Free State Project idea taken by hardass Xtians
 

Compete for cult followers by creating your own utopia! What could possibly go wrong?

http://www.nbc13.com/news/3394580/detail.html

I think somebody already tried this about 145 years ago. Didn't work then, either.

At this rate in 100 years the US will be so polarised by various hardarse groups grabbing different states there will be no united states.

What amuses me is I thin kthe difference between the taliban and a fundie christian state would be really quite minimal.

I'm tempted to let them make a go at it this time, but it wouldn't be fair to the sane people in the state.

I thought people were allowed to move wherever they wanted in the US. Did the rules change? Do we have to ask your permission now?

I think HMonkey was just showing consideration for the poor folks of SC who will have to endure the onslaught of bible bashing fascists sweeping through their streets.

I agree, it would suck to have this group move next door. But it's a free country. If people want to move somewhere, you can't really stop them. You can pass zoning laws and jack up the taxes to discourage an influx of people. But the bottom line is that people are free to move wherever they want to. As it should be.

Actually it could work. It worked for the Mormons. Now they control Utah, Nevada, and have a stronghold in several other states.

Read the damn quote. They want to secede.

And here is their king.

I guess I misunderstood your post. I thought your comment was directed at them moving to S.C. to establish a religious community.

I didn't realize you were talking about the pipe dream of secession.

Wait, the Mormons control Nevada?

tell us more

I grew up in Nevada, and trust me when I say, the Mormon's are in control. They settled the valley before a single casino was built. Many are in management positions and political positions throughout the state. Ask anyone who has lived in Nevada for 20 years or more and they'll tell you it's true.

Agreed. And where these militant xtians go is not really the problem anyway, it's just that there would be so many of them in the same place, like a swarm of hungry bees, sucking the pure untainted honey from the golden combs of South Carolina. Or something.

At this rate in 100 years the US will be so polarised by various hardarse groups grabbing different states there will be no united states.

But there will be Neigborhoods!!* :)




*see last month's Book of the Month thread

I think that we're in agreement on all this.

This news blurb is interesting because it's a deliberate plan. But the same thing happens constantly in a more natural and subtle way. People with like interests tend to seek each other out. It's a simple fact of life. Urban areas tend to have liberals in them. The countryside tends to have conservatives. If you look at most major cities, there is almost always some self-imposed racial segregation going on. Whites feel comfortable living next to whites, and blacks feel comfortable living next to blacks. So you have neighborhoods. You get Chinatowns, etc. in most cities.

This is just another instance of that phenomenon.

Look at various internet communities to see another example of it.

It's nothing new, either. The US was founded by the Puritains and Pilgrims after all.

I wouldn't mind having all the NeoCon's and other religious wing-nuts North and South Dakota and allowing them to secede as long as we can prevent them from entering the USA without a passport. Hell, as a libertarian, I wouldn't mind if every state became its own sovereign country.

[sarcasm]That sure would make trade more efficient.[/sarcasm]

Yes indeed, people do naturally 'graze' in 'herds' of like-for-like. I prefer to push my comfort levels and try to mix with as many different people as possible, often testing my patience considerably. Not saying herding is wrong though. All my friends are like-minded (generally) and it is comforting to know there are others who share your conceptions. Do you think this is why we have barriers (countries, borders, religions) which in turn leads to conflict (nationalism, racism, fascism)? Maybe if people didn't congregate in such groups there wouldn't be cause for segregation, stereotype or prejudice?

Well, the Cellar is certainly a good place to be exposed to alternate views. Whether one visits solely to argue, or in the hopes of reaching enlightenment is a personal choice.

I think I have about as much chance of reaching enlightenment as a pig does resisting shit.

Radar's correct on this one gang ... I went to my best "horses mouth" source ... a former Mormon who lives in Las Vegas.

She had this to say:

As far as Las Vegas goes, it's pretty much true. Up until 10 or 15 years ago it was absolutely true. However, we've had an average of 5,000 people moving here per month for about 15 years now...from all over the country...with the Hispanics being one of the faster growing groups...so I imagine the power base has been diluted to some degree. Las Vegas was first settled by Mormons and the gambling came later. In the early days, the two main sources for money to build the hotel/casinos were Mormon bankers and mob money (via the Teamsters union).

What it really comes down to is adherents of LDS don't have a problem with gentiles engaging in the use of caffiene, alcohol, and loose women, and they love money. Nothing in the Book of Mormon says they can't make money hand over fist.

Let me put this in perspective.
Arkansas. Sovereign. Nuclear weapons.

Originally posted by jaguar And therein lies the problem with RadarWorld. If all 50 states are independent countries, who's job does it become to go in and wrestle the nukes away from Arkansasania? Certain things are only possible when the 50 states (or in this case, 49) act as a unit.

Says right on our front door, here ... "e pluribus, unum" not "e pluribus, pluribus."