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How Brown 01-31-2006 09:35 PM

Jack The Ripper
 
Hello Cellar Dwellers............

Not sure where to put this thread....but hey,I'm from Philly and we are sort of bold...so here it goes....

Anyone out there in cyberspace with a ken for Jack The Ripper & The Victorian Period ....I'm here to shoot the breeze.....

The name is How Brown

lumberjim 01-31-2006 10:37 PM

now, cow?

how does one have a ken for a serial killer?

give us 5 interesting facts about him, please

Happy Monkey 01-31-2006 11:39 PM

"From Hell" is an amazing book.

But H. H. Holmes kicks Jack's ass.

dov 02-01-2006 01:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by How Brown
Hello Cellar Dwellers............
Anyone out there in cyberspace with a ken for Jack The Ripper & The Victorian Period ....I'm here to shoot the breeze.....

The name is How Brown

I adore Victorian architecture with all its gaudy embellishments. It was the neo post Renaissance, Mannerist revival or as some call it, Rococo, with its gold gilding, and extreme ornamentation. Dark earthy tones of ox-blood, and burnt sienna dominated, added to its melancholy mood. It had the hint of gothic, which gave its dark sombre mood, the perfect hunting ground for Jack the Ripper, which contributed to his immortality.

I cannot see the allurement of his legend in a sterile Modernist environment.

Jack to Ripper is absolutely alluring and anybody who would go out of his way to deny his haunting magic, I would question their denial.

However, I seem to consistently forget that angels and saints overrun this Forum.

On another sight, we labelled them Born Again Virgins.

I confess, I am human and more than judgemental.

xoxoxoBruce 02-01-2006 03:49 AM

It was replaced by Silence of the Lambs, but welcome to the Celler How Brown. :)

Trilby 02-01-2006 06:16 AM

I think JTR is pretty interesting. Who do you think he was, How Brown? Didn't Patricia Cornwell write a book about him? She seemed to think she knew who he was. That artist guy, right?

Sundae 02-01-2006 06:59 AM

I did a Jack the Ripper walk when I lived in London. Somehow walking the streets made it more eerie. He's been so commercialised (? not quite the right word, but I think you'll know what I mean) that it brought it home that I was in a real place and he had been a real murderer.

dov 02-01-2006 01:42 PM

Possibly, the artist Walter Sickert was Jack the Ripper.

Wally 02-01-2006 01:51 PM

The Rest of the Story
 
How Brown is much too modest - he owns a website devoted to Jack the Ripper, the URL of which may be seen in my profile.

If you've been all dressed up for discussion on Jack the Ripper but have no place to go, give his site a try. It is amazing what rumors and misconceptions there are concerning this legendary figure. The site itself contains a large forum of URL's that link to other ripper sites as well (there are dozens and dozens), one of which is the Mother of All Ripper Sites, this being the Casebook.

Of course, Ripperologists just can't get enough in any venue, so we welcome the formation of a ripper discussion group on this site, provided that others may be sufficiently interested. Have a look at some of those other sites, however, so you'll know what you're in for. ;)


Best,
Wally

wolf 02-01-2006 01:53 PM

This could be some cool shit indeed. I had a passing interest in Jack, but the inability to resolve the question of his identity, or more particularly why he stopped killing, was too much frustration for me.

Happy Monkey 02-01-2006 02:08 PM

He was captured by the Vorlons.

seakdivers 02-01-2006 02:09 PM

My husband mentions the Whitechapel murders (JTR) in his book. It's pretty interesting stuff.

xoxoxoBruce 02-01-2006 03:15 PM

Book? What book? Give it up. ;)

seakdivers 02-01-2006 05:02 PM

It's a book on criminal profiling.

xoxoxoBruce 02-01-2006 05:13 PM

Oh, about me. :blush:

How Brown 02-01-2006 06:16 PM

Hi Lumberjim and all of you people !

