Lawsuit pending against Dairy Industry
 

This is beyond stupid.
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The mommy state folks strike again.

If they want to sue the milk industry, they can find plenty of reasons other than to save people from not having the sense to stop consuming something which is making them sick. For instance: I discovered that the Feds allow milk producers to put WHITE DYE in the milk fluids because it would not look very appetizing by itself. How many of you knew that half of what you are drinking is artificial coloring? Now you know why sometimes you see swirls on the top of the carton that almost looks like the stuff is separating :sick:

Feds allow milk producers to put WHITE DYE in the milk fluids

Please include a link to a non-wingnut website that proves this statement.

Hmmm... it's white coming out of the cow.

UT, technically, that doesn't come from a cow...smells and tastes the same I reckon, though.

(I was just waiting for a chance to use my new meter)

You didn't have to wait too long around here, did you? :)

Could be true.. :confused:
The milk sold today has most of the cream (butterfat) removed. Then there's 2%, 1% and skim.
Back when there was just whole and skim milk, when you poured the skim milk into a glass or on your Wheaties, it was translucent. Whole milk was opaque.
Now, all milk seems to be opaque.

Toad, I'll try to find that in writing for you later. Here's how I found out: While I was living in Phoenix my then-husband was selling copiers. He sold one to a dairy and we drove out there one afternoon to deliver it. While I was waiting for the copier to be installed, I overheard a conversation in that office that some agency was investigating them for not having some measurement required in their milk. I don't remember all the details because that was 20 years ago, but the next morning there was a story about it in the Arizona Republic, and it gave the percentages of "ADDITIVES" which are allowed to be present in pasteurized milk. That's right, additives introduced to the milk outside the cow. The article actually said that white coloring may be added by the producer up to a certain percent of volume (and I don't remember the figures).

As for your "bullshit meter", yep, they find bullshit in the milk occasionally too, as well as in your hamburger, tomatoes, and other delicacies. Isn't that why we need a Federal Government? To inspect and document everything carefully and professionally and never make mistakes so that we are all safe to consume anything in our food supply?????

It isn't added at the producer level, if it is added at all.

Um...if the feds allow it, then how can you sue the industry for doing it?? I don't get it?

Although milk is the most thoroughly tested of all foodstuffs, the Federal Government does not test it.

There is, in fact, no such thing as "white dye". White is the absence of color. Sometimes you can add blue dye to something to make it seem whiter, if it is yellowed; this is why laundry detergent is generally blue, not white.

I have googled extensively on colouring/ milk/ additives etc, and have not found it yet. In fact cheese makers add more or less dye to their product to counteract the seasonal variations in milk colour.

Non of the anti-milk sites, however much they froth at the mouth, have raised the issue of colour. The only site I found which had any reference at all claimed it was bleached. I haven't included a link as it was a single line unsupported claim.

Still - I have read more about pus and blood than makes me strictly comfortable.....!

MMmmm. Got pus?

Titanium Dioxide

short enough to copy entire article...

Also interesting:
Why is milk white?
Minor quibble, UT: White is ALL colors. If sunlight, containing all wavelengths of visible light, is shined on a surface, we'll see what's reflected. When no specific colors/wavelengths of light are absorbed, we see what has been reflected. When we see a color, it is because all wavelengths BUT that wavelength have been absorbed by the object we see of that color. When we see black, we see an object whose surface has absorbed ALL frequencies, leaving nothing, no color, black. When we see white, it's because the surface reflects ALL frequencies of light, so we see all the colors together==white.

tw: these two posts contain technical information about the scattering and absorbtion of light. Proceed with caution.

This ranks up there on my list of stupid lawsuits.... why don't we put a label on all food that says - if you eat too much of this you'll get sick and might puke - please consult your physician.

:thumb:
Try to buy white automotive touch-up paint. There are about 4 dozen different whites.

They tested it. Good for them! Looks like titanium dioxide is used in milk substitutes such as malk. No evidence it's an additive to things called milk though.

I googled it too and turned up a lot about yogurt coloring and not much else useful. In fact, Google seems to become less useful now that everybody knows about it. A few years ago I was able to find the most amazing articles, nowdays it is mostly stuff from technical sites which has nothing to do with what I am wanted. Expanding the capabilities of their search engines has not necessarily made Google better, Yahoo seems to find more of the things I am looking up lately.

I wish the Arizona Republic could let me search their archives from November 1984, because I believe that was when I read about this happening. Well, maybe sometime soon I'll drive out to one of those huge producers we have around here and try to find somebody who will talk about what they did with the milk 20 years ago. Could be that they put a stop to it, but I did NOT dream up reading about it when I lived in Phoenix.

As far as why investigate if it is permitted to add color, they were adding TOO MUCH as I recall. I also remember reading a book called "Beautiful Joe" when I was a kid which described unscrupulous milkmen during Victorian times in the USA adding white powders to the milk because the cows were sickly and their milk was thin. In places where milk comes from small producers and not the huge dairy conglomerates which are taking over entire counties in California, it might be harder to regulate and milk might be sold which did not precisely meet FDA requirements. We milk drinkers in 1950's North Carolina used to dread the early springtime because the cows would be eating sprouted wild onions in the fields and the milk produced had a decidedly onion flavor. With milk being mass-procssed by fewer companies, we don't have that problem anymore and all the milk is uniformly tasteless.

White is all colors of light, no colors of pigment.

Black is the absence of color of light, and the presence of color of pigment.

And in case you wondered, I typically jaywalk.

Ju tawkin 2 ME?

Hey girlfriend, you are right about the G. They boast a large document collection half based on indexing web pages by the text of the anchor rather than actually spidering the page. And Google is now Big Brother filtering as much of your text and email as they can get their paws on. They want to set up free WiFi throughout SF, no thanks.

After Yahoo bought Inktomi and Overture (which had bought Alta Vista and FAST), a group of very smart engineers used the Inktomi search engine as the base code and added features from the other two. The relevance scoring polynomial in that is now really large and complex, but it works well after extensive testing and tweaking.

Try Clusty, it groups topics for you.

http://clusty.com/search?query=white...nt%20in%20milk

You get useful information on the first try.

⇨Paint (62)
⇨Titanium Dioxide (21)
⇨Skin (18)
⇨Definition (15)
⇨Pigment Powders (6)
⇨Cattle (6)
⇨Glossary (5)
⇨Goat's Milk Soap Base (4)
⇨Fresco, Colors on White Pigment (2)
⇨Carton Of Milk (3)

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WOW! Thanks so much, this should be fascinating to play with the next time I have to find a reference. The only problem is I have a tendency to actually READ all the interesting looking stuff that turns up, which is why I never get any sleep :3_eyes: