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Sun_Sparkz 05-12-2005 01:55 AM

have you ever detoxed
 
A few years ago i purchased a DETOX kit from the chemist to detoxify my liver/ kidney etc and it took about 10 days to complete - it was pretty disgusting to go through - but it really had results!!

I went to the chemist after a bit of a pimple breakout to grab another kit and found they are priced at around $80to $100 now!!

Does anyone here know any *SAFE* do it yourself detox programs? like you know drink 2 litres of olive oil and sleep on your head for 3 nights or something??

I have read that they should never go over 10 days and to make sure you have 1200 calories each day, and to take a multivitamin evryday.

Gwennie! 05-12-2005 02:24 AM

I never heard of this before. Great results? What were the results? Did you feel better? Could you work during those 10 days? Why did you decide to try this?

Beestie 05-12-2005 07:17 AM

Welcome back, Gwennie. Uhhhh where ya been?

Gwennie! 05-12-2005 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Beestie
Welcome back, Gwennie. Uhhhh where ya been?

Thanks, sweetie. I didn't think anyone noticed. :blush:

I thought I made a complete ass of myself in my last posts of Jan 2004. :bonk: I got flamed and dug myself into a deeper hole in responding to the flamage. So, I just quietly left. :Flush:

But, Undertoad recently told me that I didn't make an ass of myself :comfort:, and one poster doesn't make the majority. So, I decided to try dipping my toe in the water again. I'm still a little nervous about this. :worried:

wolf 05-12-2005 09:54 AM

I know book availability is different in Oz-Land, but see if you can find this or this.

Beestie 05-12-2005 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Gwennie!
I thought I made a complete ass of myself ..

If you haven't made an ass out of yourself around here, you aren't trying hard enough. :lol:

jaguar 05-12-2005 10:24 AM

I (yea shaddup about motives) joined a girlfriend doing a detox thing once, no wheat, booze, drugs, caffeine, dairy or pratically anything else that wasn't a raw vegetable or rice for two weeks, I have to admit I felt pretty good but god, never again.

Trilby 05-12-2005 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by jaguar
I (yea shaddup about motives) joined a girlfriend doing a detox thing once, no wheat, booze, drugs, caffeine, dairy or pratically anything else that wasn't a raw vegetable or rice for two weeks, I have to admit I felt pretty good but god, never again.

I am qualified to say this amounts to DETOX.

Sun_Sparkz 05-12-2005 08:22 PM

The results I saw last time were:
Sleeping better
More alert for about 2 months
clear skin
my nails grew faster (also I stopped biting them;) hmm)
It must have cleaned out lots of things from my liver etc ( my partner in crime even had an instance of "little green balls")
i stopped craving things like sugar and coffee (actually i havent had coffee since)

Thanks for those links Wolf i will check in my local dymocks.

Faintly i can remember my friend doing a do it yourself one that included something like yours Jag, but i recall something like raw egg and vege oil in the mornings.. (I THINK!!) but I cant see how drinking oil could possibly be good for your insides at all!?!?

busterb 05-12-2005 10:09 PM

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=liver+purge

Gwennie! 05-12-2005 10:20 PM

Better:

http://clusty.com/search?tb=firefox-...=liver%20purge

Gwennie! 05-12-2005 10:43 PM

The Google results page is not very enlightening.

With Clusty.com, the Topic Clusters provide instant information. Click on the "oil" topic to expand it. From there, it's easy to see that you don't want to drink just any oil, but there are Essential Oils used for this purpose.

Also there is: "...a popular liver and gall bladder flush based on an olive oil and grapefruit juice purge..."

Doesn't seem like a good idea to consume raw eggs these days with the samonella.

wolf 05-13-2005 12:24 AM

Anything involving the word "purge" cannot actually be good for you.

jaguar 05-13-2005 03:35 AM

salmonella has been around for a fair while....few million years I think. Raw eggs are fine as long as they're fresh. That said, there are few things short of threats of violence that could convince me to drink oil in the morning.

Wolf's right, look at stalin.

Gwennie! 05-13-2005 03:54 AM

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Originally Posted by jaguar
Raw eggs are fine as long as they're fresh.

How often to you visit the farm?

Otherwise -- Fresh -- Are you kidding? I am shocked in these times anyone would even breathe second hand vapors from raw eggs. :eek:

My brother is in the food industry and he says that companies have developed techniques for dealing with this threat, such as homogenizing egg whites for Ceasar Salad preperations.

Anyone that fools around with raw eggs is asking for trouble. Might was well play russian roulette with a loaded revolver. Not for me, thank you.

jaguar 05-13-2005 04:04 AM

.....most of europe eats various foods that contain raw eggs. Ever heard of steak tartare? Ever eaten cookie dough? I've never had food posioning.

