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crossfire 11-03-2004 11:17 AM

People who piss you off
 
What are some things that people do to piss you off. On the top of my list are the ones who don't use car signals :mad:

Cyber Wolf 11-03-2004 11:49 AM

"I-told-you-so"ers. If someone says something will happen and it happens, there's no need for them to waste time going "See? I TOLD you" in as many ways there are to say it as there are people.

jaguar 11-03-2004 12:09 PM

People that ignore their kids crying on busses, planes, net cafes or any other enclosed public space. On planes it's grounds for justifiable homocide.

Are you ok?? I just put a goddamn carving knife though my finger WHAT DO YOU THINK??

People that think they have a god-given right to ram their way though a massively overcrowded train to take a seat that is much nearer someone more deserving. Being under 30 and in a suit moves this from annoying to justification for standing on shoes with combat boots.

crossfire 11-03-2004 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jaguar
People that ignore their kids crying on busses, planes, net cafes or any other enclosed public space. On planes it's grounds for justifiable homocide.

Haha, that's funny, yet it should be, you're right. How about people who, when making a purchase, throw a credit card down or throw down a higher bill like they think that the card or the bill has been given the Midas touch. What I mean by a higher bill is like a 10 if the total is under 10, 20, if the bill is under 20, 50, if the bill is under fifty. If you lost me with the higher bills, just think about the credit card. What I do is hope that the credit card will be declined, so they have to take the time to search for another one. It just seems as though they are lazy enough not even to hand the card to the cashier. They just throw it down and sometimes wait unpatiently for the receipt to sign. This may just happen to me, if you can follow it. If you can't, well, I just embarressed myself. :o

Trilby 11-03-2004 12:55 PM

Republicans and the white masters they serve.

Troubleshooter 11-03-2004 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Brianna
Republicans and the white masters they serve.

What, exactly, is that supposed to mean.

Now if you'd said green I would understand.

wolf 11-03-2004 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Brianna
Republicans and the white masters they serve.

Everybody always forgets I'm a Democrat (yes, dreaded crossover voter, me).

And according to the conspiracy, aren't the Republicans supposed to BE the white masters??

Bri, you know that I like you and care for you and will certainly help you through this difficult time of adjustment.

Things today are just the same as things yesterday. You made it to today, tomorrow shouldn't be that big a trick either.

Trilby 11-03-2004 01:54 PM

yes, I know. I just really wanted to feel--I dunno, good about this country. How could UT say that about my kids?

Thanks. I like you very much, too.

dar512 11-03-2004 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by jaguar
On planes it's grounds for justifiable homocide.

While I too want to throttle people who have kids and then don't pay any attention to them, kids (at least little kids) on planes is a whole other thing.

We flew a lot with our kids when they were little. We lived in Seattle and the grandparents lived in St. Louis. It's a 4.5 hour flight.

The problem is that kids are susceptible to changes in air pressure as much as adults -- maybe more so. But you can't tell babies how to clear their ears. They can't chew gum. Once you've given them tylenol, there's not a whole lot more that you can do. Their ears hurt. You can comfort them, but they're going to cry.

Now if the kid is seven and annoying everyone within ten seats, I consider it a gift to your fellow passengers to bind and gag the brat.

warch 11-03-2004 05:16 PM

Missionaries. Boil the muthas.

perth 11-03-2004 05:44 PM

The problem with questions like this is that it implies that there are people who don't piss me off.

FloridaDragon 11-03-2004 06:56 PM

will probably piss off half of you that have these - but too bad... :D

how about the new walkie talkie phones (not sure if they are only Nextel or what)? As if the general use of a phone in a public setting was not annoying enough (look how important I am, I can disturb all of you because talking on the phone is more important than all of you combined)...now you add a loud chirp between exchanges and pipe it all over a speakerphone so you can now hear BOTH sides of the conversation...

I keep saying I am going to go over and join in on the conversation and when the person complains it is a private conversation, then I can yell THEN HAVE IT PRIVATELY! Haven't done it yet because there is generally enough rudeness in the world already and if I end up punching them out I will go to jail with my luck.

ok.... I am ranting...

FD

dar512 11-03-2004 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by warch
Missionaries. Boil the muthas.

