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BigV 09-10-2008 02:44 PM

Sarah Palin
 
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Have I missed anything?

FFS people, the sizzle to steak ratio is off the freakin scale!! What's the difference between a pitbull with lipstick and a smokescreen? -- Nothing.

There is an enormous campaign underway right now to persuade people to act and this campaign has two main sides in opposition. The desired action is to help elect the President and Vice President. Each side of this spectacle is striving mightily to **PERSUADE** the people. These attempts to persuade use these methods (positive and negative):

Logos -- relying upon reasoning and logical consistency of the argument.

Ethos -- relying upon the credibility of the speaker.

Pathos -- relying upon the emotional response of the listener.

These are all used, sometimes together, and each of use (save Spock) responds to all methods, but not equally. I tend to be persuaded most effectively by the logos method. But that is my inclination, not an absolute limitation. I see all kinds of messages being delivered in this season. I get most frustrated when I see misrepresentation, inconsistency, and illogic.

I would rate the current message from Governor Palin this way:

Logos--zero. There has been *no* communication from her, save her introductory speech, from which any analysis of her thoughts can be made. Every day she remains mute she loses credibility (ethos) with me; she's already at zero for content.

Ethos--four. I believe her words and actions, her record, shows some consistency, but she's taken a severe blow to her credibility when I compare her (few) statements to (what I've been able to discern at this point as) the facts.

Pathos--nine. She's a strongly empathetic and charismatic figure. I give her high marks for the power of her message, but not for its effectiveness at persuading me. I hear the potent zingers in her speeches, but because of the low ethos and lower logos weights she carries with me, the zing has no sting.

Frankly I'm sick of hearing so much nothing about her.

Flint 09-10-2008 02:46 PM

I like your paraphrase of the media coverage.

Does the GOP expect to carry "nothing" to the White House?

Trilby 09-10-2008 02:48 PM

They haven't put the chip in her neck yet.

Undertoad 09-10-2008 02:56 PM

Logos 15%
Ethos 20%
Pathos 75%

That's roughly about the weight people give each one when making decisions.

The long wait before she goes in front of the press is totally calculated political strategy.

Flint 09-10-2008 02:56 PM

Cite?

Not that I disagree.

Undertoad 09-10-2008 03:02 PM

Instead of a cite, I point to... television commercials.

That's what they appeal to, to general audiences.

Flint 09-10-2008 03:03 PM

Gotcha.

Idiocracy.

BigV 09-10-2008 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Undertoad (Post 482908)
Logos 15%
Ethos 20%
Pathos 75%

That's roughly about the weight people give each one when making decisions.

The long wait before she goes in front of the press is totally calculated political strategy.

I think your rankings are correct too, but I would be willing to have more conversation about the actual values.

If by "totally calculated political strategy" you mean a "craven pandering attempt at misdirection by bulking up on pathos due to a shameful deficiency of logos", then I would be inclined to agree with you.

Flint 09-10-2008 03:06 PM

I love snarky if-then statements.

BigV 09-10-2008 03:08 PM

Fuck, this whole thread is making me sad.

I have resisted seeing Idiocracy. I'm afraid the people around me laughing at its comedy won't understand my crying at its tragedy.

This is no goddamned way to run a railroad.

Clodfobble 09-10-2008 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Undertoad
Logos 15%
Ethos 20%
Pathos 75%

That's 110%...

Undertoad 09-10-2008 06:05 PM

I always give 110%.

classicman 09-10-2008 11:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigV (Post 482898)
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Flint 09-11-2008 10:51 AM

Sarah Palin action figure.

sweetwater 09-11-2008 03:16 PM

Republican Party provides funds to the Democrats via Heart's "Barracuda"

Palin and her people continue to use the song despite Heart's displeasure.

Quote:

...the song’s co-writer, Roger Fisher (who dated Nancy back in the day), has come up with an ingenious plan to cope with the problem. Fisher is a strong supporter of the Democrats, and has decided to donate some of the royalties from “Barracuda” to Barack Obama. "With my contribution to Obama's campaign, the Republicans are now supporting Obama," he said.


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