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dov 01-23-2006 09:32 PM

We lost.
 
Conservatives won. Canada. I am not looking forward to becoming a State of America. I am not looking forward to becoming a part of the States anti-missal program, the one Martin, Liberal PM, snubbed bush on. I am not looking forward to the Redneck Harper taking away a woman’s choice. Would not surprise me if Harper were a closet BAC.It is not a good day.

Happy Monkey 01-23-2006 11:31 PM

No majority at least, though.

dov 01-23-2006 11:35 PM

It is a weak minority for the Conservative party. Both parties spent mega bucks during the campaign. It will not be to Conservative benefit to propose anything extreme which will force a vote of confidence and another election.

What this means to me is, Harper cannot become bush’s puppy. Bucks or not, if Harper chooses to kiss bush’s a$$, there will be another election. There will be no cooperation with the American missal defence program. It will be status quo.

I like status quo, especially since we are second only to the Saudis in oil reserves. I saw somewhere we have ten times the amount of oil reserves than all the Arab and Persian countries combined, but I wont quote that without a reference handy. Status quo is cool; we can do nothing and just sit back and wait.

Water? Later, after all this is only my second post on this Forum.


Martin, at this moment, just resigned as the Liberals leader. I never liked Paul Martin, other than seeing the awe on his face in the presence of the Dalai Lama; Martin backstabbed Prime Minister Jean Cretien, (I loved Cretien). I personally never forgave Martin. Tonight he paid the piper.

dov 01-23-2006 11:36 PM

Nice to meet you Monkey.

dov 01-24-2006 04:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dov
I like status quo, especially since we are second only to the Saudis in oil reserves. I saw somewhere we have ten times the amount of oil reserves than all the Arab and Persian countries combined, but I wont quote that without a reference handy.

Quote:

There are 175 billion barrels of proven oil reserves here, (Canada). That’s second to Saudi Arabia’s 260 billion but it’s only what companies can get with today’s technology.

The estimate of how many more barrels of oil are buried deeper underground is staggering. The total estimates could be two trillion or even higher.

That’s eight times the amount of reserves in Saudi Arabia. :mg:

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/...n1225184.shtml
Still not ten times the reserves of all the Arab and Persian reserves combined, I will find it.

Conservative or Liberal government, we are cool.

(I know its vain, but is it kosher here to quote ones self?)

footfootfoot 01-24-2006 05:49 AM

Hi dov, welcome.
I'm sorry to hear that you have so much oil. that means it is just a matter of time before we have to liberate your country form its oil, err, cruel dictatorship, thus leaving one less country for some of us to consider moving to...

Trilby 01-24-2006 05:52 AM

I'm sorry you're bummed and I can understand it. I was pretty upset about Bush's win in '04. At least you can DO a vote of no confidence if need be (which I certainly hope won't be needed.) We're stuck. Long, big sigh.

Oh, speaking of oil, my Non-Western Environments prof said this: "We can't use Iraqi oil. It's not the KIND of oil we use." WTF?? and WTF kind of class is Non-Western Environments, anyway?

Undertoad 01-24-2006 06:26 AM

It sounds like a misunderstanding of how crude oil works. The oil that comes out of the ground in Iraq is different than the stuff that comes out in Texas or the North Sea or etc. They require slightly different refining methods... the stuff out of M.E. is supposed to be higher quality ("light sweet crude", with low sulfur content) and thus easier to refine. But all stuff called crude oil can be refined to produce petrol/gasoline.

It may be that US refinieries are not equipped to handle Iraqi crude oil for some reason, like there's a substance in it that they don't remove. But it doesn't matter because if SOME refinery somewhere can refine it, it has the same economic value to the world. (You may be allergic to peanuts, but the fact that peanuts are sold cheaply, lowers the price of cashews that you aren't allergic to.)

Trilby 01-24-2006 06:30 AM

thanks!

Happy Monkey 01-24-2006 07:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dov
Nice to meet you Monkey.

Likewise.

