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staceyv 04-02-2005 11:17 AM

What does a hernia feel like?
 
My abs feel like I did 1,000 sit ups yesterday- but I didn't. I can't believe that kneading bread would give my abs such a workout, so now I'm thinking maybe I have a hernia or something. Maybe I'm just a hypochondriac, I don't know. That's why I'm asking...

Griff 04-02-2005 11:23 AM

I bet kneading bread could be pretty good for your abs. It might hurt if you haven't been doing anything else to tighten up.

staceyv 04-02-2005 11:25 AM

oh crap, forget it, I just looked it up myself (which I probably should've done in the first place) and realized that you need to have a lump, which I don't. My abs are killing me, though.
I guess I overworked myself in the kitchen. In the last 24 hours, I have made 3 loaves of homemade bread, french toast strata, brunch strata, cocnut lentil soup, mini pizzas, pot roast, 8 lbs of mashed potatoes, tartar sauce, sandwiches, nachos and homefries. Now I don't have to cook for a long time :) But damn, my abs are killing me.
Hey, if you want a great ab workout, just knead bread for at least 15 minutes.

One more thing, sorry but I am really hyperactive this week. I don't know if it's spring ( I have seasonal depression) or if it's just having a week off of work, or what, but I know I'm rambling and I'll try to stop. :)

Griff 04-02-2005 11:27 AM

Lots of broads get this way when they're nesting. :lol:

lookout123 04-02-2005 01:51 PM

you do not need to have a lump to have a hernia. a hernia is effetively a torn muscle that MAY be allowing your innards to squeeze through the opening. if it is a hernia the pain should be pretty localized and bulge slightly when you cough.

staceyv 04-02-2005 06:37 PM

I did the cough test- no bulge:)

LabRat 04-04-2005 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Griff
Lots of broads get this way when they're nesting. :lol:

we need a smiley of a 747 flying over a head... :D

(not for me, i get the referance to the april fools post)

staceyv 04-05-2005 03:53 PM

:help: Did something "go over my head?"

busterb 04-05-2005 06:58 PM

Yep

Trilby 04-06-2005 09:58 AM

Ya know what a hernia feels like? It feels like burning.

lookout123 04-06-2005 11:24 AM

hey Bri? burning? that is the clap. :eyebrow:

Trilby 04-07-2005 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by lookout123
hey Bri? burning? that is the clap. :eyebrow:

Nope, the clap is burning when you PEE. ;)

Catwoman 04-08-2005 08:14 AM

Core muscles, not just abs - the ones around your spine and pelvic floor. You need these just to stand up straight. But no one knows that which is why they get back pain/bad posture. It seems to me that you were kneading bread in the correct fashion which would cause the abdominal area to ache rather than the shoulders or lower back. Enjoy the pain! Stronger core here we come!

staceyv 04-08-2005 10:58 AM

thanks cat! It really was a simple muscle ache from over use, because it went away in 48 hours, just like when I used to work out. I should make homemade bread twice a week and I'll have kick-ass abs for summer!

mrnoodle 04-11-2005 10:30 AM

speaking of pain...i got a l33t case of back spasms on Thursday. Took me 45 minutes to get out of my chair at work and go to my car. wasn't able to take a full breath until 3 hours later, after i had a muscle relaxant. that there was some kick-ass pain. I completely sweated through all my clothes on the drive home. if I had hit a railroad track or pothole i would've keeled over and died right there.

Perry Winkle 04-11-2005 10:35 AM

I went for a checkup yesterday and my doctor found an umbilical hernia that I have to get repaired. I've never had any pain or anything that could be attributed to it. The doctor said I've probably had the hernia since birth. Even though it's 'nothing to worry about' and hasn't caused any problems I have to go under the knife to get it repaired June 1st.

glatt 04-11-2005 10:39 AM

You sound less than conviced, grant. Did you ask lots of questions/get a second opinion/research it independently? You are the boss of you. You don't have to do anything you don't want to (for the most part.)

wolf 04-11-2005 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by mrnoodle
speaking of pain...i got a l33t case of back spasms on Thursday. Took me 45 minutes to get out of my chair at work and go to my car. wasn't able to take a full breath until 3 hours later, after i had a muscle relaxant. that there was some kick-ass pain. I completely sweated through all my clothes on the drive home. if I had hit a railroad track or pothole i would've keeled over and died right there.

Not to appear panicky or anything ... but you should probably go see your cardiologist.

mrnoodle 04-11-2005 10:55 AM

That thought crossed my mind as well. But the location of the pain was definitely way below my heart, and didn't extend to my arms or neck or anything. My pulse was a bit high from the pain, but it was regular. I have a little history with back problems (starting, oddly, with some knee injuries I had in my teens), and I'm pretty sure this was a messed up disc/nerve from poor posture.

Still, thanks for the heads-up. I just turned 35, so I'm due for a full-blown checkup. I think I'll call this week or next.

