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dar512 10-31-2004 10:17 PM

What makes a movie worth owning?
 
Or maybe more accurately what makes a movie worth seeing over and over again. I've been trying to develop some rule of thumb that will help me decide whether I'll enjoy watching a movie enough to make it worth buying it.

Here's my latest theory. It's the writing. Not only well written, but witty. "The Thin Man", "Ghostbusters", "The Truth About Cats and Dogs", "Pirates of the Caribbean". I enjoy these movies and their ilk every time I see them.

I'll admit that this answer is not complete. I pull out the various "Jurassic Park" movies from time to time. Yes, even that horrid second one. And this is not witty writing by any means. Maybe there's a testosterone filter that also qualifies a movie.

In the meantime, I intend to do some research into the "witty movie" hypothesis.

Witty movie recommendations anyone?

Happy Monkey 10-31-2004 10:27 PM

"Rosenkrantz and Guildenstern are Dead" is witty out the wazoo. Perhaps too witty in places.

Trilby 10-31-2004 10:35 PM

Monty Python's the Life of Brian is hilarious. I laugh every time I watch it.

Elspode 10-31-2004 10:43 PM

This is a great question. I have several yardsticks by which I judge a film's purchasable merit. Here they are in declining order of importance:

1) I really like it.
2) It has "classic" staying power.
3) It is truly (a) artistic (b) original (c) engaging.
4) Is it something that I never get tired of watching? Then I buy it.
5) If I cared for the film at all, then price is the final factor. I'll buy things I never went in search of if extremely cheap.

I have something on the order of 100 DVD's and probably another 250 movies on tape.

Vindwyn 10-31-2004 10:46 PM

Movies to Watch Again and Again
 
Monty Python and the Holy Grail

The Matrix (but not the sequels)

The original 3 Star Wars movies

All of the Indiana Jones movies

Dune

Labyrinth

Mask of Zorro (modern version)

Heck. I don't know what makes these movies so great. They just have really good story lines and memorable dialogue. These are the kinds of movies that you'll be quoting with your friends over lunch.

TheSnake 10-31-2004 10:47 PM

Shawshank Redemption, Hoosiers, Forrest Gump, Usual Suspects

I think I tend to like movies where the characters triumph over adversity and show perseverance, or if they are just cleverly written.

breakingnews 10-31-2004 11:13 PM

I tend to buy movies that:
a) have an artistic or some sort of coolness factor that I want to share with the rest of the entire effin' world. Films I think everyone should watch, because I feel a friend otherwise might not make the effort to rent or NetFlix the movie on his or her own accord. Examples in my collection include Lost in Translation (as discussed in an earlier thread), American History X, Full Metal Jacket, um - that's actually all I can think of right now after an exhausting liver-punishing weekend in Atlanta.
b) make great group entertainment. I only watch a handful of my movies on any sort of regularity (read: I watch American Beauty, oh, once a month or so); the only other time I get to blow dust off the library is when friends are over and are in the mood to laugh hysterically at Caddyshack, Big Lebowski, Zoolander, Old School and Van Wilder, among others.

Carebear Nihilist 11-01-2004 10:23 AM

I usually only buy movies that are either thought provoking enough to watch many times over (Tarantino flicks are a good example), or rank high in something I like to call the "badass factor" (Bruce Campell anyone?).

wolf 11-01-2004 10:41 AM

I have a lot of movies.

So many that it would probably be embarrassing were I to actually count them.

In addition to purchased movies, I have a lot of stuff that I "timeshifted" from cable, although I've gotten over that for the most part. (which are tapes that have 3-4 movies each on them).

DVD Extras helps in that regard.

A lot of the films that I considered must buys are ones that have some particular, usually pleasant association with my childhood ... multiple copies of various formats of The Great Escape attest to this, as does purchasing In Like Flint and Our Man Flint shortly after getting a DVD player.

Sometimes it's a matter of quality ... like Mel Gibson's The Passion of the Christ.

Sometimes it's a matter of not-quality ... like Mars Needs Women.

Other times it's the fact that "I really liked that" ... thus my collections of Wiseguy, Twin Peaks, and Star Trek, The Original Series.

I was just thinking back to the night (a LOOOONG time ago) when I bought my first VCR. That night I immediately purchased two movies: 2001 and Little Shop of Horrors.

That seems to have colored my video and DVD buying from that point on.

Films that I saw in a theater and thought were way cool to an extreme get bought ... Backdraft, Dances with Wolves, and Better off Dead are all in my hands.

Sometimes it's cheapness. Dementia 13 was $5. So was Creepshow.

Other times, I must admit, it's that bugaboo that gets all of us ... "Oh, what's this box in the mail? Pearl Harbor? Goddamnit. I forgot to send the motherfucking card back and now that I've opened the box you can't invisibly reseal and put back in the mail as 'refused, return to sender' it's going to cost me as much as the movie not to keep the goddamn thing ..."

This is how I purchased Minority Report and the first two Lord of the Rings films (which I still don't like).

Being able to refuse those things on the phone, and then online has significantly improved my ability not to buy movies that I don't want.