Welcome to the Cellar.

dov 01-24-2006 08:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by footfootfoot
Hi dov, welcome.
I'm sorry to hear that you have so much oil. that means it is just a matter of time before we have to liberate your country form its oil, err, cruel dictatorship,

Hahaha, subtle as a sledge hammer.

Thank you for the welcome fff.

Buhbuh and his other brother Buhbuh from Georgia could not handle our minus 60c weather. An American invasion here would make the Nazis in Russia look like a day in the tropics. Who needs an army when Mother Nature protects us.

dov 01-24-2006 08:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brianna
I'm sorry you're bummed and I can understand it. I was pretty upset about Bush's win in '04.

Brianna I am not bummed, being a minority government keeps the status quo, relatively. I am curios as to what type of leader Harper will be, how skilful or not he will be in parliament.

If more have your bush attitude, I may like it here.

Hope there are a few BAC rednecks to bounce off on here. (Just a few)

Thank you for your concern.

mrnoodle 01-24-2006 09:41 AM

I'm a redneck, bounce away :)

It's okay, we'll still protect you with our "missals" even if you don't help foot the bill.

/spar

Elspode 01-24-2006 11:57 AM

Welcome, Dov. We're going to need all you hosers up there to construct and pay for the infrastructure to liberate all the petroleum from the oil sands they're trapped in before we'll be ready to liberate you from your oppressive Socialist government.

Let us know when you've got that taken care of, okay? :lol:

dov 01-24-2006 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elspode
Welcome, Dov. We're going to need all you hosers up there to construct and pay for the infrastructure to liberate all the petroleum from the oil sands. :lol:

Thank you for the welcome Elspode.

Its cool, China is taking care of that concern. They have set up the technology and are personally extracting what we are selling them. We are the States number one supplier of oil. We are a bit nervous considering you eight trillion dollar deficit. We kinda like being paid for our oil.

Quote:

The United States set deficit records with most of its major trading ... a $8.1 billion imbalance with Canada, the country's largest trading partner.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/...n1124297.shtml
China pays cod.

dov 01-24-2006 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrnoodle
I'm a redneck, bounce away :)

It's okay, we'll still protect you with our "missals" even if you don't help foot the bill.

Missals are not your concern, suitcases are. :nuke: Anywhere, any time, any place, and that is impossible to defend against no matter how much illegal eavesdropping wiretapping you do. Missal defence is a useless way of spending a buck, a buck you do not have.

Did I do relatively ok for my first redneck bounce here?

(I may act as if I am indifferent to affirmation or not, shhhh, I like it)

I would say on a base of one to ten, I did a six.

Undertoad 01-24-2006 04:22 PM

No, you continued to misspell "missile" after being mocked for it and that removed two points.

Trilby 01-24-2006 04:36 PM

dov is kinda bugging even me now. Relax, ya Canuck ya. I get so tired of furriners coming in here and taking that stance right away. Go fix your own country and then enlighten us all, OK? Jeez.

capnhowdy 01-24-2006 06:18 PM

and if you have a problem with Georgia Boys you can kiss my ass. Outside of that, Welcome to the Cellar. Have a nice day!

dov 01-24-2006 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Undertoad
No, you continued to misspell "missile" after being mocked for it and that removed two points.

Actually, weeding out the spell checkers, I am one for one, so far.
I give myself four points.

dov 01-24-2006 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brianna
dov is kinda bugging even me now. Relax, ya Canuck ya. I get so tired of furriners coming in here and taking that stance right away.

That is my stance, now or then.
Did I miss the newbies must stick to Pollyanna, for six months, or at the discretion of the cells hierarchy, in cells rulebook?

