Hezbollah night-vision gear manufactured in Britain
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...NGK9KLVH41.DTL
The war on drugs and war on terror collide again. The UN comes down in favor of do whatever the fuck you like and we'll give it cover of legitimacy. Fuck the UN. Quote:
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Yeah well, we're fairly annoyed with this :
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I swear to fucking god, who, for one minute, thinks you can give someone any kind of technology and expect them to use it for just the things you want them to?
"I'm shocked to discover gambling in this establishment." If people had any moral scruples, I doubt there'd be a war. In the meantime, why act shocked when people start shooting at you with guns that they were asked not to use when they were purchased? There are a lot of good excuses, but "you were asked not to use your whopping expensive, highly regulated night vision goggles" isn't one of them. If I was at war with someone, (for the record I am not) I'd use everything in my arsenal to conquer my adversary. Maybe especially more so if you asked me not to. But then, I'm just a wee bit hot and tired and sticky right now. |
Nightvision goggles arrive with one side of this conflict......bombs are sent to the other. I find it very difficult to be outraged about the nightvision goggles.
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America sent bombs to Israel via Britain. Britain made the night-vision goggles which have ended up in hizb'alla's possession.
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But the UN sent the NV gear to Iran. They're supposed to be supervising the ceasefire. |
This sort of situation really, really infuriates me. This is slightly out of context but on topic - has anyone seen the film No Man's Land? It's a film set during the Bosnian conflict of the early 90s; it's brilliant and i thoroughly recommend it. Anyway, during this film (i won't give anything away) a soldier comes across one of the enemy's equipment crates. In this area he finds a number of undeployed mines which he appears ecstactic about; not because they are mines, but for the fact that inscribed into the base is, "Made in E.U.".
When I first saw this film, I knew very little about the arms trade, but to this day the circumstance of sending in peacekeepers to prevent civilians, paramilitants and soldiers for dying from exposure to Western equipment confounds me as blatant failure of logic for the bodies that oversee the arms trade. I know it's not quite as simple as, "The UK (and others) are only going to permit the construction of arms for national use, not for export" due to the usual economy ( see http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/5262120.stm), politics and even potential moral obligation, but surely there must be a way? Would it be anti-democratic to not allow sales (for example) of UK produced weapons outside of the commonwealth or the EU? :confused: Sigh... there's no easy answer to a situation like this I guess. |
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People who intend evil will find weapons or make them. I guess somebody had to sub for the Russians, who got caught supplying NVG to Saddam. But then apparently the Russians are also supplying Hezbollah with missles through Iran and Syria.
But when the UN providing Iran with dual-use military equipment, it's either naive or disingenuous to expect them to supervise a ceasefire and disarm Hezbullah. They didn't follow through on what was in the last resolution, why would they do it on this one? It's the usual shell-game... |
Frankly, I'd love it if every industrialized nation on earth kept their military equipment strictly to themselves. You don't need an modern industrial base to create a military force anymore. Just buy, beg or steal what you need off the bloated world arms market. If you're on the right side we'll even give them away to you. Sure would make wars a lot harder to wage in the Third World if there wasn't a huge surplus pool of AK-47s and RPGs and other toys floating about.
Needless to say. Too late now. |
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Look, I'm weary of the moral equivalance spiel. Israel is trying to defend itself against a militia in civilian camoflage, puppets of Syria and Iran, who has sworn to wipe them off the face of the planet. When they try to do this, the liberals of the world rise up in unison Greek chorus about how awful it is. How long can you expect them to turn the other cheek and be good sports about this? Do you beleive Israel has a right to exist at all? Because clearly this won't stop until Iran is satisfied, and they've stated what they want quite plainly. If you just want to see them overrun, be honest enough to say so openly. When someone states that they intend to kill you, you would be wise to believe them. |
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Yes, I see them as an equivalence. No that does not mean I think Israel should be destroyed. Much of what is said relating to the 'total destruction' of Israel is empty rhetoric. Israel is far too powerful and well armed for Hez'bollah to do more than graze their edges. As indeed has been seen in this recent conflict. Meanwhile, Israel has launched such a devastation on the Lebanon that it's hard not to see it in terms of 'collective punishment'. As I said earlier, weapons are being sent to both sides of this conflict. |
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