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choco11 10-31-2005 08:38 PM

Down with flu
 
hello there
I have been having flu since the last couple of days
I wanted to take medication like relenza but am afraid to try it since I am also an asthmatic patient
Am I doing the right thing
Can I then resort to natural remedies to cure my flu

plthijinx 10-31-2005 08:57 PM

make sure you drink plenty of fluids, take tylenol and get plenty of rest. if your vomiting i suggest saltine crackers. nibble on them, don't chow down on them. and no, you cannot use relenza or tamiflu. take vitamine C and sip on orange juice as well. you can also get some chicken soup too. hope you get to feeling better and welcome to the cellar!

Clodfobble 10-31-2005 09:25 PM

Hey choco, one of your coworkers already stopped by here. You guys should totally coordinate that shit.

Undertoad 10-31-2005 09:48 PM

fuuuuuuck

wolf 11-01-2005 12:12 AM

Anybody else find it strange that an anti-viral is using viral marketing?

Griff 11-01-2005 05:56 AM

We've got another salesman in entertainment. Our hidy hole has been discovered.

plthijinx 11-01-2005 09:56 AM

oh jeezus. was i in that bad of a mood last night to totally fall for this? :smack:

Elspode 11-01-2005 01:00 PM

Why would anyone market something that there's no possible way they are going to be able to make enough of in the first place?

plthijinx 11-01-2005 02:09 PM

me thinks they're refering to the red devils crew bunch

lumberjim 11-01-2005 02:28 PM

maybe new registrants should have to take "the quiz" BEFORE they're granted access to post. we would just need to come to concensus on which questions to ask, and some way of permanentlt displaying their answers for all to see and refer to later.

might lend an air of exclusivity....if everyone's in the club, it's not worth joining.

or not.

justmehere99 11-01-2005 04:58 PM

I'm totally confused, what happened??

lumberjim 11-01-2005 05:06 PM

the 1st post of this thread was posted by someone employed by Relenza. they must have a 'ground swell' marketing strategy. ie, joining various influential and uber-hip message boards and attempting to generate discussion about their product in order to create awareness of them.

On one hand, it's interesting that this medium gets that kind of respect, on the other it sucks my ass.

Clodfobble was very astute, imo, in sniffing it out. I had a vague feeling about it, but she posted her comment before it had even coalesced in my mind. UT exressed his dissapointment in not catching the spammer. now that we've replied, he prolly won;t delete the thread like he would ordinarilly. it takes more work than many of us appreciate to keep a forum clean from this kind of thing, it would seem. we should send him money in thanks for his constant effort. just make sure you tell him who gave you the idea, so i can collect a commission. nyuk nyuk nyuk.

justmehere99 11-01-2005 05:20 PM

Ok, thanks for answering. I have another question.....HOW did you know the person was employed by Relizon? Because they asked about relenza??

Forgive me for the stupid questions. :(

lumberjim 11-01-2005 05:33 PM

i said Relenza. what are you talking about?

plthijinx 11-01-2005 05:45 PM

damn where's my head? i thought because of the "great grammar" of the postee that it was another RDC infiltration. :smack: fuck it. i'm going to go play Texas Hold'em at my local watering hole and concentrate on the heineken and Jägermeister. i don't fly for a couple weeks so i can afford a hang over. all the more reason for eggs over easy, toast and snausages in the morning. late.

Clodfobble 11-01-2005 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by justmehere99
HOW did you know the person was employed by Relizon? Because they asked about relenza?? Forgive me for the stupid questions.

Well, the biggest clue is that just a couple of days ago, another brand-new person made their very first post about Relenza. That person's post was more obviously spam-speak: things like "I've heard Relenza is a really great option." This one was a little more subtle, but nonetheless it committed the cardinal sin of awkwardly mentioning a product name in the very first post, and asking us to tell them about it.

Think about it, your very first post was an introduction to yourself: "Hi there,
I'm new here and just thought I'd say Hello to everyone. :)." This proves that you lurked for at least three or four minutes, long enough to determine that this is a community of people chatting as friends. Occasionally a genuine person will ask for random information on their first post, but they almost always include a much lengthier explanation about their situation and why they want that particular piece of information, which sort of serves as the introduction to themselves. For example:

Probably Spam: "Hey evrey1, I was wondering if anyone has seen the new [insert title here] DVD. I've heard it's really funny! Where can I buy it?"

