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BrianR 12-23-2001 07:45 AM

Okay, new question for dog people (cat people skip this)
 
I am looking for a new dog and for once I'm not going to go potluck at the pound. I now have criteria.

To wit:

friendly
territorial
small (<20 lbs)
intelligent
trainable easily
attractive (I can be flexible on this)
playful character
no complicated grooming rituals (brushing okay but cannot deal with long hair a la Afghan Hound)

Any ideas? I'm really looking at a rare breed the Alaskan Klee Kai (K2 for short). The Klee Kai (different breed lacking the "bandit mask" markings) is also acceptable since I want a companion dog and not a breeder.

I will have a yard for the dog to run off excess energy but no fence so dogs with strong prey instincts are right out. Wildlife abounds near my new home.

Peace

Brian

vsp 12-24-2001 09:44 AM

If I had to give a (biased) recommendation...
 
...look for a Shetland Sheepdog (Sheltie, Miniature Collie).

(The "biased" reference is because I've had two of them myself.)

Shelties are small-to-medium-sized, quite manageable (more so than the full Collie). They are a highly intelligent breed, and very loyal to their owners and family. Shelties love to run and play, and have no compunctions about sticking their noses into whatever it is you're doing.

They're quite attractive (to me, anyway) and require no unusual grooming (good brushings and general hygiene do nicely).

Shelties bond quite heavily with their adoptive families; if they sense that their owners are being physically threatened, they'll get hyper and bark quite a bit. (In other words, if the dog spazzes out when visiting Aunt Myrtle gives you a big bear hug, don't be surprised.) It tends much more heavily towards "bark and dance" than to "jump and attack" in these circumstances, thankfully. If they grow up around people and get a lot of attention, they should get along fine with strangers and/or visiting kids under most circumstances. They do love friendly attention -- their first impulse when confronted by a stranger is to be friendly unless they detect something amiss.

Many Shelties bark a lot, and they tend to be on the energetic side. There are exceptions -- my second Sheltie was extremely laid-back and easy-going. My first ran laps around the dining-room table and barked whenever anyone entered or left via the front door, and actually wore a path in its fenced-in yard from years of running laps out there. Your mileage may vary.

As far as the prey thing goes, Shelties are quite territorial, and will gladly bark at and/or chase away critters that get too close. One of mine caught a rabbit once, but only once, and it was a rabbit that had a suicidal fixation on hopping through the fence into the dog's yard. It tempted fate once too often. When confronted by an animal (big or small), its usual modus operandi is to bark its head off, and the average critter will vamoose accordingly.

I've never had one unfenced, so I'd look into that, but they're smart enough that I'm sure they can be trained to know where "home" is.

jeff. Sounds like a good match, but use your own judgement.

Nic Name 01-01-2002 03:48 AM

Jack Russell Terrier ... think "Eddie" on Frasier.

http://www.akc.org/breeds/recbreeds/jrt.cfm

http://www.terrier.com/

Undertoad 01-01-2002 09:28 AM

There's also a breed selector at

http://selectsmart.com/DOG/

It seems reasonable enough.

Nic Name 01-04-2002 08:03 AM

http://opampbooks.com/dog.gif

Whatever breed, get a dog that shares your interests.

Undertoad 01-04-2002 09:21 AM

On the Internet, nobody knows you're a dog.

dave 01-04-2002 09:25 AM

hahahahahaha. That was Tony's perfect quip for the day :)

warch 01-04-2002 09:47 AM

rrrrrrufff. *tail wags, nose cold and wet*

Nic Name 01-04-2002 09:48 AM

http://nuweb.jinr.ru/~koval/dog.gif

BrianR 01-07-2002 01:48 PM

Sorry, I won't get a 'net hound either. I don't share my computer with anyone else, much less a dog.

Jack Russells are great dogs but have too much energy for me to keep up.
And they're known to destroy an apartment if you leave them for "too long".

I'm also thinking about a Basset Hound. Nice and slow, couch potato, friendly but must be trained to not bark so much.

Brian

Griff 01-07-2002 02:07 PM

Bassetts are cool, no beagles though you won't be able to stop the barking. You definitely don't want my new dog but our old mutt would be perfect, she's a lab/spaniel mix real sweet and quiet. Have you looked at older dogs? My new dogs an australian shepard... he is mental and needs constant supervision.

Undertoad 01-07-2002 02:09 PM

Bassets are not all that trainable, but if all you need them to do is not jump up on visitors, they can learn that.

Not trainable like border collies, who can be trained to make your morning tea with exactly the right amount of sugar.

Griff 01-07-2002 02:14 PM

Ausies only make coffee,.... buckets and buckets of coffee, kinda like when the mouse played the wizards apprentice.