I dunno. The people who brought you the position of the same name can't be all bad.

plthijinx 11-03-2004 09:44 PM

houston traffic. there are a few roads here that i just plain LOATHE. hwy 6 for example. the posted speed is 50 and everyone, no matter what time it is or how many people are on that road it seems, can only do 35mph. and of course it goes without saying that i always manage to get behind the s-l-o-w-e-s-t driver on that road.

then there's always the obvious: my ex-wife.

wolf 11-04-2004 12:52 AM

Nextels
 
I don't have one of the damn things. I think they are clunky, too expensive, and annoying in just the way described above.

However, I sometimes have to use one at work. I don't need to carry it, or interact with it much, but we have one in the Commitment Office so we can contact the ambulance crew ... some of them have nextels supplied by the hospital, but the wacker community got them first and so many of them are personal phones of the crew members.

It's bad enough that I have to carry a pager ... but I will not give my employer my cell phone number. I do not need to be THAT available.

Beyond the annoying in public places aspect, the main problem that I have with the Nextel walkie-talkie service is that the sound quality is horrible ... worse than the average cellphone. If you're dealing with someone who ordinarily speaks V-E-R-Y S-L-O-W-L-Y A-N-D C-L-E-A-R-L-Y you're okay, but foreign accent, or tendency to mumble, forget it.

There are folks that we'll lie to and tell them that the signal is bad, please call on the landline.

There are also folks in my department that the ambulance crew can't understand, so they call on the landline and ask to talk to me, even if it's this other person's case.

Roosta 11-04-2004 07:31 AM

Well, it was almost written in stone that the first post would be about driving. I hate everything about everybody else when i'm in a car. People who drive slowly, dawdle along in a daydream, take time turning, stop without warning, drive in my tailgate, fog lights in good weather, no signals, lights on full beam, sitting in the middle lane. need I continue?
Oh yeah, and anything to do with banks.

Troubleshooter 11-04-2004 08:13 AM

I'm thinking about getting one of these:

http://www.globalgadgetuk.com/P51100205.JPG

Cell Phone Jammer

glatt 11-04-2004 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Roosta
Well, it was almost written in stone that the first post would be about driving. I hate everything about everybody else when i'm in a car. People who drive slowly, dawdle along in a daydream, take time turning, stop without warning, drive in my tailgate, fog lights in good weather, no signals, lights on full beam, sitting in the middle lane. need I continue?
Oh yeah, and anything to do with banks.

Try being a pedestrian around cars. All drivers, all of them, including each one of you reading this right now, think that pedestrians have no right to cross the street. Ever. Even in a cross walk with a walk signal in their favor. You will, of course, protest that you yield to pedestrians when you are supposed to. But you don't. You just don't realize it. You do it subconciously.

OnyxCougar 11-04-2004 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Roosta
fog lights in good weather

My car is manufactured so that I have no choice. If my engine is running and the emergency brake is off, my fog lights are on. So nyah.

Cyber Wolf 11-04-2004 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by glatt
Try being a pedestrian around cars. All drivers, all of them, including each one of you reading this right now, think that pedestrians have no right to cross the street. Ever. Even in a cross walk with a walk signal in their favor. You will, of course, protest that you yield to pedestrians when you are supposed to. But you don't. You just don't realize it. You do it subconciously.

Ahh see, this is where you're wrong. As for me, if they're crossing on the their green or WALK sign, then they can cross as much as they please but they'd better out of the way when it's my turn to move. They can cross the street as much as they like as long as they don't step out in front of my car. However, those who cross in the middle of the block are fair game.:D

glatt 11-04-2004 10:05 AM

I would respectfully disagree. You do it subconsiously and don't realize you do it. You only stop for a pedestrian if the only alternative is to run them over. If they are trying to cross the street, and are in the crosswalk, but are not directly in front of you, you don't stop for them. Also, if you have a green light, but are turning, and a pedestrian is in the crosswalk with a walk signal, you don't stop for them unless you are about to run over them.

You will disagree. But you are wrong. ALL drivers do this, including you.

Car drivers always force pedestrians into a game of chicken, when the pedestrian will only be yeilded to if a failure to yield to the pedestrian will cause the death of the pedestrian and imprisonment of the driver.

The only exception is when there is a red light for the car. But then the car is stopping for the red light, not for the pedestrian.

