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Talking "furrin lengwidge" is now illegal in Kansas?
I'm wondering why nobody has jumped on the story that a Latino kid was suspended from school in Kansas today, for the high crime of speaking Spanish outside class to one of his friends? I'm looking for a thread to that story now.
Looks like after Kansas schools get rid of all those godless science teachers who refuse to see the truth of Creationism they want to wipe out anybody who won't accept the English language as their savior as well :eyebrow: |
http://www.kansascitykansan.com/arti...ocal/news4.txt
another interesting kansas story: http://www.cnn.com/2005/EDUCATION/12....ap/index.html Kansas Anti-Creationist Professor (forced?) to Resign |
This is just flat-out unbelievable.
What in the flying hell is wrong with those people?! |
"I was trying to be nice to her. I asked her why she did not want me to speak Spanish and she got mad. She said 'I don't want to hear it in my building.' "
If we get too many more control freak principal stories we'll have to start a thread to track them. |
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They'll send her to sensitivity training, give her a new position and move her to the "central office", and increase her salary by 15%.
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The principal handled things poorly, but ... the young man "spoke spanish to his friends to help them" but by doing so he's reducing their chances to become proficient in english ... and recieve proper correction from someone who is proficient in both languages.
"It's just natural for me to speak to them in Spanish," Zach said. "Some of them don't speak English that well, and it is easier for them. " |
All we need to do now is to get the nonsense the fundamentalist speak declared a foreign language and we'll be fine.
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I'm not saying that instruction should not be in English, I'm just saying that public schools are not intended as 'total immersion' situations. In the classroom the teacher may have a right to restrict speech. But in the hallways and the lunchroom? It reminds me of this guy. Quote:
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Everytime I make a call to a business that's any larger than Mom and Pop and cousin Joe, I am treated to an automated recording which advises me to press 1 for English or 2 for Spanish. Colorado has got to be one of the most backward states in the union, but even it seems to recognize that there is a significant percentage of the population out there that is most comfortable transacting business in Spanish.
Certainly, it is very important for children whose native tongue is Spanish to become proficient in English, as well, if they wish to get far in the US as adults. However, disciplining a student for speaking Spanish outside the classrooms reminds me of the stories of Native American children who were taken away to boarding schools and punished for speaking in their own tongue. This country lost a major portion of its native heritage with the loss of those languages. One thing I love about being in the 4 corners area is the chance to hear the Navajo language on the airwaves, and look at the great contribution the Navajo code talkers made in WWII. That principle should be exiled to South America. |
I've been following it, but I didn't bring it up because, frankly, it is embarassing. I work right down the street from that school district. I've been in their headquarters building.
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Mari, I agree about the boarding schools. However, while doing my mandatory fact check for my last post I discovered that the U.S. goverment mandated the prohibition of native language, and not the schools themselves. |
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Some people ought to resign out of sheer shame. I speak three languages besides English, and Spanish is one -- I don't count once being just about able to order lunch in Turkish as exactly speaking it.
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Fortunately for that teacher, the song was originally written using "Happy Holidays". Otherwise we would have had another Spanish Inquisition. As we all know, nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition. Happy Holidays to ya all – because I remember why people fled Europe to settle here. |
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All that guff really amounts to is the anti-Christ crowd waving the white flag. "Since when were we having people not say 'Merry Christmas'?" ("Revisionists? When were we ever revisionists?") One is put in mind of the Soviets, another notably left of center group, announcing there had never been a Soviet-American race to the moon -- shortly after July 1969. :lol:
Recall that this matter did not start this year, but last year at about this time. This December there was more noise made about it, and it seems to have had the desired effect. |
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Christianity is the majority religion in the United States, but not the only one. Efforts to paint as anti-Christmas deliberate efforts to be inclusive are self-defeating. Maybe this is all a warm up for the first US pogroms, but I doubt that there will be many takers. |
BS, Rich. I couldn't name such a zealot, and neither could you, most likely. It seems I must inform you that the desired effect is that "Merry Christmas" shall not be disparaged in the public square. This seems to me a better thing than what has been posted as the alternative path.
And for "the first US pogroms," you're a little late, by upwards of a century. Lynchings? Ku Klux Klan? Just pogroms writ small. Race riots? A little bigger and more destructive. Not sponsored by government Cossacks, to be sure, but then like many things American, this kind of thing seems quite adequately done by private individuals. Now, not vexing the Christians, of whatever intensity of practice, hardly seems the stuff to engender pogroms. For that you need three things: 1. Hatred. 2.Governmental Power. 3. A Disarmed Target Population. Point to a zone where all three conditions apply, and that would be where in the U.S. to expect a pogrom. |
The Branch Davidians were not disarmed. Disarming isn't necessary when you've got Warthogs and Apaches. :headshake
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Ever hear of something called "The Ghost Dance," UG? Or a people called the Lakota? Or a place called "Wounded Knee"? Ever hear of Canyon de Chelly and the Long March and the Navajo? Ever hear of the Cherokee and the "Trail Of Tears"? :eyebrow: |
As I said, Rich was a little on the late side here.