Clodfobble 11-02-2004 08:44 PM

The only DVDs I ever bother purchasing are anime. We own around 150 DVDs and VHS tapes of anime, compared to 18 DVDs of other genres (not counting the kids' movies) almost all of which were gifts. A big reason for this is the same as breakingnews', I want to share them with friends who might not otherwise experience them.

dar512 11-02-2004 09:13 PM

The only anime I've seen is "Princess Mononoke". Ebert spoke so highly of it that I made my family watch it. They all loved it. (Unlike most of my attempts to introduce something different!)

Anything else you might recommend?

Clodfobble 11-02-2004 09:17 PM

For the family? "Castle In the Sky" and "Kiki's Delivery Service," as well as "Spirited Away" for the ones who can handle PG. All three are by Miyazaki, the guy who did "Princess Mononoke."

For the grownups, "Trigun" and "Cowboy Bebop" are two good ones to start with--keeping in mind that they're TV series, so you're in for several hours of watching.

Trilby 11-03-2004 12:44 AM

[quote=Clodfobble]For the family? ...and "Kiki's Delivery Service," as well as "Spirited Away" . All three are by Miyazaki[quote]

Kiki's Delivery Service is the best animated movie ever. Absolutely stunning and a great story. I own two copies. Highly entertaining--and gorgeous animation. Other contenders are the Little Mermaid and Lion King--both incredible. Aladdin is classic and Nightmare Before Christmas (Tim Burton) is another 'must'.

lookout123 11-03-2004 06:31 PM

Quote:

What makes a movie worth owning?
a great money shot?

Clodfobble 11-03-2004 08:12 PM

Other contenders are the Little Mermaid and Lion King--both incredible. Aladdin is classic and Nightmare Before Christmas (Tim Burton) is another 'must'.

"Anime" is very different from "animated." I agree, those are great movies, I'm just sayin'.

dar512 11-03-2004 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clodfobble
Other contenders are the Little Mermaid and Lion King--both incredible. Aladdin is classic and Nightmare Before Christmas (Tim Burton) is another 'must'.

"Anime" is very different from "animated." I agree, those are great movies, I'm just sayin'.

I'm willing to learn. What makes anime, anime?

Edited for punctuation.

Happy Monkey 11-03-2004 10:34 PM

Japanese authors, directors, and artists.

wolf 11-04-2004 12:36 AM

I thought it was extremely pale skinned cartoon characters with large, round eyes, and large round breasts that made them qualify as 'anime.'

Oh, and with often incomprehensible plotlines.

Admittedly, I've probably not been exposed to "the good stuff."

Bullitt 11-04-2004 12:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wolf
I thought it was extremely pale skinned cartoon characters with large, round eyes, and large round breasts that made them qualify as 'anime.'

Oh, and with often incomprehensible plotlines.

Admittedly, I've probably not been exposed to "the good stuff."

Go rent "Princess Mononoke" and "Akira". Pretty much THE two anime movies.
Also, the term anime comes from japanimation. Its, as the name states, japanese animation. Its pretty much the best you can get.

wolf 11-04-2004 01:24 AM

I've seen Project A-KO, and I think I even tried to watch Akira at least once.

Back when the SciFi Channel was relatively new they used to show anime on Saturday Mornings.

I also have a couple videotapes from the series with that dude that turns into a chick if he gets wet? And his dad's a Giant Panda sometimes?

Roosta 11-04-2004 07:40 AM

I've got around 250 DVDs of which I suppose Shawshank, Green Mile, Pulp Fiction, American Beauty, Usual Suspects and curiously, Unbreakable would be my favourites.

Roosta 11-04-2004 07:42 AM

Oh, and Lock Stock And Two Smoking Barrels and Snatch make me laugh like a drain!! Some of the maddest characters on the big/small screen.

Clodfobble 11-04-2004 08:12 AM

Also, the term anime comes from japanimation.

Whoa, whoa, whoa. Anime is a japanese word. I think it has its roots in the english word "animation," because the Japanese like to assimilate words into their language a lot, but "japanimation" is some cutesy pun that an American came up with, I assure you. The Japanese call their country "Nippon," so there's no way "anime" derives from "japanimation."

And for the record, I don't consider Akira to be that great. Ahead of its time, very complex art, yadda yadda yadda--but definitely not the best thing to watch as your introduction to anime, either way.

I also have a couple videotapes from the series with that dude that turns into a chick if he gets wet? And his dad's a Giant Panda sometimes?

I know the series you're talking about, but I've been wracking my brain to come up with the title and I can't. Anyway, I think you'd really like "Trigun," wolf.

Undertoad 11-04-2004 08:21 AM

Ranma 1/2 - a favourite amongst the tranny crowd that used to hang here.

Cyber Wolf 11-04-2004 03:00 PM

"Here! Educate yourself!" If you weren't sure what anime is or have a select/narrow view on what it is, this'll clear that right up. This site is surprisingly thorough and objective.

Bullitt 11-04-2004 03:28 PM

Sorry I misspoke Clod, I meant to say that the terms anime and japanimation are somewhat interchangable. And yeah Akira probably isn't the best intro into anime by any means, but it still kicks some serious ass.

If you like the giant robot thing, also an ass kicking genre, check out Robotech. I don't care what anyone says, it beats Gundam like a redheaded stepchild


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