You dirty pirate you...
 

Ok, i admit, i'm a cheap, dirty little whore of a man and deserve lashings. now that that's out of the way... anyone know where i can get free dvd ripping software? all the stuff ive download from googled websites are just trial versions which do like 5 minutes then quit (lame! :thumbsdow )
and our local best buy/circuit city/everywhere else that sells software just took all the dvd ripping software off the shelves cause they're awesome like that.

try Here

I just went through the same search.

Try this.

It's a multi-step process, but you end up with a high quality rip at the end.

You might want to try here.


you low down dirty pirate.

-sm

Here Has a list of apps.

Thanks all for you're help.. Especially you sm, for helping me affirm my stance against the RIAA and Metallica ( :finger: )and all those other whiners. CD and dvd sales only suck cause most movies an music sucks nowadays.

:skull: PIRATES FOREVER! :skull:

yeah, everything sucks ..

... but not so bad that you'll pass up a chance to download it free, right?

-sm

The thing is sales don't suck, they're breaking new highs. When they start paying artists I'll start paying for their products. When they stop ramming though legislation to extend copyright, I'll consider paying for their products, when they stop trying to quash new technologies to defend an outdated oligarchy I'll consider paying for their products. I've bought 30 CDs in the last 5 months, all of which are from independant labels, I'm happy to pay for music, I'm not happy to pay for a lobbying organisation that rips off artists and tries to modify the boundries of what is legal to suit it's bottom line.

You can now pay for and download DRM-free, 192kpbs mp3s from 150 different completely independent artists from itsaboutmusic.net

..although the guy should really combine his itsaboutmusic.com (CDs and DVDs) and itsaboutmusic.net (MP3) into one store... I have to convince the gent of this

Not much there of interest but Ill keep an eye open. As a rule I prefer to buy CDs, I rip lossless and I'm done, If i need to convert it into something lossy I can easily and I don't need to have the CD with me.

Amen Jag. and yes sm, most current, big name artists aren't putting out music worthy of my hard earned money so why should i pay for it? If they are getting mad that they are losing part of their already small cut from the recording indusrty then they should do somthing about it. But hey I'm just a consumer, what do I know about buying and selling things.

On another note, I'm happy to see that i got the almighty UT to post on my thread! :D

Seriously, please treat me like a regular user for discussion purposes! I ain't almighty nothin' and need to be taught where I'm wrong.

Yeah, UT puts his cape on like everyone else. Besides he doesn't keep cats and drives his mother to distraction. :p

One time I saw UT spike a puppy and do an endzone dance, just because he could.

You want to copy the movies to another DVD or park them on your harddrive?

I park them to my harddrive using
Auto GK.

I just want to copy them to my hard drive so I can watch em whenever I want w/o needing the disc.

In case SM is still reading - what he wants to do falls well within Fair Use and is entirely legal.

What I do is legal as well, so long as I own the movies I rip.

Unless he borrowed the disk from the library or a friend and watches it after the loan period.

shush!

What we don't know doesn't hurt us!

Ah. Look-the-other-way morality.

"Rationalization is more important than sex." - Jeff Goldblum in that aging yuppies movie with Kevin Kline and a bunch of other great people.

Oh come now. Everybody does it ...

Wolfie - I suspect you're too smart to really believe that. I suspect I am being baited. Even so...

1) Not everyone does it.
2) Even if everyone were doing it, that doesn't make it right.

The vast majority of people have pirated something at time point. I'd say more than 1 in 5 my age have at least 50 Cds worth of pirated music in one form or another. Right? See above.

I realize that there are many people pirating. That doesn't mean everyone is.

And just because 'everyone' is doing it doesn't make it moral.

The vast majority are.
Moral? That's harder. They've failed to adapt to a new world and are paying for it. They don't fairly compensate artists and sue their fans, frankly I don't think I could feel the slightest bit of remorse if I worked at it. I do however but non-riaa music.

If sm is still hanging around, I'd like to ask a question. I have chosen a few of my vinyl albums for me to purchase the CD for. That is I'll have both the vinyl and CD for a few of my albums. Last year, I bought pretty much every Black Sabbath CD for $10.00 each at a large record store. They weren't on sale - regular price - $10.00.

But last week I went back for another round and looked up a couple - Al Stewart's Year of the Cat and Robin Trower's Bridge of Sighs. Old stuff and its NOT on iTunes (I'm a huge iTunes customer). The problem is that both CDs were priced at around $16.00 to $18.00. Now why would a CD that surely recouped all its costs and was profitable while still in vinyl be priced at or about the same as the price for a newly released CD that has was yet to recoup a dime and which is probably 100 times more expensive to produce? I chose not to purchase either CD and left the store somewhat pissed.

On a related note, I had the privilege to chat with Frank Marino (a guitarist with a cult following for those not familiar) whose live album recorded in the early 70s is STILL selling (in CD form - its a classic) and he told me he can't remember the last time he saw a check. He was pretty disgusted about it.

Something is wrong with this picture. Hollywood and the recording industry is lying to someone about something.

I realize you are not a spokesperson for either the MPAA or the RIAA - I am addressing you only because you are knowlegeable about the industry.

No it's far more specific than something to someone, it's everything to everyone. Artists get screwed on royalties both though nonpayment and obscene contracts, we get screwed hard on CD prices and yet they whine about downloads, despite the fact that it's a proven fact that major downloaders often are major buyers as well. CD sales aren't slumping, some are and rightly so, because they're producing shit.