Cyber Wolf 11-04-2004 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by glatt
I would respectfully disagree. You do it subconsiously and don't realize you do it. You only stop for a pedestrian if the only alternative is to run them over. If they are trying to cross the street, and are in the crosswalk, but are not directly in front of you, you don't stop for them. Also, if you have a green light, but are turning, and a pedestrian is in the crosswalk with a walk signal, you don't stop for them unless you are about to run over them.

You will disagree. But you are wrong. ALL drivers do this, including you.

Car drivers always force pedestrians into a game of chicken, when the pedestrian will only be yeilded to if a failure to yield to the pedestrian will cause the death of the pedestrian and imprisonment of the driver.

The only exception is when there is a red light for the car. But then the car is stopping for the red light, not for the pedestrian.

You think what you will. Only I know what's going on in my head. :)

wolf 11-04-2004 11:57 AM

Regarding Pedestrian v. Car ...

My sister lives in Rhode Island. Seems that they have a very stern law there about yielding to pedestrians.

No exceptions, harsh penalties.

People will lock up their brakes and get rear ended rather than risk not yielding to a pedestrian.

I was even patiently waiting to cross a street (in the middle, rather than at a crosswalk. I learned to cross streets in Phila, and that's just how it's done) and knew that there was a nice break in traffic coming within about 30-40 seconds. Drivers on BOTH SIDES of the street stopped their cars and waved me across.

I was flabbergasted.

How do they deal with natural selection in that state? Slow stupid walkers survive to breed in that environment ...

Oh, yeah, and the other thing that blew me away ... if you're entering the highway, the people in the right hand land move over or slow down to let you on safely. What is that about? Merging is like a game of chicken, isn't it?

Cyber Wolf 11-04-2004 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by wolf
Merging is like a game of chicken, isn't it?

Not if 1) you have a vehicle that will adequately accelerate and 2) you know how to merge.

Unfortunately, there's a lot of people (around here at least) simply don't know how, and figure merging onto highway traffic that's going highway speed or faster involves slowing down in the acceleration lane, which does nothing but force the people behind you who are speeding up to slam on their brakes and possibly swerve into the highway traffic at inadequate speed. Obvious exception is when there's gridlock and no one is moving very fast.

As for me, I am at or above posted highway speed and on the highway itself long before the acceleration lane ends. It's not difficult. Really it's not.

wolf 11-04-2004 12:12 PM

You haven't driven much in PA, have you ... driving is entirely different here.

Oh, and we often don't have accelleration lanes. RAMP-HIGHWAY. No glide in. Some of the entries are sufficiently dangerous that you have to come to a complete stop before entering the highway. Talk about a challenge. 0-65 in 2 seconds, or you're dead.

Bondo on the doors is a sign of courage.

jinx 11-04-2004 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Cyber Wolf
acceleration lane

Ha! Acceleration lanes are for pussies.

Clodfobble 11-04-2004 12:30 PM

Unfortunately, there's a lot of people (around here at least) simply don't know how, and figure merging onto highway traffic that's going highway speed or faster involves slowing down in the acceleration lane, which does nothing but force the people behind you who are speeding up to slam on their brakes and possibly swerve into the highway traffic at inadequate speed. Obvious exception is when there's gridlock and no one is moving very fast.

I always just come to a complete stop at the bottom of the entrance ramp if I think I'm behind a person of this driving caliber. That way I have all the room I want to accelerate properly, once his ass finally gets onto the highway.

Cyber Wolf 11-04-2004 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by wolf
You haven't driven much in PA, have you ... driving is entirely different here.

No I haven't. To be honest, I only drive in PA for the first time this past summer, once going to Philly and again a couple of weeks later on the way to CT. I didn't have any trouble driving in PA. Hartford-area, CT on the other hand...

breakingnews 11-04-2004 12:45 PM

Try the surprise of an out-of-towner trying to negotiate a Jersey jughandle for the first time.

An old girlfriend of mine, who is from the St. Louis area, nearly crashed my car and killed us when she just had no clue how to enter or drive through a jughandle. I had to laugh at her lack of adaptability. How are they teaching ppl to drive out there?