Probably Not Spam: "Hi, I've been a lurker for awhile, but I finally couldn't resist anymore. I have 2.3 kids and live in Wisconsin. I love it here. Speaking of my 2.3 kids, the youngest is 5 years old. My mother-in-law wants to buy them [Insert DVD title here], but it's rated PG. In our house we're pretty cool about language and nudity (I mean the human body is a natural thing, right?) it's only violence I'm concerned about them seeing. Anyone seen it or know exactly what caused it to be rated PG?"

Sometimes it's hard to tell. For example, there was a first-post a couple of weeks ago, from the user laebedahs I think, that was something to the effect of "You should check out this web hosting service." That alone would have set off alarms, but laebedahs continued to post in a variety of threads on a variety of topics, thus proving he was a legitimate member.

lumberjim 11-01-2005 06:54 PM

and a sick freak like the rest of us.

Trilby 11-01-2005 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lumberjim
and a sick freak like the rest of us.

Yes, but at least he's dating.

justmehere99 11-01-2005 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lumberjim
i said Relenza. what are you talking about?


Ok, it worked....you fucked with me. :lol:
I was just about to send you a message and apoligize for "misquoting" you.

justmehere99 11-01-2005 08:43 PM

Thank you Clodfobble for taking the time to explain, it is much appreciated.

marichiko 11-02-2005 12:50 AM

What I don't get is how and why the Cellar would be targeted by these jerks. Its not like this is some giganto on line community like I-Village or Slate or something. There's what? Maybe 30 or 40 folks who post here on a consistent basis. Then there's the lurkers and no doubt there's some statistic on the ratio of lurkers to active posters. Guessing wildly here, I'll say 10 to 1. That means that at most, these people can reach about 400 people via the Cellar with their trash. And that's if everybody happens to pay any attention to the thread. Why bother and how did they find us?

I post on another board which had around 5,000 members the last time I looked at the stats and is so fast moving that if you don't check in on it once or twice a day, you're lost. No one posts about anti-virals there, so how did the Cellar earn this highly dubious honor?

(By the way, to the assholes who spammed the board with this crap: if I do get the flu, I'll tell my doctor to give me anything BUT Relenza!) :p

Clodfobble 11-02-2005 07:52 AM

The only thing spammers know is that we have over 2000 members; they've never been here before to know how many post regularly. Also, your other board may have a more rigorous registration process to weed out the less-determined spammers, and on a board with that much activity, there is likely more than one moderator with time to delete spam threads. UT does an amazing job--he gets most of them before anyone even sees them. But he can't be online 24 hours a day.

laebedahs 11-02-2005 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clodfobble
Sometimes it's hard to tell. For example, there was a first-post a couple of weeks ago, from the user laebedahs I think, that was something to the effect of "You should check out this web hosting service." That alone would have set off alarms, but laebedahs continued to post in a variety of threads on a variety of topics, thus proving he was a legitimate member.

I don't remember posting about a web hosting service.... here was my first post: http://cellar.org/showpost.php?p=193166&postcount=654

marichiko 11-02-2005 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clodfobble
The only thing spammers know is that we have over 2000 members; they've never been here before to know how many post regularly. Also, your other board may have a more rigorous registration process to weed out the less-determined spammers, and on a board with that much activity, there is likely more than one moderator with time to delete spam threads. UT does an amazing job--he gets most of them before anyone even sees them. But he can't be online 24 hours a day.

Well, yeah, I guess if you just looked at the count of members that might make this place seem like a worthy target numbers wise. I think UT does a great job, by the way. I've seen more crap get through on the mega boards with several round the clock mods than I do here.

Clodfobble 11-02-2005 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by laebedahs
I don't remember posting about a web hosting service....

My apologies. It was someone who registered around the same time as you. lheene, maybe? Like I said, I remember distinctly noting that whoever it was continued to post and prove themselves to not be a tool, so it was okay.

wolf 11-05-2005 02:59 PM

The flu vaccine finally arrived at work. I got my shot, a Hello Kitty Band-Aid, and a lollypop. I will not need Relenza.

(We also get special bandaids and lollypops for TB test day. Bet you're all jealous now.)

lumberjim 11-05-2005 03:16 PM

not even a little bit.

Trilby 11-05-2005 06:52 PM

I took the flu vac back in '88. I shall never, ever make that mistake again. I've never been so sick in my life. I'll take my chances.

(and don't give me the "dead-virus vac" line. All I know is that the one year I got the vac, I nearly died.)


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