Mari, I did half my growing up in Rapid City, SD. Sioux all over the place. Been to Wounded Knee, too. We watched the AIM kick off, and kick up dust -- they were annoying enough that we started talking about the Assholes In Moccasins. |
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1) Wounded Knee is a) what you put an ace bandage on b) the place where some drunk injuns got uppity in the 1970's c) the location where members of the Lakota tribe were slaughtered in the 1890's for practicing their religion. 2) The ghost dance is a) What you do at a halloween party b) What spirits do when they want to celebrate in the local graveyard c) A ceremonial performed by the Lakota Sioux at the end of the 19th century that they believed would cause time to start running backwards, the buffalo would return, dead loved ones would be reborn, and the white man would vanish from the high plains. 3) Canyon de Chelly is: a) the world's largest receptical for grape jelly b) a resort in the French alps c) the sacred home of the Dinee' or Navajo; the place where the Navajo's chief diety, Changing Woman, was said to have been born and the location of the final battle of the Navajo with the US military where many Navajo jumped to their deaths thousands of feet below rather than surrender their most holy site. 4) The long march is: a) an especially tedious and lengthy tune your band teacher made you learn to play for homecoming parades b) an especially snowy and wintery month that seems to go on forever c) the forced journey by foot at the hands of the US Calvery that the Navajo made from their sacred home of Canyon de Chelly to a barren reservation in Oklahoma. Many Navajo died either on the march or in Oklahoma from starvation. Don't bust a gasket trying to answer these. :eyebrow: |
I see every correct answer is C.
Mari, do us both a kindness: quit assuming I'm only as bright as you are, okay? Bring your A game, not your usual. If I wanted to behave as irrelevantly resentful as yourself, I'd be sneeringly informing you that M.C. Escher is not a rapper. I like the Ace bandage one, though. |
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You know, UG, I actually dislike playing the PC card, but in your case, I think you deserve to be hit up side the head with it.
"Assholes in Mocasins" |
UG's problem may also stem from the fact that some of those Sioux beat the shit out of him on occasions when he was being his typically antagonistic self at the wrong time. Friends have told me the Sioux are frequently 6'2" and very smart and you definitely do not want to get on their wrong side in a bar. UG probably decided it was safer for him to leave the state.
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Wrong on all counts, Tonchi. All the fights I ever had were with caucasian kids.
Satire should be done better. :p |
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Bring your A game, girl! Not your usual one! |
I always got along well with people of other races, in general. Except japanese -- for some reason I've clashed with every Japanese person I've ever known. But as to racism, I've been colorblind forever. I don't make it my personal crusade to sniff out prejudice under every rock, I just don't factor it into my appraisal of someone's worth.
I'm also a "fundie". Why is it that my religious beliefs get me automatically pigeonholed into the "pokes brown people with sticks" category? I thought libs were supposed to be free of bias. *snort* |
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Noodle, I never knew that you fundies hated black folk! Really? Do you guys really beat 'em with sticks? Down here in fundieville, they seem to more or less leave the black folk alone (yes, Wolf, there are three black people here in Colorado. I guess Noodle and his friends ran off the rest. ;) ). |
Mari, when UG starts spewing those "Bring it on" remarks of his, I am reminded of the priceless scene in Raiders of the Lost Ark where this huge sword-brandishing bully is glaring and posturing at Harrison Ford. We all know what the outcome was :D
Some people/statements/ideas aren't worth wasting your time on. |
Useless trivia: that scene was filmed that way because Harrison Ford was deathly ill that day on the set. It was supposed to be a long drawn-out fight scene, but he wasn't up to it so they changed it to the humorous set up instead.
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... and one of the greatest scenes of all time is created :thumb: UG started talking about cuisine once and we all thought he was sick too. Unfortunately, he soon recovered.
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You don't get sick off my cooking, Tonchi, as you'd know if you tried some. Go ahead; it doesn't hurt 'less'n you overeat! :p
"... I am large, I contain multitudes." -- Walt Whitman (rather OT) Recent development in cooking baked beans -- I found a recipe in something dating from the mid-1930s for baked beans that noted they can be done in under three hours if cooked in a pressure cooker instead of eight hours in the oven. Hmm. |
They are fully cooked but not good. :vomit:
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More of a mental circle jerk. :lame: Well, it keeps your hands busy and improves your morale...
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UG seems to be more easily amused nowdays. Shall we tie him down and tickle him? :)
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Either that, or you're getting better at being amusing. Polls, tickles... handjobs? ;) This goes on long enough, we'll all have to adjourn to the recipe thread to keep our strength up.
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