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lumberjim 08-12-2005 09:35 PM

short attention span theatre
 
I'm turning into a lurker. i never have time to sit and read an entire thread. and posting? bah. some of you write long posts. some of you can keep my attention throughout, some....not so much. when i finally DO have a few minutes to read, i'm not in the loop anymore, so it's tough to get involved in a conversation.



waaaahhh.

xoxoxoBruce 08-12-2005 10:57 PM

And you thought being a robber baron was easy. :headshake

richlevy 08-13-2005 12:51 AM

Don't worry Lumberjim, I have you covered. I am ready to institute a program to help you build your attention span. To do so, I have edited this text on Keynesian economic theory I found here


Quote:

Keynes didn't agree with the Classical economists!! In fact the easiest way to look at Keynesian theory is to see the arguments he gave for Classical theory being wrong. large taut nipples In essence Keynes argued that markets would not automatically lead to full-employment equilibrium, but in fact the economy could settle in equilibrium at any level of unemployment. This meant that Classical policies of non-intervention would not work. The economy would need prodding if it was to head in the right direction, and this meant active intervention by the government to manage the level of demand. Follow the links in the navigation bar at the foot of the page or in the side panel to find out more detail on the sort of policies this may involve.

Keynesian beliefs can soft curving breasts be illustrated in terms of the circular flow of income. If there was disequilibrium between leakages and injections, then classical economists believed that prices would adjust to restore the equilibrium. Keynes, however, believed that the level of output (in other words National Income) would adjust. Say, for example, that there was for some reason an increase in injections (perhaps an increase in government expenditure). lush pouting lips This would mean an imbalance between leakages and injections. As a result of the extra aggregate demand firms would employ more people. This would mean more income in the economy some of which would be spent and some saved (or paid in tax). The extra spending would prompt the firms in the economy to produce even more, which leads to even more employment shapely long legs and therefore even more income. This process would go on, and on, and on, and on until it stopped! It would eventually stop because each time income increased, the level of leakages (savings, tax and imports) also increased. Once leakages and injections were equal again, equilibrium was restored. This process is called the Multiplier effect.
I hope this helps. :cool: Maybe I could get a patent.

Bullitt 08-13-2005 12:58 AM

Don't turn into me lj, the lurker world tends to be a lonely one :(

richlevy 08-13-2005 07:58 AM

See, you miss one Plastic Forks and then you start to slip away. :headshake

wolf 08-13-2005 09:48 AM

I think that was a Twilight Zone episode once, wasn't it?

cowhead 08-14-2005 03:02 AM

well.... if you get really bored and have a bit of bandwidth... check out illwillpress.com loook for the fatkins diet and foamy's rant 3... yeah.. keeps me living.. sorry I don't post much anymore.. there are too many of you smart and or funny people :)) then again I haven't been myself for the past while.

Undertoad 08-14-2005 10:00 AM

Jesus, people, just follow your favorite section instead of the whole place! Or just IotD or something.

Don't want to lose anybody.

xoxoxoBruce 08-14-2005 01:25 PM

Aw, they're just pretending they have lives to make me feel bad. :(

BigV 08-14-2005 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Undertoad
Jesus, people, just follow your favorite section instead of the whole place! Or just IotD or something.

Don't want to lose anybody.

You mean there are people who don't read all the new posts, in all the sections, (Except the borg over in TNIP)? Wow. Why?

staceyv 08-14-2005 10:21 PM

I have the same exact affliction!

zippyt 08-14-2005 10:54 PM

Huh ?? What ???? Somebody posted something some where ??? Where ???
I didn't see it !!!!

capnhowdy 08-15-2005 02:27 PM

There's a strong number of folks who, it appears to me, never read a whole thread anyway. They seem to post off the last line in the previous post.

And I don't see how XOB has time to do ANYTHING. He's got a two man job keeping up with and maintaining all his DO-DADS.....heehee

Queen of the Ryche 08-15-2005 10:00 PM

I only post in the threads I feel I have any knowledge in - Most of the threads are waaaay above my head, so I only go where I can exercise my smart ass, or get some really good advice - BTW, thanks all of you brilliant Cellarites for educating me and expanding my horizons. Nuff said.

Kagen4o4 08-15-2005 11:00 PM

i post in threads that catch my attention. the word association thread was a bit too much for me to read EVERY post. i now theyre short but 247 (and growing) pages???

i started out only in TINP but ventured out. and now tend to post in scientific or IoTD threads. or anything that makes fun of americans (i dont have anything against americans in general, its just an easy stereotype to poke at and it seems most of you guys/girls are american. make any Aussie jokes/insults if you want. just make them decent ones, anything that involves a kangaroo is just old and boring)

cheers

Undertoad 08-15-2005 11:15 PM

Another aspect is how much of a power browser you are. Like many people, I find the best approach is to hit New Posts, then open a new tab (Firefox) for each thread.