I heard the creator of the Spiderman character on the radio the other day. Seems he's in a tiff with Hollywood over his share of the Spiderman I and II takes. They are trying to screw him over. And I've heard this so many times from so many different people.

BUT, I think, at some point, that folks (artists, creators, etc.) need to stop entering into contracts that relate the payment to profit. Profit is a slippery number and people should start using gross revenue as the basis. I learned that lesson a long time ago. Hollywood is legendary for lying about their profit. Gross revenue, on the other hand, is very hard to fudge.

Bullshit. This is simple rationalization. You wanted "50 Cds worth of pirated music in one form or another" and stole these performances. I fail to see how your ripping these cds helps to compensate those artists.

It doesn't but then, buying them won't either. They try and screw me, I screw them, what comes around goes around. If they were with a non-RIAA label, I'd buy them, no problems and I've got a stack of cds here to prove it.

If I want to support one of those artists I can go to one of their concerts.

OK, I'm gonna get into this, but I think I'll launch a new thread, since Bullit's original point is fair use, not piracy.

Beestie, the quick hit is this. CD pressings of newer artists are hoping to entice new fans to buy the record by selling it at a discounted rate ($10 is below contract retail for most discs). CD pressings of established artists, or rereleases, believe that they have an established fan base that will buy the recordings regardless. For most fans, if they know they want a reissue, the difference between $10 and $18 isn't going to make them walk away.

I release this may not have been the case in your situation, but the general principle holds.

-sm

Well I suppose that's one way of life.

And you've got the stolen stack too. Tell me that you've made an attempt for each cd to contact the artist(s) and compensate them.

And what about the tech guys in the recording studio? The photog that did the cover art?

You want to make it sound like you're boycotting. You're not. If you don't like the RIAA, leave their stuff alone. Don't rip it off and then tell me how bad they are.

Argh. First of all it's not theft. Using theft quite simply implies you don't see the fundamental shift that has occurred. Music, movies, books, all are information and exist at one point or another in digital form, increasingly so. You can replicate digital data as many times as you want for no cost and no loss of quality. Despite this the media industry thinks it can continue to screw people as hard as it wants and charge the same amount it did for cds formed quality lossy files. The situation has changed, what you are seeing is market forces at work. Once the hand wringing about the sky collapsing stops you'll see prices drop and a new price-point established that is workable. Theft is when I take your lawnmower.

I really don't download much anymore anyway (too much bother) but I've still got a node running with 5gig or so of RIAA stuff. Why? because they shit me off. Not so much a boycott as a vendetta. If there is one force that endangers the freedom of people to innovate and technology to move forward it's media lobbies protecting outdated business models, that pisses me off. A lot.

As for what happens afterwards, see this

I had a brief flirtation with the whole downloading music thing ... frankly the whole process gave me the willies with respect to allowing strangers to access my machine, even if in "limited" ways as well as in not knowing what I might be downloading along with my copy of certain happy tunes.

Anything I do as far as "copying" at this point relates to fair-use ... making mix cds just like I made mix tapes off my albums in high school and college, primarily for use in the car.

Here are the details. Another case of movies making no official profits. And this is after he makes no residuals for anything prior to the movies. He created the majority of Marvel's characters, and gets a bare pittance, and now they're trying to screw him out of movie money too.

Bogus. Bogus. Bogus. From any random twit on the net, I might accept that as a point of view. But I know you're not stupid, Jag. You must surely understand the concept of intellectual property and you must also know that the cost of most IP is not in the duplication but in the initial development.

Yes. There has been a fundamental shift. It is now quite easy to steal intellectual property. The only thing that stops one is their morals.

Oh trust me, I know more about IP than I care to remember. I am aware there are initial distribution costs but simply put, the paradigm has changed and the recording industry has not. Read that link for a better explanation. That does not change the fact I find the use of 'theft' and 'stolen' spin. There is a fundamental difference that needs to be recognized.

Secondly, our IP system is a fucking mess, both copyright and patent law need massive overhauls so say the least. As it stands they threaten freedom and innovation and will make global warming seem like a minor annoyance to future generations in terms of the damage it could do. Our society is more and more producing IP instead of physical products, striking the balance between creators rights and freedom is a very complex problem and the answers will vary area to area.

The recording industry in this form akin to a large dying animal, dying, but still dangerous, lashing out in all directions. Sooner it's dead the better for everyone. There are ways of paying artists without resorting to DRM and history suggests that it will be thrown in the garbage can where it belongs.

Call me cynical but morality doesn't come into it, this is the invisible hand of the market bitchslapping the recording industry and for a damn good reason. It's only going to get easier to move IP around, the involved industries simply have to adapt, they're running out of fingers and over the next 20 years the whole dam is going to break.

Keep in mind that "theft" is emotionally charged shorthand for "copyright infringement". In reality, they are very different crimes.

I download music. I have several downloaded albums. Usually that's how I roadtest music. If I like the album I downloaded i will often buy the next album by that artiste. Prior to the whole napster revolution a few years back, I rarely bought music. I would often go whole years without purchasing a single cd/tape. Since having access to filesharing I have started buying music much more frquently. These days I generally purchase 5 or 6 cds a year usually having listened to singles or previous albums by the same group