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TheMercenary 08-06-2009 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Queen of the Ryche (Post 586317)
^Came here to say this.
Got sucked into the Redux/Merc banter. Wow.
From the few pages I read, I don't see a whole lot of political discussion - more of an argument about whose newspapers/websites/preiodicals are more right. I was hoping for "I agree with the WSJ/AARP/insert-article's-publisher-here because..." Not that I consider myself at all competent to defend my political bent as eloquently as I would like, but now I leave disenchanted.

Carry on.

Eh. Not all that important. I would be glad to discuss anything with you.

I am not really interested in political banter with Redux. He thinks he is correct. I think I am correct. It has never gone anywhere past that when you drill down to it.

Most of my posts of articles usually are of the "I found this an interesting read" nature. No one wants to comment on the articles, no biggy.

dar512 08-06-2009 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 586346)
He thinks he is correct. I think I am correct. It has never gone anywhere past that when you drill down to it.

And that's 99% of the political forum.

TheMercenary 08-06-2009 01:28 PM

I don't think it always has to be that way. But what eva...

Shawnee123 08-06-2009 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 586360)
I don't think it always has to be that way. But what eva...

This article refutes that statement:

www.italwayshastobethatway.com

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It does, indeed, always have to be that way.


:lol:

TheMercenary 08-06-2009 01:45 PM

Ok, this is pretty typical of a way to stiffle discussion and demonize people you disagree with. Hey, didn't the Dems do that to the Repubs when they were in charge? hmmmmm... let me check on that.

Pelosi: Town Hall Protesters Are "Carrying Swastikas"

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/vid...swastikas.html

Shawnee123 08-06-2009 01:58 PM

This article refutes that statement:

www.youareabrokenrecord.com
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You are a broken record.

TheMercenary 08-06-2009 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Happy Monkey (Post 586335)
Not to mention that the first line in his quote asked his question he asked it.

I think they should ride like everyone else.

http://kleinosky.com/blog/b_openseating1.jpg

TheMercenary 08-06-2009 03:01 PM

http://www.tibpriors.org/images/89/snoozin.jpg

Queen of the Ryche 08-06-2009 03:49 PM

I'm cool with Merc posting articles he finds interesting. I'm cool with both parties having their own opinion of what's right. Guess I was expecting more debate over the issues at hand rather than over who's righter. No biggy.

And yes, let Congress hang from a net too. Or make them pay full fare on one of our failing airlines.

Redux 08-06-2009 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Queen of the Ryche (Post 586384)

And yes, let Congress hang from a net too. Or make them pay full fare on one of our failing airlines.

By the very nature of being in the Line of Presidential Succession, every Cabinet secretary and the top leaders of the House and Senate are afforded levels of security and protection beyond the norm.

The same applies for the Joint Chiefs and top military officials and members of Congress on official business when traveling abroad.

I have no problem with those folks having that level of security when conducting the nation's business.

Queen of the Ryche 08-06-2009 04:02 PM

Me neither, but did they have to spend $200 million on new jets? Was there something wrong with the existing ones? Or their bulletproof limos for more local trips?

Personally, if I saw a Congressman on a regular flight with his fair share of security, I would have much more respect for him. And how many whack jobs are aiming at Congressmen? And how are they going to get past security to whack them on a public flight? IMHO, I don't think it's about security, I feel it's about entitlement, which pisses me off.

TheMercenary 08-06-2009 04:02 PM

Can't get more secure than riding in the back of an Air Force C-130 (with nominal temperature control and requiring the use of ear plugs :D).

Redux 08-06-2009 04:04 PM

IMO, this is marginally more of an issue than bitching about the cost to taxpayers of the Obama's taking a weekend trip to NYC...but not by much.

In both cases, the Secret Service has alot to say about minimum security levels for such officials.

TheMercenary 08-06-2009 04:12 PM

Many Congress people ride to and from work each day and few have any security. The need for custom jets is not warranted. Esp in this time of spend, spend, spend. They need to take a back seat to their own needs.

Redux 08-06-2009 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 586390)
Many Congress people ride to and from work each day and few have any security. The need for custom jets is not warranted. Esp in this time of spend, spend, spend. They need to take a back seat to their own needs.

Members of Congress have no authorization to use these jets for commuting to and from work, but solely when acting on Congressional business, particularly when traveling abroad.

The exception is Pelosi, who is second in line to the presidency...scary, huh?


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