Nic Name 01-09-2002 01:24 AM

You know you want one.
 
http://www.sonystyle.com/vaio/images/aibo/menace_4.jpg

Here boy. Here, AIBO

BrianR 01-14-2002 01:23 PM

"Bob" has spoken
 
I get potluck again.


This time I am the owner of an American Pit Bull Terrier that I found under my trailer.

He's cute, loveable (except when he pees on my rug/bed/clothes/whatever) and a babe magnet.

I'd forgotten how much work housebreaking is since I haven't done it for twenty years or so.
I'm starting with paper training in the bathroom and working up from there.

The pup is only ten weeks old or so and I have to allow for a small bladder and an excitable nature.

Picture when I get film in my camera.

Brian

PS no name yet. I want to see more of his personality yet.

dave 01-14-2002 01:26 PM

Heh. I named one of my rats "Bob". He's got the best personality of all of 'em, too. For some reason, "Bob" just seems like a good name - generic, sure. But I've noticed that animals tend to grow into their names. Or maybe it's that our mind grows around their names. Regardless, I think "Bob" is a cool, semi-cute name for a pet. It just works.

Undertoad 01-14-2002 06:54 PM

A very special, secret way to help the housebreaking along with a new male puppy: you simply show him where to go. He wants to go where the pack goes, so make sure he sees and smells you going there. I'd wait until dusk at least, but.. your call.

In the meantime, that "Nature's Miracle" is a must-have. "Simple Solution" is the same idea. It's an enzyme, and it cleans up pee, perfectly.

Nic Name 01-14-2002 07:25 PM

If that were true, most dogs would use the toilet. ;)

BrianR 01-15-2002 10:23 AM

Howcum... I am not getting credit for my posts?

I just noticed that I have 57 posts for some time now and all my posts have the
same number? Am I just not good enough of a poster to notice or what?

Brian

dave 01-15-2002 10:39 AM

a search for all your posts only shows 58. I dunno. Maybe you're mistaken?

BrianR 01-16-2002 04:28 PM

I thought I made a mistake once, but I was wrong.
 
The counter that numbers my posts was to blame. When I logged on today, yesterday's post (#57)
was renumbered, as were the last four (also #57) yesterday.

I blame Undertoad for spending too much time on his "life" and not enough time here.

Smile

Brian

Griff 01-16-2002 07:41 PM

A friend of mine had a red nosed american pitbull terrier, same dog? He was extemely loyal and once tree'd a guy who was running from the cops. He was actually more of a cop magnet than a chick magnet though, since nobody "without anything to hide" would own such a dog. They can be very hard on other dogs cats etc.. so be forwarned.

warch 01-17-2002 09:55 AM

I took care of a neighbor's bull mastif pup for a week (at her house, never again) - actually a young adult with puppy behavior. A muscle dog. scared the bejesus outta me and all other life forms within a 3 block radius. That thing was so strong and didn't know it. He wanted to play, I wanted body armor. And his jaw, my God, his jaw...I hear bulls can be kind, sweet, but theyre built to tear your face off.

dave 01-17-2002 09:57 AM

Quote:

built to tear your face off
I won't post the picture, but <b>yes they are, and they will</b>. If you plan on having kids or anything that you want to live past 3-4 years, I wouldn't recommend anything other than a nice gentle dog.

Undertoad 01-17-2002 12:37 PM

Fine, I'll post the picture.

http://cellar.org/2002/pearlmouth.jpg

Be afraid.

dave 01-17-2002 12:39 PM

While that one is funny, the one I was referring to (you've probably seen it if you make it a point to check out stuff like "vomit lunch" and "steak and cheese") is by far the most gruesome thing I've ever seen. But thanks for the funny dog picture. :) Is that one of yours?

Undertoad 01-17-2002 12:47 PM

Yes, this is Pearl. A mis-marked Boston Terrier.

Pearl may make the IotD soon, as she got hives, and it was weird but enlightening.

dave 01-17-2002 12:53 PM

She chewing on a piece of wood or what?

Man, that pic cracks me up :) Woulda been a great Friday image :)

Undertoad 01-17-2002 01:37 PM

It's actually a fake bone made out of some hard plastic. She has sharpened all of the ends and made a weapon out of it.

Boston terriers are only half bulldog, so they are bold and tenacious but their jaws are not so powerful. But once in a while we feed our two raw chicken wings (dogs can eat raw chicken and can only digest bones if they're raw). And they crush the bones pretty easily.

dave 01-17-2002 02:07 PM

Well, if I am reincarnated as a chicken, I'll keep that in mind :)


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