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lookout123 06-10-2004 11:22 AM

Choice
 
imagine you are told you have to make a choice: 1) you can live 50 more years, but will never achieve the goals you set, and will only find mediocre levels of success in all areas of your life. 2) you have 18 months to live but you will be granted everything you desire during that 18 months.

Which would you choose?

Clodfobble 06-10-2004 11:28 AM

50 years. Most people are lucky to get mediocre success across the board.

lumberjim 06-10-2004 11:29 AM

yeah, what she said.

moderate success beats being dead.

Pi 06-10-2004 11:45 AM

Depends on your age... I'm 24, I wouldn't like to die in 18 months, but maybe in 50 years ore more I would be glad only living 18 months but having succes with my last few plans.

lumberjim 06-10-2004 11:49 AM

Re: Choice
 
Quote:

Originally posted by lookout123
imagine you are told you have to make a choice: 1) you can live 50 more years, but will never achieve the goals you set, and will only find mediocre levels of success in all areas of your life. 2) you have 18 months to live but you will be granted everything you desire during that 18 months.

Which would you choose?

wait a minute. what if one of the things i want is to live to be 100, and i'm only 33 now?

wolf 06-10-2004 11:53 AM

I'll take the 50.

I find my goals are frequently subject to change without notice.

lookout123 06-10-2004 12:13 PM

Re: Re: Choice
 
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Originally posted by lumberjim

wait a minute. what if one of the things i want is to live to be 100, and i'm only 33 now?

i thought you were already in your 70's???

lookout123 06-10-2004 12:14 PM

i'm going to take the 50, i've found that its usually when i fall short of a goal that i find something that really improves my life anyway.

the being dead in 18 months doesn't bother me, but i think i would get bored if i was guaranteed everything i wanted i would get.

lumberjim 06-10-2004 12:17 PM

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Originally posted by lookout123


i thought you were already in your 70's???

well, my soul is over 900 years old, but this body is a sprightly 33 years, 9 months, 13 days, 11hours, 55minutes old

lookout123 06-10-2004 12:18 PM

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Originally posted by lumberjim
11hours, 55minutes old
no it's not. it has been more than a minute since you posted this.

Carbonated_Brains 06-10-2004 12:19 PM

Isn't life itself an alloted amount of time to achieve your goals?

I mean, racking up years isn't like collecting bags of money, there's no point in hoarding time if you've lived a full life, right?

18 months, and I achieve all my goals? No matter how lofty my goals are?

I'll take it.

I see the 50 years as an extended limbo, a purgatory in which you can never diverge from the middle of the road.

Give me 18 months and the assurance that my goals to make the world and those around me infinitely better, and I'll die satisfied and comfortably.

lookout123 06-10-2004 12:24 PM

pffffffffffffftt - who said anything about improving the world. i'm thinking, like, a 3-some with alyssa milano and charlize theron....

LOL

lumberjim 06-10-2004 12:24 PM

the thing you overlook is that the fulfillment of your goals is only satisfying because of the uncertainty of acheiving them. If you know going in that you will acheive them all, how is your life any better than someone who hits it half the time?

lookout123 06-10-2004 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by lumberjim
the thing you overlook is that the fulfillment of your goals is only satisfying because of the uncertainty of acheiving them. If you know going in that you will acheive them all, how is your life any better than someone who hits it half the time?
*bows with respect to the master*

you are ready for the next phase in you journey.

wolf 06-10-2004 12:27 PM

Depends on your viewpoint.

Achieving a goal is not an endpoint, it is a beginning.

Grasshopper, when you can snatch the pebble from my hand, it will be time for you to leave the monastery.

lumberjim 06-10-2004 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by wolf


Grasshopper, when you can snatch the pebble from my hand, it will be time for you to leave the monastery.

and when you realize that there is no pebble, you will be ready. ;)

Beestie 06-10-2004 12:32 PM

50 years. I don't have goals - I just try enjoy whatever comes my way and avoid stuff that rubs me the wrong way. Looking ahead is not one of my gifts.

lookout123 06-10-2004 12:36 PM

i just achieved a goal - i just whacked a rattle snake with a 5 iron! rock on. i can die happy now.

vsp 06-10-2004 12:40 PM

If the goals are limitless -- if I can set some serious crush-my-enemies, see-them-driven-before-me, hear-the-lamentation-of-their-women, put-Grover-Norquist-and-everyone-like-him-on-a-one-way-rocketship-to-Pluto, rub-Aladdin's-lamp-and-make-anything-happen kinds of goals -- I'd consider the 18 months.

But eighteen months can go like _that_. Hell, I can't believe it's June already, and that's just THIS year. Gimme the fifty.

Radar 06-10-2004 01:15 PM

I think the range is too far. I think a better question would be 10 years of overwhelming financial and personal success (not enough to watch you kids grow up), or 50 years of being a middle-management person who never stands out or does anything great.

Nice Conan-like goals vsp!

Torrere 06-10-2004 08:08 PM

Where oh where did May go!?

ladysycamore 06-10-2004 08:33 PM

Re: Choice
 
Quote:

Originally posted by lookout123
imagine you are told you have to make a choice: 1) you can live 50 more years, but will never achieve the goals you set, and will only find mediocre levels of success in all areas of your life. 2) you have 18 months to live but you will be granted everything you desire during that 18 months.

Which would you choose?

Hrm...well since I'm not a goal orientated person, and so far my life has been somewhat mediocre (read: normal), then what's another 50 years, eh? Especially in my situation, since I have no idea if I am going to even really live another 10 much less 50 years! :p

marichiko 06-11-2004 12:35 AM

I'd take the 18 months. If I could achieve what I really wanted to do rather than live a life of mediocrity, hell yes! Burn out bright and burn out fast. It might have been short, but I would have LIVED my life.

Catwoman 06-11-2004 05:07 AM

OK everyone. Stop talking. You DO have 18 months to do whatever you want to do, to at least TRY and achieve the goals you want to achieve. I am sick of these 'wish' questions. It is lazy to want rewards with no effort and believe me the reward truly is sweeter for the suffering, in whatever context. I climbed a very tall hill a few weeks ago. We didn't go up the tourist route. We climbed up the side of the hill amongst nettles, brambles and 6 foot high grass. It was at least a 60° gradient and I hated every minute of it. But when we got to the top, we realised something important. If we hadn't struggled, fallen, cut ourselves and got thoroughly exhausted and frustrated with each other, it just wouldn't have been the same. We realised it's all about the journey, not where you're going.

So I'll take the 50. And I'll make every month what I want it to be.

lookout123 06-11-2004 12:27 PM

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Originally posted by Catwoman
OK everyone. Stop talking. You DO have 18 months to do whatever you want to do, to at least TRY and achieve the goals you want to achieve.
pffft - i don't have time to work towards my goals when i keep cellar on my screen all the time.

LSMFT 06-24-2004 06:02 PM

Easy. My goal is to live the rest of my life in mediocrity. I'll gladly take the 51.5 years at this point.

marichiko 06-24-2004 09:57 PM

As for me, time's up. I'm outta here! I'm waaitiing! (taps toe and looks impatiently up at the sky).;)


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