Kagen4o4 08-16-2005 01:19 AM

as do i but with crazy browser

wolf 08-16-2005 01:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kagen4o4
make any Aussie jokes/insults if you want. just make them decent ones, anything that involves a kangaroo is just old and boring)

I don't know that there are any ... after all, you guys make MUCH better beer (even your bad beer is quite tasty by American Standards*) and you can drink us under the table.

I've been to quite a few conferences with Australians, so I know this from experience.







* American Beer is like making love in a canoe ... fucking close to water

glatt 08-16-2005 07:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Undertoad
Another aspect is how much of a power browser you are. Like many people, I find the best approach is to hit New Posts, then open a new tab (Firefox) for each thread.

Opening a new tab is a good idea.

I sometimes hit "new posts" and then get interrupted before I can read them all. Then when I come back, my browser can't tell me what I've already read, and what I haven't. I miss posts that way, or end up re-reading old ones until I find my place.

dar512 08-16-2005 08:59 AM

Which is why I don't use "new posts". I lost track too many times.

BigV 08-18-2005 06:36 PM

TMI warning: Thread reading strategy
 
I use Mozilla Firefox, and the tabbed browsing is great. One of the tabs on my homepage is the cellar, specifically I use http://www.cellar.org/search.php?do=getdaily (which I also have saved as a bookmark/favorite) as the url for the homepage. When I launch the browser, the tabs open to the pages, including the cellar. When I see all the bold links indicating a new post, I start with the oldest first, reading the last post, using this button: http://www.cellar.org/images/buttons/lastpost.gif. When I've read all the posts in that thread that are new to me, I use my browser's back function, and move up the list to the next oldest unread topic and repeat the process. I may feel moved to reply, usually that's a safe bet. After I've posted my reply I use the browser's back function again until I get to the thread listing again.

When I've read all the new posts, I choose the bookmark for "Today's posts" (see url above) and then I start a new round of catching up. Rinse, repeat until it runs clear. The math geek in the house will recognize this strategy of traversing the tree and know the real name for it, but I forget what it's called.

So that's how I keep up. Toldja it was TMI.

Happy Monkey 08-18-2005 09:17 PM

I (also in Firefox) open the "New Posts" screen, then middle click (open new tab) on each http://www.cellar.org/images/buttons/firstnew.gif icon, opening each thread in a new tab. I then read and close each tab until I run out.

wolf 08-19-2005 12:27 AM

I (also in Firefox) hit the new posts button, and have my browser set NOT to refresh when I use the history to go back to the "search" screen for new posts. I wend my way through each post starting with the most recent until I've read everything, then I hit new posts again to see if I've missed anything or if someone has added to a thread that I've already read. Repeat as necessary.

glatt 08-19-2005 07:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Happy Monkey
then middle click (open new tab)

Sweet. I didn't know about the middle click trick.

farfromhome 08-21-2005 09:51 PM

[quote=Kagen4o4]make any Aussie jokes/insults if you want. just make them decent ones, anything that involves a kangaroo is just old and boring)

Two kangaroos walk into a bar..... Sorry. Couldn't resist. :)

Kagen4o4 08-21-2005 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by farfromhome

Two kangaroos walk into a bar..... Sorry. Couldn't resist. :)

i dont get it

;)

farfromhome 08-22-2005 12:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kagen4o4
i dont get it

;)

It's the setup thats supposed to be funny. Half the lamest jokes around begin "Two (whatever) walk into a bar... Or- An Irishmen, a Polack and a Jew walk into a bar... Or- A lesbian and a lawyer walk into a bar, They're each carrying a poodle under their arms... Etc.
You asked for no old and boring Aussie jokes. I was just tying to be a wise ass by starting with one of the oldest setups around. Its kind of an equal opportunity insult.
Here's a real shot in the dark. Ever heard of a town called Woomera? My girlfriend was based there years ago.

Kagen4o4 08-22-2005 03:01 AM

i know what you were doing. my joke was "i dont get it"
woomera is where we seem to ditch most of the people coming illegally to australia. was your girlfriend being based there a joke too?

Cyclefrance 08-22-2005 08:04 AM

Found this thread again, at last - knew I'd seen it before, but damned if I could remember where...


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