Oh, on that note, I dislike people who:
- Do not follow the 'wipers on, lights on' guideline that is now law in a handful of states
- Suggest going (or tag along) to bars and restuarants that are out of their price range and either sit there and not order anything, or skimp on tax/tip and force others to cover in order to save face

I have more. Must think of them when I am not working.

wolf 11-04-2004 01:01 PM

Jughandles, no problem. It's the traffic circles you have to watch out for.

And driving through PA, staying on the turnpike or some other interstate, just really doesn't give you the full flavor ...

You have to get on and off some of the state roads, or one of the roads that's only referred to by name, but only officially identified by number on the signs ...

flippant 11-04-2004 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by glatt
I would respectfully disagree. You do it subconsiously and don't realize you do it. You only stop for a pedestrian if the only alternative is to run them over. If they are trying to cross the street, and are in the crosswalk, but are not directly in front of you, you don't stop for them. Also, if you have a green light, but are turning, and a pedestrian is in the crosswalk with a walk signal, you don't stop for them unless you are about to run over them.

You will disagree. But you are wrong. ALL drivers do this, including you.

Car drivers always force pedestrians into a game of chicken, when the pedestrian will only be yeilded to if a failure to yield to the pedestrian will cause the death of the pedestrian and imprisonment of the driver.

The only exception is when there is a red light for the car. But then the car is stopping for the red light, not for the pedestrian.




I do not even do this subconsciously. I have a basic respect for human life pedestrian or not. I drive slower when there are a lot of pedestrians in the area. In the eyes of the law if you hit them you are at fault. It would feel awful to clip them even if they weren't in a crosswalk. A lot of my car safety comes from riding bicycles, motorbikes, mopeds, and of course being a pedestrian and driver with common sense. Honk Honk. Get off the road. :D

marichiko 11-04-2004 01:11 PM

Driving is learned by doing, like anything else. I am a firm believer in the "outta-my-way I'm getting on the damn interstate" technique, myself. This involves accelerating to 90mph and cutting across all lanes of traffic to achieve the far left lane within 5 seconds from start to finish of manuever. One then remains in the far left lane traveling at top speed for as long as one is forced to travel the stretch of interstate, leaving it as soon as humanly possible. I am a firm advocate of back roads, preferably unpaved ones. Following dry stream beds into the wilds is best of all.

Cyber Wolf 11-04-2004 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by marichiko
I am a firm believer in the "outta-my-way I'm getting on the damn interstate" technique, myself. This involves accelerating to 90mph and cutting across all lanes of traffic to achieve the far left lane within 5 seconds from start to finish of manuever. One then remains in the far left lane traveling at top speed for as long as one is forced to travel the stretch of interstate, leaving it as soon as humanly possible.

Ohhh you're one of those fun drivers. We should get together and own a highway sometime! :D


Going back to people who piss me off: People who shove down your throat the fact they're soon going a 3-week vacation to somewhere warm, sunny and lazy just as the standard cold, wet and nasty winter weather starts to settle in. Now, 'scuse me, I'm gonna strangle my co-worker with my phone cord.

dar512 11-04-2004 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by breakingnews
An old girlfriend of mine, who is from the St. Louis area, nearly crashed my car and killed us when she just had no clue how to enter or drive through a jughandle.

What in the heck is a jughandle? -- Also from St. Louis.

staceyv 11-04-2004 03:23 PM

people that ask me a question and then don't believe me when I tell them the answer. What, do they think, I just pulled it out of my ass? What did they ask me for if they don't trust my answer????

Cyber Wolf 11-04-2004 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by dar512
What in the heck is a jughandle? -- Also from St. Louis.

You may know it as the loops of a cloverleaf... they're the sweeping loops in those big interstate entrance/exit ramps.

...unless that's a Jersey term that just totally passed me by.

xoxoxoBruce 11-04-2004 07:17 PM

Nope, jug handles go the opposite way.
If you're approaching a cross street where you want to make a left, you get in the right lane and just before the cross street you make a right turn on the jug handle. It arcs left to the cross street where you make a left then cross the street you were originally on, at the light. :crazy:

crossfire 11-04-2004 09:31 PM

Nextels
 
I work at a company that relies on the walkie talkie feature and yes, i believe it is only nextel that does the walkie talkie thing. The advantage of the walkie talkie thing is you don't have to necessarily wait for someone to pick up and call you back, but it is rather annoying, both conversations and the chirps

zippyt 11-04-2004 11:19 PM

Meargeing , try driveing a 65000 lb truck , 2 ways to do it ,
1) slowly and carefully watching for traffic ,
2) i weigh more than you so I go were i want when i want ( the i will squach you like a bug if you get in my way MOTHER FUCKER !!!!)

people that anoy me , well the number and scope of FUCKTARDS in the world that piss me off boggle the mind , but i try HARD to go by this saying " Never argue with an idiot , They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experence "


Breath Zippyt , BREATH !!!!!!!! Its all good !!!! Go to your happy place ....