:headshake

capnhowdy 01-24-2006 07:01 PM

QUIZ TIME

Undertoad 01-24-2006 07:01 PM

You may always post whatever you like, but the judgement part never ends. :D

capnhowdy 01-24-2006 07:06 PM

I thought "we lost" was what Georgia boys tell the cops when they're weaving and crossing the centerline. :bolt:

marichiko 01-24-2006 07:14 PM

Quote:

You may always post whatever you like, but the judgement part never ends.
How true! I get beat up about my horrid spelling on a regular basis. You'd think that after almost 3,000 mis-spelled posts, folks would have resigned themselves, but no-oh! :eyebrow:

Anyhow, If you all have that much oil, you will soon be a protectorate like the Virgin Islands or something. Don't forget that we have Alaskans and Montanans who are also quite used to the cold. We also have Samoan lawyers for when things get REALLY tough!

So welcome, and don't worry about your government. It will be taking a turn for the worse in the near future! :headshake

Trilby 01-24-2006 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dov
That is my stance, now or then.
Did I miss the newbies must stick to Pollyanna, for six months, or at the discretion of the cells hierarchy, in cells rulebook?

:headshake

relax. don't do it. Don't have to stick to Pollyanna. I said fix your own country and then come tell us how to run ours. Obviously your fellow countrymen and women are screwed enough to vote for the conservative, bush-loving blokes. Fix that.

lumberjim 01-24-2006 08:05 PM

dov, your quiz:

this is very important. it will effect how others view you from here on in. don't fuck it up.

1. what does the color blue smell like?

3. how many chucks could a woodchuck chuck?

4. are you gonna win?

5. ketchup or mustard on your hot dog?

6. what happened to question #2?

7. how many fingers am i holding up?

8. what's the most unheard of thing you've ever heard of?

9. what is the opposite of 'above me?'

10. how many keys are there on your keyboard?

footfootfoot 01-24-2006 08:50 PM

"The quizzical life of LumberJim"
the complete cellar quiz list now available in paperback!

Do you all see it? I see it, I see it!

It will be in print in time for xmas.

I wish I was an eccentric millionaire rather than an eccentric hundredaire.

dov 01-24-2006 09:12 PM

Some people enter a room, cyber or real, find themselves a safe vantage point, take notes on who is who and once they have a general idea of the people places and things, will get a toe wet, then a foot, then both, etc.

Other people, like me, enter a room, immediately push buttons, measures the responses, sits back a while and decides if this is home or not. It is my nature being a button-pushing, people studying, man.

Unbelievably, I am a funny guy. Lol

Time will tell.

(I like it here)


Quote:

Originally Posted by Brianna
dov is kinda bugging even me now. Relax, ya Canuck ya. I get so tired of furriners coming in here and taking that stance right away. Go fix your own country and then enlighten us all, OK? Jeez.

It wouldn’t hurt fixing my country if you paid your $8.1 billion imbalance with us.

Quote:

The United States set deficit records with most of its major trading ... a $8.1 billion imbalance with Canada, the country's largest trading partner.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005...in1124297.shtml
On top of that, the $4 billion in illegal tariffs on our soft lumber you stole from us. $12.1 billion you owe us is not chicken feed and it would go far in remedying some of our meagre problems.

BTW, we have no problems. We make excellent igloos, and take care of our sled dogs.
:rolleyes:

dov 01-24-2006 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brianna
relax. don't do it. Don't have to stick to Pollyanna. I said fix your own country and then come tell us how to run ours. Obviously your fellow countrymen and women are screwed enough to vote for the conservative, bush-loving blokes. Fix that.

It’s an impotent minority Government we voted in, equals status quo, which is fine with me and I appreciate your concern.

We will not become Blairish Bush puppies.

Our Conservatives are relative to your Ultra Left.

Our Liberals have tree hugging exercises every morn. Their slogan, No Tree Left Un Hugged.

(I could not do Pollyanna if my life depended on it.)

dov 01-24-2006 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by capnhowdy
and if you have a problem with Georgia Boys you can kiss my ass. Outside of that, Welcome to the Cellar. Have a nice day!

I used to sell business-to-business, computers, software, and peripherals.
I did the east coast, phone work.
Georgia was my favourite, the receptionists, Georgia peaches, melted from my chocolate coated, British, French Canadian accent. They passed me through to wherever I wanted to go, effortlessly. I had them on hello.