Gwennie! 05-13-2005 04:14 AM

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Originally Posted by jaguar
.....most of europe eats various foods that contain raw eggs. Ever heard of steak tartare? Ever eaten cookie dough? I've never had food posioning.

Fuck yea, I have eaten Steak Tartare.

Anacdodatal evidence no longer applies in this century. If you don't pay attention to gross statistics, you are cheating yourself.

Maybe this is a sticking point for me. I am a Search software engineer based in statistial methods. The numbers don't lie. My personal experience is humbled by the statistcs gathered by my software.

jaguar 05-13-2005 05:06 AM

so you wouldn't eat it any more? In my experience good restaurants and good cooks don't poison their customers, shitty fast food places and questionable kitchen practices do. Such information is very hard to gather statistically. I'm sure you're familiar with the complex problems involved in adding circumstantial and background contextual information to statistical information. So far this theory has me eating raw eggs and not getting sick. The EU has outlawed a number of traditional smallgoods because it thinks the manufacturing processes are unsafe. Yet people have been making and eating these things for hundreds of years, sometimes things don't fit the model.

Beestie 05-13-2005 08:19 AM

I used to eat raw eggs all the time. I've had steak tartare, ostrich tartare and every kind of sushi known to man. But I only eat stuff like that at establishments that would stand to lose a lot should something go wrong.

Did anyone notice in Napoleon Dynamite where the farmers drank a whole glass of raw eggs for lunch?

I agree with jag - there's nothing wrong with this stuff if its prepared with care. Hence, I don't eat sushi from that place in the mall where all the angst-filled teenagers work.

cowhead 05-13-2005 03:18 PM

the best way I ever detoxed was taking a couple of gingerbaths and eating nothing but fruit and raw veggies, with a shot of cider vinegar every day and drinking nothing but green tea (all of course bought from either the farmers market or the local heathfood store)for 10 days. felt great afterwards.. then it was back to the re-toxifying. (oh! and you might want to get the liquid forms of both vitamians and amino acids. the second time I added those and I didn't feel too bad in the energy department)

russotto 05-13-2005 03:18 PM

The salmonella, if present, is on the outside of the egg. Perhaps there's a way to safely wash the egg.

Not that I think home-remedy DETOX is anything but a weird fad of some sort.

lookout123 05-13-2005 03:25 PM

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most of europe eats various foods that contain raw eggs.
oooh, theeeeere's a convincing argument that no harm comes from raw eggs. "look honey the europeans do it - it must be ok." :D

Gwennie! 05-13-2005 03:42 PM

My brother works for a large restaurant chain as a product developer. He says that restaurants now buy unshelled homogenized eggs for use in cesear salad and things like that.

wolf 05-14-2005 01:14 AM

It was in Rocky. It must be okay, right?

I liked Orange Juliuses a lot more before I found out what was in them. (Pineapple and Strawberry were my absolute favorite flavors)

Gwennie! 05-14-2005 04:29 AM

Historical precedence for eating raw eggs doesn't count much. The farming practices are completely different today. With Tyson in Arkansas cramming the birds into tiny spaces mass producing eggs in unhealthy conditions. Sure you can eggs from find organicly-fed free-roaming chickens. But, to me this is not a risk worth taking. Sushi is a delicious risk worth taking, but as said above, only in the right places.

busterb 05-14-2005 07:54 AM

Check http://www.tysonfoodsinc.com/freshme.../caseready.asp The case ready meat walmart and others sell are good to go for 16 days. Right!

jaguar 05-15-2005 01:44 PM

Kind of hit on the key of it there Gwennie, by decent food, not shit (whether it be ingredients or meals) and you don't have a problem. You get what you pay for. Organic stuff is interesting, I did a few double-blind tests to see if it really did taste better, yup. The interesting bit is that because it is organic is causes the time it can remain on shelves and storage as well as transport time to be dropped dramatically which is probably as responsible for the better taste and cost as anything else.

Catwoman 05-16-2005 04:56 AM

Sometimes I come to a thread and realise jaguar has already written what I want to say - only better. So I don't write anything. Except I just wrote this. But that doesn't count.

Undertoad 05-16-2005 07:31 AM

You two should get together for a coffee drink.

not being sarcastic here for once

Catwoman 05-16-2005 08:05 AM

What is a coffee drink?

I've heard of drinks, and coffee. But the two together? A bit unecessary.

avoiding comment

Undertoad 05-16-2005 08:21 AM

It's just a way for two people in a busy world to get together and have a conversation for a half-hour with a pleasant beverage.

they could have a lager together but that seems like a deeper commitment, a capucchino is a half-hour and that's it

jaguar 05-16-2005 09:25 AM

I think it implies there are other types of coffee. Starbucks, undoubtedly not satisfied with bastardising normal coffee beyond recognition have probably created some kind of solid version over on the Dark Continent.