Dagney 11-05-2004 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by crossfire
I work at a company that relies on the walkie talkie feature and yes, i believe it is only nextel that does the walkie talkie thing. The advantage of the walkie talkie thing is you don't have to necessarily wait for someone to pick up and call you back, but it is rather annoying, both conversations and the chirps

Actually, it's not just Nextel - the patent on the technology is up, and a number of other carriers with GPS/GPRS service are starting to test the technology in certain markets.

So, the chirping phones from hell will be everywhere.

Cyber Wolf 11-05-2004 06:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce
Nope, jug handles go the opposite way.
If you're approaching a cross street where you want to make a left, you get in the right lane and just before the cross street you make a right turn on the jug handle. It arcs left to the cross street where you make a left then cross the street you were originally on, at the light. :crazy:

Oh THOSE. Wow, I was way off the mark there. We know them down here as 'fly-over' ramps.

jaguar 11-05-2004 06:58 AM

On the pedesterian thing - one of the thing about london I like is that we (pedesterians) win by sheer numbers, when people start crossing on a busy saturday on oxford street it doesn't make any damn difference if the lights change, people will just keep crossing and there is nothing the traffic can do. Of course the near-constant virtual gridlock in the inner city makes it easy enough to cross anyway.

Babies should not be allowed on planes. If they are, they should be in small soundproof boxes with their parents. I've done a couple of 20+ hour flights with screaming kids, it shouldn't be allowed under the human rights act.

breakingnews 11-05-2004 09:06 AM

Funny - you'd think pedestrians would win here in NYC, but I'll be damned if any cab or truck driver ever stopped to let a woman with a baby stroller cross the street.

Other people who piss me off - folks who insist on doing dumb things in crowded, tightly packed spaces. Here in NYC, I just want to scream when I see things like ... someone riding a bike outside of the bike/run lane in Central Park during rush-hour traffic (extremely crowded) not wearing a helmet and using one hand to TALK ON A FUCKING CELL PHONE. During the summer, I was riding in a fast-moving paceline (about 20 mph) along the edge of the bike lane/in the left-hand car lane, when I saw a girl doing this. Of course she hit a rut, swerved and nearly took out a whole mess of riders/runners with cabs flying past at 50 mph.

And of course this happened again a few weeks later, except this guy was riding IN THE WRONG DIRECTION. I moved over and headed straight at him, and gave him the finger before swerving out of the way; he lost control and dropped his cell phone to grab the handlebars. His phone was crushed by another biker. The end justifies the means, eh?

Other instances include: a guy on a bike using one arm to tow a girl on rollerblades (who clearly was not very good at skating), taking up a sizeable portion of a very crowded West Side walkway on Sunday afternoon; a guy with a baby stroller running outside of the running lane (in the car lane) IN THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION during rush-hour traffic.

flippant 11-05-2004 10:41 AM

I saw a guy the other day that was too hip to carry his baby with 2 arms. He looked like he was carrying a sack lunch. When does "cool" cease to be cool anyway? This brings me to my point. Some people are just too hip and need to examine reality a little more closely. I don't like people completely immersed in pop culture and this (so called) modern age. Making cool look ridiculously stupid. I think most of the above statements apply to this message.

perth 11-05-2004 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by flippant
I saw a guy the other day that was too hip to carry his baby with 2 arms. He looked like he was carrying a sack lunch.

