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lookout123 07-26-2004 11:39 AM

DNC news, or lack thereof
 
the link is to an article describing the reduced role of the big 3 networks in the convention, but in the middle i found some interesting quotes (read below). this sounds to me like kerry is limiting reporters' access to him and the major players this week; which i think has been one of the things that the dems have called bush out over the last couple of years.

anyway...
Quote:

We'd always like to have more time,'' said Mr. Brokaw, for whom these will be the last conventions as NBC anchor, as he is leaving his post after the election. "On the other hand, can I go and make a strong editorial argument for the necessity of having more time? These conventions are so managed, and over-managed.'' Mr. Brokaw said Senator John Kerry's campaign staff was trying to control what the networks did to an unusual degree.

"Any entrepreneurship that we show on booking guests or unilaterally calling up people and trying to get them to come to our booth, we get a call 15 minutes later from the Kerry operation saying 'No, no, that's not part of our booking procedure,' '' Mr. Brokaw said. "There is a politburo running this convention.'' (Stephanie Cutter, a spokeswoman for Mr. Kerry, said the campaign's booking operation was set up to facilitate interviews, not restrict them.)

The campaign went so far as to try to limit the kind of questions Mr. Brokaw and Mr. Rather were to ask Mr. Kerry here on Wednesday afternoon. The staff wanted the questions to concern Mr. Kerry's expectations for the convention, nothing more, according to people at both networks. It was the sort of terms-setting that few have dared to ask of network anchors. The request was swiftly denied.

Mr. Kerry did not help matters when he failed to appear until nearly an hour before the evening newscasts, leaving the anchors to wait at Faneuil Hall with increasing anxiety. (Mr. Kerry was not running late in returning from a campaign stop but rather from his vacation home in Nantucket.)

"What that said to me was that either they don't have their stuff together, or he's ultimately responsible, or he just took it lightly,'' Mr. Rather complained
article

lookout123 07-26-2004 12:09 PM

i know there is another place for humor, but...


they got some photos of teddy kennedy on the way to the convention...

Kennedy on way to convention

SteveDallas 07-26-2004 12:19 PM

I'm afraid I've been unable to sympathize with any of the hand-wringing about the lack of broadcast TV coverage of the political conventions. The broadcast networks are becoming increasingly irrelevant as it is. Anybody who is interested can find much more thorough coverage in other places. The fact is if "The Simple Life 3: Norristown" will attract more viewers than some old geezer politician, guess which one will be played? It's way, way, way, too late for anybody to change their minds about "public service" obligations of broadcasters.

wolf 07-26-2004 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lookout123
this sounds to me like kerry is limiting reporters' access to him and the major players this week;

Looks like he should have been limiting reporter's access to his
wife.

Also reported by
CNN , in case you are assuming that it's just overblown dem-baiting on the part of FoxNews.

I do find Teresa's remarks (which she denied making, despite video and audio tape) amusing ... decrying unnamed behaviors as "Un-Pennsylvanian" and "Un-American."

I don't see how she's judging this, given that she is neither an American, nor a Pennsylvanian.

wolf 07-26-2004 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SteveDallas
The fact is if "The Simple Life 3: Norristown" will attract more viewers than some old geezer politician, guess which one will be played?

Now there's a show I'd watch ... ooh, a new game, do a shot everytime I would see someone I'd admitted.

I don't think I have enough booze in the house for a show like that.

lookout123 07-26-2004 12:25 PM

absolutely right wolf. i posted that under it's own thread.
found here:http://cellar.org/showthread.php?t=6442

lookout123 07-26-2004 12:28 PM

and the sh*t hits the fan
 
Media Upset With DNC Restroom Facilities

Sun Jul 25, 7:17 AM ET

By BRIAN JOHNSON, Associated Press Writer

BOSTON - Media members, already perturbed by long security lines, may find themselves waiting in line for something nearly as important. As the majority of the print reporters arrived Saturday at the FleetCenter for the Democratic National Convention, tongues clucked when they saw the restroom facilities that they will be using for the next week.

Twenty portable restrooms, like those used on construction sites, are lined up in front of the media pavilion to service nearly 1,200 members of the print media who will be working around the clock. That's about 60 serious coffee-drinkers per toilet.

"That's absurd," said Jim Drinkard, a political reporter for USA Today, when he heard of the ratio of toilets per media member. "This is not the type of planning you'd expect out of someone trying to be a good host."

Drinkard, who is also the chairman of the Standing Committee of Correspondents, said he was told by the DNCC, the committee in charge of planning the convention, that the lack of toilets was a move aimed at cutting costs. Calls to the DNCC press office were not immediately returned.

Drinkard also said the quality of the toilets was insufficient.

"We were led to believe there would be trailer units," Drinkard said, referring to the restrooms used at the 2000 Republican National Convention in Philadelphia. Drinkard said that the trailers could get pretty unpleasant after a week of heavy use.

"But they are much better than Porta-Johns," he said.

Cyber Wolf 07-26-2004 01:09 PM

If I wasn't at work right now, I'd be rolling around, legs flailing, pounding the floor and turning blue with laughter about that.
So this'll have to do till I get home: :lol:

lookout123 07-26-2004 01:11 PM

so this week could we legitimately say that the "journalists" are full of shit?

lookout123 07-26-2004 07:43 PM

WaPo on top of their game as usual
 
By Howard Kurtz
Washington Post Staff Writer
Monday, July 26, 2004; 1:24 PM


BOSTON, July 26--Those who say The Washington Post is out of step with the country just got a new round of ammunition.

The newspaper is printing 10,000 copies a day of a special convention issue that is being distributed for free among journalists and delegates attending the Democratic gathering here. And in large type at the top of Monday's second section, above a picture of John Kerry and John Edwards, is a banner: "ELECTION 2000."

Right topic, wrong year.

It seems that the paper's news desk used the same template as the last time a special convention issue was published, but forgot to update the year. The Post, however, isn't confiscating the copies.

"I decided to allow them to remain in the press center," said Executive Editor Leonard Downie Jr. "Even though it's an embarrassing mistake, it's not a mistake in substance of stories."

But this was not exactly the New York Post reporting that Kerry had picked Dick Gephardt as his running mate. "At least we weren't wrong on the news," Downie said. "We were wrong in labeling the news."


© 2004 The Washington Post Company

lookout123 07-28-2004 12:14 PM

it was close, but he got the endorsement
 
Tuesday, July 27, 2004
Socialists Join Communists in Backing Kerry

We've already reported how Communist Party USA has endorsed John Kerry for president, and now we're pleased to note that Democratic Socialists (isn't that redundant?) of America has chimed in as well.

"Kerry was hardly the first choice of our members. Most supported Dennis Kucinich or Howard Dean in the Democratic primary elections and would be very critical of Senator Kerry's voting record on trade issues, as well as his support for the resolution authorizing the use of force in Iraq; but the most important concern of our members now is to defeat Bush," said Frank Llewellyn, the socialists' national director.

lookout123 07-28-2004 12:18 PM

movie star or politician
 
CONTROVERSY SURROUNDS KERRY CONVENTION FILM: WAR SCENES REENACTED


A bombshell new book written by the man who took over John Kerry's Swift Boat charges: Kerry reenacted combat scenes for film while in Vietnam!

The footage is at the center of a growing controversy in Boston.

The official convention video introducing Kerry is directed by Steven Spielberg protégé James Smoll.

Secrecy surrounds the convention short, but the DRUDGE REPORT has learned, Smoll was given hours of Kerry's homemade 8 millimeter films.

"Kerry carried a home movie camera to record his exploits for later viewing," charges a naval officer in the upcoming book UNFIT FOR COMMAND.

"Kerry would revisit ambush locations for reenacting combat scenes where he would portray the hero, catching it all on film. Kerry would take movies of himself walking around in combat gear, sometimes dressed as an infantryman walking resolutely through the terrain. He even filmed mock interviews of himself narrating his exploits. A joke circulated among Swiftees was that Kerry left Vietnam early not because he received three Purple Hearts, but because he had recorded enough film of himself to take home for his planned political campaigns."

UNFIT FOR COMMAND will be unleashed next month by REGNERY. [It ranked #1,318 on the AMAZON hitparade Wednesday morning.]

The films shot by Kerry's own Super 8 millimeter hand-held movie camera have the grainy quality of home movies.

MORE

The BOSTON GLOBE reported in 1996 that the Kerry home movies "reveal something indelible about the man who shot them - the tall, thin, handsome Naval officer seen striding through the reeds in flak jacket and helmet, holding aloft the captured B-40 rocket. The young man so unconscious of risk in the heat of battle, yet so focused on his future ambitions that he would reenact the moment for film. It is as if he had cast himself in the sequel to the experience of his hero, John F. Kennedy, on the PT-109."

"John was thinking Camelot when he shot that film, absolutely," says Thomas Vallely, a fellow veteran and one of Kerry's closest political advisers and friends.

NEW YORK TIMES bestselling author Lt. Col. Robert "Buzz" Patterson in his new book RECKLESS DISREGARD, details one of the claimed Kerry reenactments for film:

"On February 28, 1969, now in charge of PCF 94, Kerry came under fire from an enemy location on the shore. The crew's gunner returned fire, hitting and wounding the lone gunman. Kerry directed the boat to charge the enemy position. Beaching his boat, Kerry jumped off, chased the wounded insurgent behind a thatched hutch, and killed him. Kerry and his crew returned within days, armed with a Super 8 video camera he had purchased at the post exchange at Cam Ranh Bay, and reenacted the skirmish on film."