Humility is not my strong suit.

Thank you, have a nice day yourself.

(I will pass on your ass invitation, ty)

xoxoxoBruce 01-24-2006 10:22 PM

That debt will be cancelled when we save you from Sharia law. China doesn't pay cash, they just deduct it from Walmarts bill. ;)

Urbane Guerrilla 01-24-2006 11:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dov
. . . not looking forward to becoming a State of America. I am not looking forward to becoming a part of the States anti-missal program . . .

Hey! We're not anti-Catholic! :p

Radar 01-24-2006 11:42 PM

I'm no fan of Bush or anyone who likes him, but exactly what is wrong with making a missile defense system? I think we should have had one decades ago. I'd like to make a defense system that was fool proof, and then give the plans to every single nation on earth so all missiles would be useless.

Urbane Guerrilla 01-25-2006 12:48 AM

Heck, missile defense plans and residential bomb shelter plans... spare bedroom, winecellar, sleepover accommodation and even a place to park your Spacebag(tm) storage!

It's all suitably Heinleinesque to me. Prepare, IOT Prevail.

dov 01-25-2006 01:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Radar
I'm no fan of Bush or anyone who likes him, but exactly what is wrong with making a missile defense system?

Missile defence systems are useless against gorilla warfare, which I believe, such warfare in the States, will rival the suicide bombings of Israel, Iraq, and Afghanistan, combined, which the American citizen are not close to being emotionally prepared for. Instant code red and your country shuts down, not like Israel, when a bomb goes off in the shop next door, Israelis finish their dessert. I do not wish that fate on anyone, but I think it is inevitable. There is no need for any terrorist attacks on the homeland of the States at this time. I do not mean to offend anybody but it would be redundant, Bush is doing a fine job on destroying the States single handily. They are patient, AQ, but I agree with your ideal, Radar, making missiles impotent. Wish you could find a way to make suitcases impotent. Dirty bombs.

My personal ideal is no child should starve to death, anywhere in the world, or die of a disease because she or he was born where the medication to save her is a political issue and unavailable. Clinton recently negotiated with several pharmaceuticals to supply medication, which may be affordable to the so-called third world. It is a beginning. Bono, from U2 is also on that mission. I cling to hope.

dov 01-25-2006 01:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce
That debt will be cancelled when we save you from Sharia law. China doesn't pay cash, they just deduct it from Walmarts bill. ;)

caught my attention
Quote:

"If Wal-Mart were an individual economy, it would rank as China's eighth-biggest trading partner, ahead of Russia, Australia and Canada,"
http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/english...ent_395728.htm

lumberjim 01-25-2006 01:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dov
Some people enter a room, cyber or real, find themselves a safe vantage point, take notes on who is who and once they have a general idea of the people places and things, will get a toe wet, then a foot, then both, etc.

Other people, like me, enter a room, immediately push buttons, measures the responses, sits back a while and decides if this is home or not. It is my nature being a button-pushing, people studying, man.

Unbelievably, I am a funny guy. Lol

Time will tell.

(I like it here)



It wouldn’t hurt fixing my country if you paid your $8.1 billion imbalance with us.


On top of that, the $4 billion in illegal tariffs on our soft lumber you stole from us. $12.1 billion you owe us is not chicken feed and it would go far in remedying some of our meagre problems.

BTW, we have no problems. We make excellent igloos, and take care of our sled dogs.
:rolleyes:

ok. failure to answer the quiz is graded as a zero. the
Quote:

Unbelievably, I am a funny guy. Lol
oxymoron costs you 5 points,
coming off as if you were in charge of your far superior country, and we are in charge of our theiving, deadbeat future third world country (how much of the $12.1b do I personally owe you, again?) costs you another 17

being an arrogant french canadian dickhead costs you 30

you come out of this with negative 156 points (triple bonus because you like little boys)

and in closing let me say .......welcome aboard, dickhead!

dov 01-25-2006 02:12 AM

I have to give you credit for your insight. You do the math.
Thank you for the welcome.