Wait. What? I don't think I'm understanding this statement. I carry my kid with one arm all the time, but there's no way that could appear to be carrying a sack lunch. How exactly does that work?

dar512 11-05-2004 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce
Nope, jug handles go the opposite way.
If you're approaching a cross street where you want to make a left, you get in the right lane and just before the cross street you make a right turn on the jug handle. It arcs left to the cross street where you make a left then cross the street you were originally on, at the light. :crazy:

Ok then. Well this explains the problem that Breakingnews' girlfriend from St. Louis had. See in St. Louis, they have civil engineers that aren't on crack. So we have come to expect a certain level of, well, sanity in street and highway design. Running into the insane when you're not expecting it tends to throw people off.

dar512 11-05-2004 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jaguar
Babies should not be allowed on planes. If they are, they should be in small soundproof boxes with their parents. I've done a couple of 20+ hour flights with screaming kids, it shouldn't be allowed under the human rights act.

Interesting pov, jag. PM me when you have kids of your own. We'll see if you still feel this way.

BTW, where do you fly that takes 20+ hours? Do you personally have to flap your wings? :whofart:

jaguar 11-05-2004 01:10 PM

London-Melbourne, usually with a 1 hour stopover in Dubai or Singapore (or both) is 22 hours or so. Sometimes you can get off in the stopovers, sometimes not, depends on route and airlines. Emirates are usually reasonable, Singapore are fairly good, others vary. I've done that flight a lot of times.

You'll be waiting a very long time for that PM, the sun will expand and swallow the earth in a firey demise first to be exact. If you can't keep your offspring under control you shouldn't be allowed to inflict them on innocent bystanders.

dar512 11-05-2004 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by jaguar
If you can't keep your offspring under control you shouldn't be allowed to inflict them on innocent bystanders.

I agree on that one -- and said so earlier. But you can't reason with babies that haven't learned to talk yet.

crossfire 11-05-2004 01:25 PM

babies in airplanes
 
While crying babies will piss people off, they've got to deal with it, maybe by earphones or something.

plthijinx 11-05-2004 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flippant
I saw a guy the other day that was too hip to carry his baby with 2 arms. He looked like he was carrying a sack lunch.

oh yeah, that reminds me, the other day i saw a mother carrying her infant under arm. the kid was in obvious pain by the way she was holding him. oh, yeah, she was talking on her cell phone too and talking to a friend walking with her.

crossfire 11-05-2004 01:45 PM

THAT WOULD MOST CERTAINLY PISS ME OFF!!!

flippant 11-05-2004 02:04 PM

I really don't want to have to explain that metaphor. I think you know the difference between complete carelessness and an appropriate (painless) method. (perth)

perth 11-05-2004 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flippant
I really don't want to have to explain that metaphor. I think you know the difference between complete carelessness and an appropriate (painless) method. (perth)

I hope so. I just sort of had this image of a guy walking along carrying a kid by their belt. :)

flippant 11-05-2004 05:11 PM

:D Woa! Slow down! You may be catching on! :D

FloridaDragon 11-07-2004 09:54 PM

This might also apply to some of you and if it does then shame on you.

How about smokers who throw their butts everywhere like it is NOT littering. Smokers I cut some slack (I don't smoke) as I know it is their choice and their lungs (and my parents, and my sister, and my brother) but I hate it when they act like the world is their ashtray.

wolf 11-08-2004 11:00 AM

If not in proximity of an ashtray, I twist the remaining fire and tobacco out the end, make sure that the butt is cool enough that I won't be setting fire to myself (or anything else) and discard that bit in a trash recepticle if available, or stick it in my watch pocket for later disposal if not.

Others here have seen me do this, or at least have been around me when I have done it. The process itself is pretty low key, not very noticable.

I did have a dancer at a pow-wow notice and compliment me on it a couple years ago.

warch 11-08-2004 05:50 PM

We generally get a few or more median/highway grass fires (some big) each summer from discarded firey butts.

flippant 11-08-2004 06:17 PM

This is off the smoking topic but I just had to write a nasty- note. My hand is usually not forced until it comes to something I just realized is a knee- jerk reaction for me. People that are ridiculously self- complimentary. Do people really get to make assumptions about how I feel? StUpiD. :(
Outside of all of you being in love with me.....it doesn't usually work. :D

404Error 11-08-2004 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by wolf
If not in proximity of an ashtray, I twist the remaining fire and tobacco out the end, make sure that the butt is cool enough that I won't be setting fire to myself (or anything else) and discard that bit in a trash recepticle if available, or stick it in my watch pocket for later disposal if not...


I was taught this procedure in the military, it's called *field stripping* the cigarette. So as to not to leave evidence of your presence for the enemy to find.


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