Happy Monkey 07-28-2004 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lookout123
CONTROVERSY SURROUNDS KERRY CONVENTION FILM: WAR SCENES REENACTED

Old (and not particularly reliable) news.
Quote:

The first thing to be said is that the senator’s movies are not self-aggrandizing. Kerry is hardly in the film, and never strikes so much as a heroic pose. These are the souvenirs of a 25-year-old guy sent to an exotic place on an otherworldly mission, who bought an 8-millimeter camera in the PX and shot a few hours of travelogue, most of it pretty boring if you didn’t live through it.

lookout123 07-28-2004 12:35 PM

uh, he did re-enact his exploits for film. there are a lot of people out there who still think the clips they've seen are from actual combat.

Happy Monkey 07-28-2004 12:43 PM

Maybe. I haven't seen any of the video. But Drudge is hardly a good source, and neither is the nut writing "Unfit for Command".

lookout123 07-28-2004 12:45 PM

ok, why is drudge not a good source, and how do you know that the guy who wrote the book is a "nut".

nobody has called the guy that Kerry rescued a nut, so why would you assume that the guy who replaced him is one?

Happy Monkey 07-28-2004 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lookout123
nobody has called the guy that carried rescued a nut,

Who?

Here's a good rundown on John E. O'Neil. He was hired by Nixon to attack Kerry, and has been brought out of retirement by Bush. He loves to give the impression that he served with Kerry, but he didn't meet him until a debate on the Dick Cavett Show.

Drudge is a tabloid. His exclusives are as likely to be untrue as they are to be true - he doesn't check. And he's not above altering his sources to suit his convenience.

lookout123 07-28-2004 01:33 PM

i've never heard him claim that he served with Kerry. he served in the same unit after Kerry with many of the same men that Kerry was with.
there are people in the US air force that i've never worked directly with that i can speak volumes(both good and bad) about because i have gone into units after them.

anyway - i don't really care one way or another about the guy. it was a story involving the dnc so i posted it.

and drudge is a moron for not crediting the guy with a photo, but drudge doesn't just make shit up either - he doesn't generally write much, choosing instead to link to others. he is a one man version of the cellar; just putting all of his links in a row.

Happy Monkey 07-28-2004 01:35 PM

He altered the photo.

lookout123 07-28-2004 02:42 PM

he obviously altered the photo so he wouldn't have to credit the guy. stupid. but flipping a photo is not tantamount to falsification of news stories.

Happy Monkey 07-28-2004 03:27 PM

Come on. He flipped the photo and altered the street signs and traffic light. That is an active attempt to falsify something that doesn't even matter. Why would you think he'd be more scrupulous on something he actually cared about?

But regardless, I didn't say he falsified news stories. I said he doesn't check whether they are true or not before publishing.

warch 07-28-2004 06:00 PM

Look out Lookout. You sound like a party feed.

xoxoxoBruce 07-28-2004 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lookout123
uh, he did re-enact his exploits for film. there are a lot of people out there who still think the clips they've seen are from actual combat.

There's a lot of people out there that think Saddam attacked the WTC on 9-11. :3_eyes:

lookout123 07-28-2004 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce
There's a lot of people out there that think Saddam attacked the WTC on 9-11. :3_eyes:

then they are also would win the award for dipshit of the year.

warch - you can think what you want about my views. back when the democratic primaries were first gearing up and kerry started showing the clips i threw the bullshit card. i can't find the quote now, but a couple of the guys who were with kerry in his navy days have said that he referred to himself as the next JFK from Mass. these weren't ( and i don't think they are) negative or sniping comments. they are simply an example of the fact that Kerry planned on a political career, as many Yaleys do, even at that early date.

my view, of it is that he made the films back then so that he could use them in the future, if and when appropriate for his political career. he has every right in the world to do so - i think it is unfortunate that there are people out there who think the film clips actually show him in combat situations.

xoxoxoBruce 07-28-2004 06:43 PM

Maybe he made them to impress some future rich chick. ;)

lookout123 07-28-2004 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce
Maybe he made them to impress some future rich chick. ;)

or 2

lookout123 08-12-2004 07:41 PM

Update
 
Acceptance Anecdote
In his acceptance speech at the Democratic Convention last month, John Kerry told the story of Mary Ann Knowles, a New Hampshire woman with breast cancer who Kerry said, "had to keep working day after day right through her chemotherapy, no matter how sick she felt, because she was terrified of losing her family's health insurance."

But New Hampshire's Union Leader newspaper reports Knowles had 26 weeks of paid disability leave available, and was never in danger of losing her insurance.

warch 08-16-2004 11:08 AM

Those damn cancer patients. Just like them damn welfare mamas. Always trying to rip off the man. ;)

lookout123 08-17-2004 11:37 AM

It is a little late in coming, but here is George Will's column addressing Kerry's speech at the DNC convention.

George Will


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