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Urbane Guerrilla 09-25-2019 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by glatt (Post 1037559)
I guess when PG&E burns down the town of Paridise CA, those customers can just express their displeasure by switching to another power company.

When will it occur to you this is increasingly becoming an option -- especially with electricity?

I think it would be more difficult for the municipal waterworks -- at present.

xoxoxoBruce 09-25-2019 12:14 AM

He didn't even hear it go over his head, glatt. :rolleyes:

Urbane Guerrilla 09-25-2019 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Flint (Post 1037145)
Virtually all of our beloved tax dollars are going to obscene corporate welfare, currently. We should have billions of dollars just "laying around" if it wasn't being funneled directly into offshore tax havens and stock buybacks. The constitution defines the government's taxation powers-- and we're doing the COLLECTING part, we just aren't using the money for the "general welfare" of the PEOPLE who are getting taxed. It's really not radical to suggest evaluating where our tax dollars are being spent.

There's Our Man Flint... world-class money manager, you betcha. Just ask him. But avoid carbonated beverages during his reply -- that's the painful kind of Coke snorting.

What the socialists who resent anyone actually, you know, using money management to engender, aye create wealth fall down is: their answer to it is to centrally plan the money flow. There are people reading this post who don't understand how big an error that is. The Central Plan of course features an idea that "You're too successful, too rich," and this is the rationale for confiscating that money and alleging you're handing it over to some group you favor better.

And they won't get shit done with it, in part because if they did, you'd notice they were profiting and you'd rape the profits away. Under those circumstances, their motivation to do well sags.

Is there any benefit from central-planning anything large? Why, there is, yes. The benefit stops among the planners themselves. Particularly once they make themselves exempt from the plan; the benefit trebles and quadruples.

Urbane Guerrilla 09-25-2019 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 1039019)
He didn't even hear it go over his head, glatt. :rolleyes:

How many times do you want to be wrong tonight, Bruce? Go to bed.

xoxoxoBruce 09-25-2019 12:36 AM

Oh, you just chose to ignore it. Figures.

tw 09-25-2019 09:20 AM

Who has he not yet attacked - besides his god The Don.

Griff 09-25-2019 09:34 AM

Re: Impeachment. This is sounding completely damning. Pelosi may have no choice about impeachment. I didn't want the Trumpbase fired up for fear of this country being unable to reunite but Trump's behavior seems to have tied everyone's hands. We are fucked.

henry quirk 09-25-2019 09:57 AM

Impeachment
 
They, Democrats (i.e. commies [dupes, sympathizers, & card carriers]) should pursue it zealously: ensure another four years for my employee.

henry quirk 09-25-2019 10:24 AM

and while they're impeachin' Trump mebbe they wanna do sumthin' about this...
 
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...en-than-trump/

Griff 09-25-2019 12:26 PM

Trump appears to be the perfect combination of trolling and corruption. Believing everyone to be corrupt, his supporters will stick with their guy. This might just get the chaos Henry so badly desires. Little secret, we're more likely to get more authoritarian government left and right than some anarcho-capitalist Nirvana.

/gut response

henry quirk 09-25-2019 01:12 PM

"Trump appears to be the perfect combination of trolling and corruption."

Trolling, yeah; but where's the corruption? I keep hearin' how awful he is but nobody ponies up actual evidence.

Where's the beef?

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"This might just get the chaos Henry so badly desires"

I've had that since '16: lovin' it.

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"Little secret, we're more likely to get more authoritarian government left and right..."

If the Left wins, absolutely.

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"...than some anarcho-capitalist Nirvana."

Where did I claim a nightwatchman proxyhood would be nirvana? If I haven't already said it in this place, let me say it now: life in a minarchy would be harder simply cuz a whole whack of folks who don't wanna take care of themselves would have to (or get themselves to a charity).

For me: life would be pretty much what it is now ('cept I wouldn't be considered a criminal).

and: minarchy and ancap aren't the same thing at all

tw 09-25-2019 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Griff (Post 1039056)
Little secret, we're more likely to get more authoritarian government left and right than some anarcho-capitalist Nirvana.

It is how Hitler came to power.

Lies and insults appeal to those using the mind of a child (also called the reptilian brain).

henry quirk 09-25-2019 06:20 PM

the reptilian brain
 
:love:

sexobon 09-25-2019 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Griff (Post 1039046)
Re: Impeachment. This is sounding completely damning. Pelosi may have no choice about impeachment. I didn't want the Trumpbase fired up for fear of this country being unable to reunite but Trump's behavior seems to have tied everyone's hands. We are fucked.

Allegations always sound completely damning. Mueller proved how easily they can fall short.
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Originally Posted by henry quirk (Post 1039050)
They, Democrats (i.e. commies [dupes, sympathizers, & card carriers]) should pursue it zealously: ensure another four years for my employee.

Pelosi was previously reluctant to pursue impeachment despite all of the "completely damning" allegations circulating before. She knew an impeachment attempt could backfire. A political phone call by Trump, to the Ukrainian leader, doesn't change that: it's a red herring. What's changed is now that Pelosi has seen the presidential candidates on the national stage, she realizes that the Democratic presidential hopefuls are hopeless and she has nothing to lose by going for broke and pursuing impeachment even if it does backfire. If the House sends articles of impeachment to the Senate, the Senate will kill it anyway. That puts Trump in a position to say to Pelosi - Do you feel lucky, punk?

henry quirk 09-26-2019 10:09 AM

She knew an impeachment attempt could backfire.
 
My thinkin': with the face of the party bein' people like A. Cortez, Nancy & Adam (and others) know they're bein' left behind, know come next election they got a diminishing chance of keepin' what they got.

Impeaching Trump is a 'I got nuthin' to lose' move.

If impeachment fails: 'meh, I'm probably not gettin' rehired anyway. But -- if the planets align just right, if the gods smile down -- mebbe we might oust Trump before 20, a big feather in my cap.'

It's a 'damned for sure if we do nuthin', mebbe escaping the flames if we do sumthin'' strategy.

I think Nancy, Adam (and others) are doomed, damned, done in, & (soon to be) dumped.


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