394)
They should have waited for the facts to emerge as the State's Attorney did.

That completely ignored the research. An NPR reporter participated in tests. He discovered he was quickest to draw and fire his weapon on a young black man. More interesting is that NPR reporter is black.

Emotion in a human brain creates that attitude. We can speculate why without facts. Some here will do that. Relevant is why all colors are quicker to assume a black man is a greater threat. That requires research and training. But it demonstrates what racism really is: judgement only on first impressions. Making a decision based in emotions and not on actual facts.

sexobon 05-03-2015 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by tw (Post 927391)
... Racism has always been about judging someone only on a first impression. ...

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Originally Posted by tw (Post 927421)
... But it demonstrates what racism really is: judgement only on first impressions. ...

There's an echo in this thread.

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Originally Posted by tw (Post 927421)
... Relevant is why all colors are quicker to assume a black man is a greater threat. ...

That's an easy one based entirely on factual information and the logical processing of that information into useful intelligence. Someday I'll have to explain the process to you in a way that you can understand; but, that's for another thread.

tw 05-03-2015 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by sexobon (Post 927433)
Someday I'll have to explain the process to you in a way that you can understand; but, that's for another thread.

Racism is not posting when one does not know and has nothing to say. What extremist would post anyway?

sexobon 05-03-2015 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by tw (Post 927421)
... But it demonstrates what racism really is: judgement only on first impressions. ...

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Originally Posted by tw (Post 927448)
Racism is not posting when one does not know and has nothing to say. ...

Awwww, there you go changing the definitions of words again. You do that when someone else has facts that you don't have. You just deny the existence of any facts that you're not aware of. It's one of your challenges. Most moderates don't have that problem; but, whacko moderates do. I'm so sorry.

*Note to self: don't upset tw by inferring future knowledge.*

Lamplighter 05-04-2015 08:25 AM

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This study seems destined to have a big impact on social policies at the federal level in the future.

Baltimore is mentioned at several places in this article, at the bottom of the heap across the country.

An Atlas of Upward Mobility Shows Paths Out of Poverty
NY Times - David Leonhardt, Amanda Cox and Claire Cain Miller - MAY 4, 2015

Quote:

In the wake of the Los Angeles riots more than 20 years ago,
Congress created an anti-poverty experiment called Moving to Opportunity.
It gave vouchers to help poor families move to better neighborhoods and
awarded them on a random basis, so researchers could study the effects.

The results were deeply disappointing. Parents who received the vouchers
did not seem to earn more in later years than otherwise similar adults,
and children did not seem to do better in school.
The program’s apparent failure has haunted social scientists and policy makers,
making poverty seem all the more intractable.

Now, however, a large new study is about to overturn the findings of Moving to Opportunity.

Based on the earnings records of millions of families that moved with children,
it finds that poor children who grow up in some cities and towns have sharply better odds
of escaping poverty than similar poor children elsewhere.
One of the expected changes has to do with giving families with small children
a higher priority on waiting lists for housing in better communities, which
is the exact opposite of the current policy.


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