5 facts,you say? Hmmmm...Lets start off with one or two facts that very few serial killers take internal organs with them and successfully kill outdoors as the Ripper did. At that time,London,the biggest city in the World,also had a slum on its East End which rivalled any in the world. Jack did it without the advantage of an automobile for escape.

Another fact is that this case was covered on all 7 continents [ probably a first ] and was covered with zeal here in the States by the Press. There are a few suspects that were not British citizens [ Szemeredy,Tumblety,Fogelma,the Portugese cattlemen] who have made life more interesting for the Ripper community.

Brianna....Amazing coincidence here. My ex-wife named her last child Brianna as well.

I can't see where Ms. Cornwell made any change to the status of a man,who may have been one of the original "Ripperologists" himself,Walter Sickert. Even Ms.Cornwell now admits she could use some "help" in closing the case,as the Ripper community has demonstrated Sickert needed to be in London on the kill-dates. The DNA angle didn't cut it. She's not even the first to suggest Sickert was the Ripper.

Who do I think did it? Well...D'onston Stephenson is a intriguing character....I cover him on my site.

Dov: If you dig Victorian architecture,then you will LOVE my neighborhood ! I live in a section of Philadelphia known as Wissahickon. The entire area is a sea of Victorian homes,three and four story....on the edge of the world's biggest municipal park..Fairmount Park....Picturesque.

Thanks a lot for the nice welcome,all you folks....much appreciated !

How

Tonchi 02-01-2006 06:23 PM

In other words, this was a spam post. How about that, UT?

How Brown 02-01-2006 06:27 PM

Spam post? Hardly.

There's a lot of people who have interest in Victorian culture and the Whitechapel Murders...It appears some do.

Since you don't...take it on the arches,pal.

Wally 02-01-2006 07:09 PM

No Spam
 
Maybe someone didn't read any too closely:


Quote:

Originally Posted by Wally
Of course, Ripperologists just can't get enough in any venue, so we welcome the formation of a ripper discussion group on this site, provided that others may be sufficiently interested. Have a look at some of those other sites, however, so you'll know what you're in for.


Having looked extensively through the cellar, I saw no venue for discussions of this sort; hence the suggestion. We are always on the lookout for new ideas on this topic though and had thought there may be some latent interest amongst the members here. If not, just say so and we will take it from there. No one HAS to participate.

capnhowdy 02-01-2006 07:29 PM

I was thinking it was 'just me'.

BigV 02-01-2006 09:57 PM

I'd vote not spam too. Where's the url? I don't believe that wally's link in his profile is the barb on the hook. I guess it's legit. Uninteresting to me, but inoffensive in the context of the cellar.

dov 02-01-2006 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by How Brown

Dov: If you dig Victorian architecture,then you will LOVE my neighborhood ! I live in a section of Philadelphia known as Wissahickon. The entire area is a sea of Victorian homes,three and four story....on the edge of the world's biggest municipal park..Fairmount Park....Picturesque.

Gargoyles? Have to have Gargoyles. I live in Montreal; we have our share of Victorian. I love it whether it is the architecture or the interior design.

An interesting twist to these homes, many incorporate the language of art neuveux.

Someone close to me is semi addicted to the Bordello environment. In the spirit of Bordello and in her honour my guest room is an authentic rendition. I sleep there occasionally and have wonderfully vivid dreams. I change the linen.

I am a Sculptor and have done restorations on those homes, the ornate exterior details, including stained glass. I adore it all.

Fuck the Modernists! So many beautiful homes were demolished here to be replaced with glass boxes.

I have moulds of Gargoyles and such, and during the equinox or solstice, I make a large profit off the Wicca’s, lol

Nice to meet you How.

Ps, relative to a Jack the Ripper Thread, even though I have never been into role play on a group level, (never more than three people :redface: ) a role-play thread crossed my mind, re Ripper.

wolf 02-02-2006 12:43 AM

Cool stuff. Too cool to be spam. Welcome.

dov 02-02-2006 01:35 AM

Wish I could come up with something witty other than weird.


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