(Your personal debt of the eight trillion is around $27,000.)

lumberjim 01-25-2006 02:13 AM

take a check?

dov 01-25-2006 02:15 AM

http://www.brillig.com/debt_clock/

dov 01-25-2006 02:20 AM

Is the check in the mail?

I will respect you in the morning.

lumberjim 01-25-2006 02:27 AM

Quote:

Canada's population clock
By applying this rate to the estimated Canadian population as of July 1st, ... At this rate, the population of Canada will reach 32,569,394 by July 1st, 2006. ...
looks like i owe canada about $41 and you.... about $0.000006

think i'll just blow you a kiss instead

dov 01-25-2006 03:15 AM

Lets do coffee while we still have a couple of bucks in our pockets.
My treat.

xoxoxoBruce 01-25-2006 04:01 AM

The trade imbalance is how much more we buy from you than you buy from us, that's all. It's not unpaid, every tranaction (for practical purposes) is paid. It's just keeping track of wealth flow. ;)

dov 01-25-2006 04:11 AM

If you go bankrupt today, the best we can do is wait in line for our five cents to the dollar, max.

dov 01-25-2006 04:20 AM

Couple of natural disasters, a few dirty bombs, Code Red for two or three months, you are a write-off. I do not wish this upon you or anybody, but it is more than possible, for arguments sake. A twelve billion dollar write-off hurts, and it doesn’t even give us a tax deductible break.

dov 01-25-2006 04:29 AM

Face it, you are a credit risk, and China is not. We have mega deals with China. Of course, it is cheaper dealing with you, re transport etc, but we cannot take the chance of having all our eggs in one basket.

We are your number one trading partner, to date, and I and people as paranoid as I am, are concerned.

Beestie 01-25-2006 04:29 AM

What xoB is trying to tell you is that America bought and PAID FOR more things from Canada than Canada bought and PAID FOR from America.

And you don't need to worry about America's interest in your oil. America is far more likely to need Canadian water before it needs Canadian oil.

No one has yet asked you if you are a separatist. Well, out with it.

dov 01-25-2006 04:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beestie
America is far more likely to need Canadian water before it needs Canadian oil.

Water, BINGO!

I believe we supply the States with eighty percent of their hydro, I am not sure, and I will look it up later. BTW, we are the largest diamond suppliers in the world as well.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beestie
No one has yet asked you if you are a separatist. Well, out with it.

My mother tongue is English. I only speak French for sex or money. I am Canadian.

Water, your sharp Beestie.

Trilby 01-25-2006 05:08 AM

You SURE your mother tongue is English? You write the way my mother's family sounds. I have to agree with LJ on this one, you are a French Canuck dickhead. whine, whine, whine, we supply you with THIS, we supply you with THAT, eighty percent of your water, all your oil! hey, what about creton? How much of that shit do you give us? If you are so freaking wonderful why are you such a bit player? Nobody cares about Canada, not even my mom! I'm sorry Canada is filled with bitter people--maybe it's the weather, eh?

Fix your broken, limping, gasping health care system.

And if you aren't concerned about the latest vote, why did you bother with this at all? My cousins have a word for people like you: French. Says it all.

dov 01-25-2006 05:45 AM

Congratulations Brianna, you are my first iggy.

I refuse to have a discourse with crude people who have a flimsy enough ego to attempt to put others down to compensate for their own inadequacies. I bet you drive a boat of a car and have a gun collection that you are very proud of. I will know when you grow up and may acknowledge you then, maybe.

Quote:

Originally Posted by dov
We are the largest producer of hydro-electric power in the world
In 2000, Canada exported 50.06 Twh (valued at $4.08 billion) to the United States. This trade has helped customers in a number of provinces enjoy electricity rates that are among the lowest in the world.
Canada is a net exporter to the U.S. largely due to its hydro resources with exports originating mainly from Quebec, Manitoba and British Columbia.


