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Griff 03-15-2020 11:24 AM

I'm wondering if people get it now that Yang is out of the race and we're social distancing?

Griff 03-15-2020 11:30 AM

So Pete is starting to worry that Trump could pull a Natanyahu using the health / economic crisis to save his own political ass...

sexobon 03-15-2020 01:28 PM

Corona King says: We need those disease ridden airplanes to crash and burn, maybe taking out some disease ridden dense population centers in the process, and sink those disease ridden cruise ships. Notice there never seems to be any terrorists around when you need them.

tw 03-15-2020 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Flint (Post 1048441)
Firstly, the Republicans have talked themselves into a corner, by calling every Democrat a “Socialist” for the last 20 years. I understand why they do it—because decrying “big government” puts money in their pocket*. But, really, the mis-labelling is gratuitous at this point—they already got their huge tax cuts**

How might this have been done better? The soundbite has been successful for decades. But, like any soundbite, it must change with age. How might that soundbite have changed to keep ahead of the times?

sexobon 03-15-2020 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by tw (Post 1048498)
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Originally Posted by Flint (Post 1048441)
Firstly, the Republicans have talked themselves into a corner, by calling every Democrat a “Socialist” for the last 20 years. I understand why they do it—because decrying “big government” puts money in their pocket*. But, really, the mis-labelling is gratuitous at this point—they already got their huge tax cuts**

How might this have been done better? The soundbite has been successful for decades. But, like any soundbite, it must change with age. How might that soundbite have changed to keep ahead of the times? Obviously, the change would (must) be subtle. Or was a change attempted?


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Originally Posted by tw (Post 1048549)
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Originally Posted by Flint (Post 1048441)
Firstly, the Republicans have talked themselves into a corner, by calling every Democrat a “Socialist” for the last 20 years. I understand why they do it—because decrying “big government” puts money in their pocket*. But, really, the mis-labelling is gratuitous at this point—they already got their huge tax cuts**

How might this have been done better? The soundbite has been successful for decades. But, like any soundbite, it must change with age. How might that soundbite have changed to keep ahead of the times?


Nag, nag, nag.

tw 03-15-2020 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by sexobon (Post 1048550)
Nag, nag, nag.

Only an extremist has opinions and cannot even say why.

Meanwhile, the original statement were interesting. But only if we know why.

Flint 03-15-2020 06:57 PM

It was a self-explanatory observation.
The Republicans have overused a catchphrase and consequently robbed it of any substantive meaning, while desensitizing their target audience to the claim itself.

I don't care how they could have improved on it, I'm not a political strategist or a Republican.

It seems like you have something else you'd like to add, so go ahead, I'm not stopping you.

sexobon 03-15-2020 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by tw (Post 1048556)
Only an extremist has opinions and cannot even say why. ...

It sufficed to say why not.

xoxoxoBruce 03-19-2020 11:59 PM

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During the Spanish Flu they mobilized, partly because we had a large standing army, but they knew a hundred years later we'd have flying cars.

Griff 03-20-2020 07:26 AM

Bipartisanship!

Trump and Cuomo did some good work together this week.

Burr and Feinstein got together and robbed the stock market.

Undertoad 03-20-2020 09:27 AM

This Twitter thread compiles the media and scientific reaction to Trump's 1/31 announcement announcement barring entry into the U.S. from China.

They were .... against it

Yes even the scientists

Orange man bad so orange man policy restricting travel from China also bad

https://twitter.com/lyndseyfifield/s...61466216734721

BigV 03-20-2020 02:13 PM

The scientists...

The media...

You like big groups, you can not lie.

Orange man *is* bad, on that we agree.

One example. The twitter rollup you cite headlines Trump's actions despite WHO's stance. Then in the same rollup, Trump's action *cites* WHO's stance justifying the policy. This is trying to have your cake and eat it too. In fact, the WHO's stance at the time specifically called for scientific justification for declaring the PHEIC (Public Health Emergency of International Concern) and for scientific justification of policy actions.

I'm curious, when you use the term "the media", do you include lindseyfifield's twitter?

Undertoad 03-20-2020 02:45 PM

correction: some media / some scientists

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One example
example of what now?

tw 03-20-2020 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Undertoad (Post 1048870)
This Twitter thread compiles the media and scientific reaction to Trump's 1/31 announcement announcement barring entry into the U.S. from China.

That Lindsay tweet says exactly where her brain in located. In the part that children use.

We know he lies constantly. But then he cannot help himself. As Steve Bannon so clearly stated, Trump has a 30 second attention span. Senator Bob Corker of Tennessee noted, the White House was effectively an "adult day care center." He was not wrong. Sec of State Tillerson accurately called him a moron. Using facts that said why.

So why would Lindsay blame everyone else - the educated people? Moderates (people who make decisions from facts; not from emotions) would never be as brainwashed as Lindsay clearly is. She blames others whose attention span far greater than 30 seconds. Who are actually educated. That tweet does not belong in any discussion among adults.

Only a wacko extremist, who automatically believes a man who lies every day, would so insult the intelligent of patriotic Americans. She loves the moron because he insults, demeans, and lies - just like Pol Pot, Milosevic, and any good communist. But then he is educated where business is only about enriching yourself at the expense of all counter parties. Again, communism.

Griff 03-22-2020 08:59 AM

Essential Personnel : Turns out some of our lowest paid citizens are essential. We do have wage issues in this country. Lil' G just got over a 50% wage increase due to the crisis. Maybe management is starting to get it. I'm concerned for her health.


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