BigV 04-11-2005 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by grant
--snip--an umbilical hernia that I have to get repaired.--snip--

Me too. Well, in the past tense, like a couple of years ago. There was pain for me, but very clearly on or off, not just "ooh, that hurts", but nothing, then "OUCH". I could easily see the bulge, about the size of an apricot, at my bellybutton when it was hurting, and I could push it back in and the pain would go away. I think the pain was less from the insides being messed with but more about the hole being stretched by my big fat guts poking out. I guess if I wore my pants like Steve Erkle I could have let my belt buckle take care of it indefinitely, but that was not an option.

The procedure was done in the doctor's office outpatient style. I got instructions not to eat or drink past midnight and then in the morning I got a ride to the doctor (no driving afterward), and I laid down and got the local application of novocaine or whatever. Then he made the incision, and stuffed a wad of polypropolyne mesh/gauze the size of the end of my thumb into the area and sewed it to the surrounding tissue.

Previously, the recommended treatment was to stitch the hole together threading flesh to flesh. Well, it turns out that the thread would many times pull through the needle hole and the problem would be back--a hole. This new strategy actually fills the hole with the mesh and then anchors the mesh to many more points than the old version. You get the idea.

A word of caution. The procedure itself was pain-less. Thanks to the miracle of modern pharmaceuticals, I walked in and I walked out. I was tender afterward and got a prescription for the pain and instructions that for the next two weeks I was to lift nothing heavier than a fork. The pain meds from the pharmacy came with instructions to take one every four hours. Well, I was tired when I got home so I went to bed.

I fell asleep on my back, very comfortable, and woke some time later and really had to pee. I rolled onto my side and carefully levered myself up with my arms, not my stomach, and stood up. So far so good. I got to about the end of the bed before I started to gray out from the pain. I collapsed to the floor. It hurt so bad, I thought I was gonna die, and I was afraid I wouldn't. Oh, my God. I needed help, and my daughter was in the house and I tried to call for her, but anything above a whisper was tooooo much for my belly. I got her attention by pounding on the floor and calling the best I could. Bless her heart, she helped me crawl to the bathroom.

I had slept about six hours, well past the remedication point in my condition. I can see now that I was just as injured in bed at home as I was 7 hours earlier in the doctor's office. But then I had all those really wonderful chemicals perking through my bloodstream, and my belly, though hurting, was unable to get the message through to my brain. Truly, a miracle.

So the moral of the story is Take Your Medicine. Have someone wake you if necessary. Time your trips to the toilet so they happen when you can stand and walk. Trust them (and me) on that part about the fork.

wolf 04-12-2005 12:01 AM

My mother had an umbilical hernia repair that is the one that should serve as a warning of the worst-case surgical risks.

To be fair, her protrusion was quite huge ... about the size of a softball, or possibly even a good sized cantelope. The size of it, my mother's advanced age, and her poor cardiac condition put her at risk, but the benefits of the surgery were thought to outweigh that ...

Yeah, right.

The surgeon screwed up somewhere along the way, perforated her colon, realized it, and stitched things back up ...

Unfortunately my mother ended up with multiple infections as a consequence of this ... including E. Coli and Staph. She returend to the hospital for an extra 16 days of IV antibiotic treatment.

Brett's Honey 04-12-2005 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by mrnoodle
But the location of the pain was definitely way below my heart, and didn't extend to my arms or neck or anything.

Like wolf, I don't want to appear panicky or cause any unnecessary panic, but I do know of someone who suffered extreme back pain that was caused by a tear in the aorta. He died within hours, (no panic here!) so that is probably not your problem, but don't put off having that check-up!

staceyv 04-13-2005 02:01 AM

That's scary. You know what's even scarier? The doctors are way too burned out to give a shit. About 2 1/2 years ago, I started having severe back spasms. I couldn't even get up- I couldn't even lay on my side in bed- I had to lay flat on my back. The slightest cough or movement would sent me into spasms that were so bad that I was afraid to get up to go pee or get a drink of water. I was really nervous that there was something awfully wrong with me, so I went to the emergency room. I sat in the waiting room for two hours, then saw the doctor- who simply felt my back for a second, said it seemed normal and told me I was probably having muscle cramps and sent me on my way. How did he KNOW that I didn't have a ripped aorta? I think he just didn't give a shit.

mrnoodle 04-13-2005 12:04 PM

with the rheum. arthritis, i'm constantly being prescribed different medicines trying to get the pain and swelling under control, so who knows what kind of reaction my heart has been having? also, the RA interferes with my ability to play guitar, so occasionally I partake of an herbal remedy an hour or two before practice/gigs. Just enough to loosen the fingers and make it not hurt to play. That, plus cigarettes. Oh yeah, and I never met a fried food I didn't like. Then there's single-malt scotch and the occasional bottle of zin. I should have the strongest heart on the planet -- i give it plenty to do.

wolf 04-13-2005 12:21 PM

Noodle, just had another thought ... did the pain start about, oooh. couple hours after lunch, and was there any belching involved?

mrnoodle 04-13-2005 12:32 PM

no, it started in the restroom when I leaned over to wash my hands. A slight twinge that made me go "uh oh, I'm going to have to go see a back-cracker." Then a little later, after slouching in my office chair for about an hour, WHAM.

Trilby 04-13-2005 02:59 PM

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