Trilby 01-25-2006 05:50 AM

Wheeeeeeew Howdy! What's an iggy? Is that some sort of Frenchie Shame-On-You award?

Boat of a car? Guns?
dov doesn't know me very well, eh?

What was it? The creton crack? Sorry, sore spot for you?

You're totally French and you know it.

Happy Monkey 01-25-2006 07:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Radar
I'm no fan of Bush or anyone who likes him, but exactly what is wrong with making a missile defense system? I think we should have had one decades ago. I'd like to make a defense system that was fool proof, and then give the plans to every single nation on earth so all missiles would be useless.

From my perspective, there's no problem researching missile defense. Even if it never works, a lot of good technology can come out of it. But it doesn't work yet, and they want to deploy it, which is a stunning waste of money.

Undertoad 01-25-2006 08:13 AM

I liked Montreal because it's a city of restaurants, and I like food. Walking downtown to find a sidewalk cafe was particularly memorable. It's clean and cultured and only a little bit rude. I envy you for having that city as home.

A trade imbalance is not a debt; it merely means Canada is buying more from the US than the US is buying from Canada. It's not necessarily a bad thing. I have a terrible trade imbalance with my local grocery store, as they buy nothing from me, but I am going to continue the relationship anyway.

Guerilla warfare happens with local militias. Gorilla warfare happens in zoos.

You really ought to have answered the quiz, there's no shame in it.

Beestie 01-25-2006 08:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Happy Monkey
From my perspective, there's no problem researching missile defense. Even if it never works, a lot of good technology can come out of it. But it doesn't work yet, and they want to deploy it, which is a stunning waste of money.

I don't have any differences with your facts but do want to point out that Reagan's at-the-time senseless cold-war escalation is what broke the Soviet Union economically. Sometimes, the bark is worse than the bite. And when it comes to poker and bluffing, that is one area (even if the only one) where W is extremely competent.

Beestie 01-25-2006 08:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dov
I believe we supply the States with eighty percent of their hydro...

Currently, Canada does not export water to anyone which, in my opinion, is not a sustainable position.

maffick 01-25-2006 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beestie
I don't have any differences with your facts but do want to point out that Reagan's at-the-time senseless cold-war escalation is what broke the Soviet Union economically. Sometimes, the bark is worse than the bite. And when it comes to poker and bluffing, that is one area (even if the only one) where W is extremely competent.

How do you figure? I mean he openly lies, and the we the people seem to be buying it, but I wouldn't say that is because he is a good liar, I would say it is because we are a bunch of apathetic spoiled suckers....... Perhaps you could provide an example of Bush being "extremely competent" at poker and or bluffing?
:worried:

Happy Monkey 01-25-2006 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beestie
Sometimes, the bark is worse than the bite. And when it comes to poker and bluffing,

Bluffing only works if your cards are face down. Everybody knows that missile defense doesn't work.

footfootfoot 01-25-2006 11:46 AM

I, for one, like dov. He's not afraid to put up his dukes and mix it up a bit. and seems to be well read and maybe latently sarcastic (gorilla warfare hee hee).

When I lived in squirrelington, vt we'd cross over to montrebec all de time. The us border guards were far more dickish to me than any canuck or queeb was.

Plus, the montreal chicks are hot and fit. I never saw even a leetle bit chubby girl there. Or guys for that matter. Not that I was looking beyond seeing what the competition was. (reason # 733 why I am still a US citizen)

Quote:

Originally Posted by dov
We are your number one trading partner, to date, and I and people as paranoid as I am, are concerned.

HA and well you should be, considering our not inelegant track record of personal and corporate bankruptcy and outright pillaging of our own population! Do you think we'd have any sympathy for people with british/french hybrid accents?

Hell, most americans have no idea what maple syrup is or should taste like. THEY USE PANCAKE SYRUP!!!

Gotta go.


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