Largar leads to chips, chips (or crisps or whatever they call them here now) leads to largar and the whole viscious cycle leads to a kebab with chilli sauce at 3 in the morning in Peckham.

keeping the subscript theme going here

Undertoad 05-16-2005 09:32 AM

Naw, man, the French invented dark roast and latte and capuccino (or however that is spelt). It seems only America has perfected the social side of such a sophisticated beverage. If there is a better excuse for two people to chat each other up in person in your city, please tell us what it is.

and then take advantage of it

Catwoman 05-16-2005 09:36 AM

Italians have many different types of coffee. Cortado, machiatto, espresso... and did you know the plural for cappucino is cappucini?

scared and slightly confused

jaguar 05-16-2005 09:42 AM

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America has perfected the social side of such a sophisticated beverage.
.....they don't call it parisian cafe society for nothing. I assume you're being sarcastic. Damn the internet.

fear not grasshopper, a wise man once said the path to tranquility begins with small font sizes

Undertoad 05-16-2005 10:37 AM

Just think, if you got together for a baked brie sandwich and Orangina, you could discuss how dunderheaded I am.

very dunderheaded indeed

Gwennie! 05-16-2005 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Catwoman
Italians have many different types of coffee. Cortado, machiatto, espresso... and did you know the plural for cappucino is cappucini?

scared and slightly confused

There you go. Now you did it to me. You said the first thing that came to my mind with that french comment. I am of italian decent afterall.

There is a saying that Eskimos have dozens of names for snow. So is it for coffee in Italian. It fact, I'm going to go fire up my Gaggia right now.......

:coffee:

Gwennie! 05-16-2005 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by jaguar
I think it implies there are other types of coffee. Starbucks, undoubtedly not satisfied with bastardising normal coffee beyond recognition have probably created some kind of solid version over on the Dark Continent.

We drive past several Starbucks to get our Peet's. Discriminating SF Bay Area espresso drinkers love Peet's!

http://www.peets.com/

Dude111 07-20-2019 04:17 AM

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Originally Posted by cowhead
the best way I ever detoxed was taking a couple of gingerbaths and eating nothing but fruit and raw veggies, with a shot of cider vinegar every day and drinking nothing but green tea (all of course bought from either the farmers market or the local heathfood store)for 10 days. felt great afterwards.. then it was back to the re-toxifying.

I think the best way is to use MMS which I really want to do...

www.mms-supplement.com

Im believe I have damage to my immune system.. I have an auto immune disease I think was caused by this big pharma garbage!! (Vaccines -- They can fuck up your immune sytem)

Alot of people have had excellent results with it and I have been wanting to try it for months but havent gotton round to ordering any yet......

jaminhealth 10-10-2020 04:50 PM

Dude, I know you believe in MMS and I looked at it years ago but didn't jump on it...I do take MSM for many yrs though....and Grape Seed Extract for 25 yrs, how I'd be without , I don't want to know.

But vaccines are not in my health arsenal.

Dude111 10-11-2020 12:43 AM

Yup since I posted that reply I do have MMS now..... Its easy to mix and works quite well.........

I hear ya though........

Ibby 10-11-2020 01:02 AM

MMS as in.. bleach? that MMS?

Dude111 10-11-2020 01:06 AM

Its a light bleach compound........ They try to scare people into not using but when you know what it can do for you,you know why they are!!

xoxoxoBruce 10-11-2020 02:24 AM

And just how do you know what it can do for you?
An ad by some company trying to sell you something?
Some asshole on the internet says so? :eyebrow:

Quote:

The compound has been fraudulently marketed as an ingestible cure for a wide range of diseases, including childhood autism[6] and COVID-19.[7][8][9] Children who have been given enemas of chlorine dioxide as a supposed cure for childhood autism have suffered life-threatening ailments.[6] The U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) has stated that ingestion or other internal use of chlorine dioxide (other than perhaps oral rinsing under dentist supervision) has no health benefits and it should not be used internally for any reason.[10][11]

Clodfobble 10-11-2020 10:30 AM

I know a woman who gave it to her kid. Fucked him up. There are no miracle cures, and MMS is not good for you--and I say this as someone whose kids take far more supplements than even jamin does. Over-the-counter stuff can have legitimate value, but it has to be 1.) from a very reputable source, 2.) intended for a specific symptom of illness, not general "wellness," and 3.) constantly reassessed for the measurable improvements it may or may not provide. For everything that worked, there was another one that didn't do anything, and far, far more that we never even gave the time of day because it was unsubstantiated and reckless.

Gravdigr 10-11-2020 02:00 PM

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...enemas of chlorine dioxide...
Is this what they mean by 'anal bleaching'?

Not the time or place, I know, but I couldn't help it.

:p:


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