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Big Sarge 07-26-2015 01:59 PM

2016 Election
 
I'm concerned about gun rights, veterans affairs, and national defense. Who would be my best choice in next year's election?

Lamplighter 07-26-2015 02:04 PM

Hillary, of course !

Pamela 07-26-2015 07:53 PM

Hold your horses a while and see what the field looks like closer to election day.
Too many choices at present.

infinite monkey 07-26-2015 08:03 PM

Guv Kasich threw his hat into the ring. Even Democrat ohioanz rather like the guy.

xoxoxoBruce 07-26-2015 08:22 PM

He just jacked up his speech fee. I honestly believe that' why half of the run.

Griff 07-27-2015 06:29 AM

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Originally Posted by infinite monkey (Post 934596)
Guv Kasich threw his hat into the ring. Even Democrat ohioanz rather like the guy.

I was going to ask about him. Any chance he's not a neo-con idiot when it comes to foreign affairs?

I'm leaning Sanders even though I'll have to register Democrat temporarily as PA is a closed primary state. Why Sanders? He sees the problems clearly and hasn't been a shape shifter. I'm starting to think that it takes someone who believes in government to make government work. It's time for the pendulum to swing back.

Sanders is Aces on veteran's affairs. He is "okay" on gun rights. If you believe continuous warfare in the mid-east = secure America you will have a problem with him.

tw 07-27-2015 10:41 AM

Ignore them all. Nothing relevant will happen until after the 2016 Super bowl. Apparent only then is who is relevant. Anyone reporting on presidential candidates now is playing us all as ignorant or naive. How many times must Donald Trump speak before reality becomes obvious.

It is currently impossible to answer Big Sarge's question. How many hundred years of history made that obvious?

xoxoxoBruce 07-27-2015 10:56 AM

Bloomberg says...

http://cellar.org/2015/campaign money.jpg

However NPR reminds us...
Quote:

Jeb Bush's presidential campaign got a nice fundraising haul last quarter, $11.5 million. But that's piddling compared to the $103 million his Super PAC pulled in, thanks to unlimited contributions.

TED CRUZ: The super PAC that's supporting us - we can't coordinate with them, but they announced publicly that they have already raised over $37 million in the bank.

glatt 07-27-2015 11:01 AM

That's a lot of fucking ads I'm going to have to endure, living in battleground Virginia. It's looking like Bush v. Clinton. Just shoot me.

xoxoxoBruce 07-27-2015 11:21 AM

$4.4 Billion on TV ads is the estimate.

Griff 07-28-2015 06:05 AM

We'll all have to give up tv for a little while. I saw that at present Hillary loses to Trump. She caps at 46% I doubt she goes any higher, sketchy ethics and a neo-con foreign policy won't generate much excitement. Hillary is good on women's issues and nothing else. Sanders beats Trump one to one but doesn't beat Hillary yet. Looks like an easy march for BushIII what a goddamn nightmare.

glatt 07-28-2015 07:41 AM

I like Sanders on the positions, but can he run the country? Is he executive material?

xoxoxoBruce 07-28-2015 11:38 AM

He can probably run this country, but not other countries. Hmm... maybe that's a good thing. :yesnod:

Griff 07-28-2015 07:22 PM

For what its worth he was a mayor. The bar is set pretty low for executive competence based on the last few administrations. People seem to trust him at the bargaining table which isn't an attribute we've seen in a while.

I too would prefer someone focused on this country.

Big Sarge 08-05-2015 12:22 PM

I hope Biden throws his hat in the ring.


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