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Tomas Rueda 05-07-2004 08:14 AM

"Yum" or "ahh"? ,your choice
 
Y'all are going to lagh at me. But don't you think that the culinary arts (eating, cooking,wine-tasting, etc) are more pleasing and more subtle than sex as a whole?

Catwoman 05-07-2004 08:17 AM

Are you crazy??!!!!!

Don't get me started on why sex is better than food or this could get seriously x-rated and turn into a whole different kind of cellar with toys and whips and everything.

Tomas Rueda 05-07-2004 08:22 AM

i Know its weird. but, hey. when you eat, you get choices like Chinese cuisine, English, French, Spanish, Mexican, Italian, Etc.

or simpler. when you order a steak, you can have it rare, medium, or well done (with side dishes of course)

but sex, you have it and that's it there is no variety in it.

Catwoman 05-07-2004 08:27 AM

When you have sex, you could have a Chinese, an English, a French, a Spanish, a Mexican, an Italian, Etc.

Or simpler. With sex, it can be rare, medium, or well done (with side dishes of course)

Sex. It's all about variety.

Tomas Rueda 05-07-2004 08:31 AM

As far as Im concerned, no, it is not.

it seems far outweighted but, if you abstain from eating or drinking, you'll be dead within the month. however if you abstaing from the other, well, lets just say monks have been doing it for years and years.

Catwoman 05-07-2004 08:35 AM

Yes but your argument was that eating was more 'pleasing' and 'subtle' than sex, not that it was more necessary. Although personally, I'd argue that one too.:D

Tomas Rueda 05-07-2004 08:40 AM

HEY, eating is better that , point blank (and you know it.)

several reasons are againgst that
for example, can you put salt or other condiments to food. of couse .but not to the other

Catwoman 05-07-2004 08:44 AM

You could add salt, but it might sting a bit. I prefer honey, or ye olde faithful chocolate sauce. Even a bit of spice is quite nice.

perth 05-07-2004 09:09 AM

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Originally posted by Catwoman
Sex. It's all about variety.
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Originally posted by Tomas Rueda
As far as Im concerned, no, it is not.
Tomas, you're not doing it right then. There is room for infinite variety when it comes to sex. This is the internet age. Armed with Google and a few well-thought-out search queries, you can find a lot of things to improve the quality (and variety) of your sex life. Given the choice between a perfectly cooked steak and a marathon fuckfest, I'd choose the fuckfest without so much as blinking. But then, I know how to pick good toys. :)

Yelof 05-07-2004 09:41 AM

Food will never tell you that your apartment is too small and that it is time to get deeper into debt..

Yelof ducks and creeps off stage left

Radar 05-07-2004 09:43 AM

If you think any food on earth is better than sex, you're not having sex the right way.

Clodfobble 05-07-2004 09:47 AM

In general, I'd definitely say sex. But I will admit, there are occasions where I would choose eating queso over sex. But that's really the only food I can think of, and I probably have an addiction, so maybe that doesn't count. :)

glatt 05-07-2004 10:06 AM

Re: "Yum" or "ahh"? ,your choice
 
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Originally posted by Tomas Rueda
don't you think that the culinary arts (eating, cooking,wine-tasting, etc) are more pleasing and more subtle than sex as a whole?
"Subtle?" Yes.
"Pleasing?" No.

Not trying to to say food sucks. Food can be really yummy. But food at its best is still not as good as mediocre sex. The worst sex I've ever had is far better than the worst food I've ever had.

Yelof 05-07-2004 10:07 AM

Clodfobble, you'd be spoilt for choice in Portugal, fine women and great cheeses

glatt 05-07-2004 10:07 AM

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Originally posted by Clodfobble
I would choose eating queso over sex.
Please tell me about this thing you call "queso."

Radar 05-07-2004 10:23 AM

queso = cheese = frommage

glatt 05-07-2004 10:26 AM

OK. It's cheese. But there must be something special about it if clodfobble is would choose it over sex. I've never found a cheese I felt that way about.

marichiko 05-07-2004 11:22 AM

Actually, to me its sort of a wierd comparison. Kind of like saying its better to have a cat than it is to read a good book. Or that zebras are better than blenders. I enjoy a good meal and I enjoy good sex. I've even picked up men in the grocery store when shopping for dinner. I suppose if I had to make a choice between eating bland food and having bland sex, I'd pick eating bland food and having great sex. As for variety, there are as many varieties of men as there are varieties of food and the ways you can "season" your "meal" are endless. I could give some examples, but its my understanding that this is not a porn site, so I'll leave it to your imagination (You do have an imagination, don't you?).

Radar 05-07-2004 01:15 PM

The only real comparison between food is the old saying...

Sex is like Pizza, even when it's bad, it's really not that bad.

cowhead 05-07-2004 01:58 PM

well... that's a toughie.

speaking as a 'culinarian' (aka. I need to finish the paperwork to get my 'chef' status) the two are so intertwined (or can be) that the overall experience can be equally sensual.. ideally good food followed by good sex, both sublime and complex.. or heh.. both at the same time.. yeah yeah I know. the thing is that if you put a little passion and thought into it, they can both be very very rewarding.. at this point though I'd go with bland food and great sex..

which reminds me.. I figured out on of lifes great mysteries..

you can't have your cake and eat it too..
but..
you CAN halve your cake and eat it too..

damn.. the devils in the details

jaguar 05-07-2004 02:07 PM

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You do have an imagination, don't you?
I'm wondering.

beavis 05-07-2004 02:14 PM

i always get hungry after sex so i think i would be screwed without either one.

p.s. i thoroughly intended that awful pun.

Clodfobble 05-07-2004 03:11 PM

OK. It's cheese. But there must be something special about it if clodfobble is would choose it over sex. I've never found a cheese I felt that way about.

It's specifically more like a melted cheese sauce with tomatoes and peppers added that one dips chips into. Recipes and quality vary all over the place--the lowest common denominator would be Velveeta cheese and a can of Rotel.

That is not the kind I am talking about, however. There is a restaurant here called Kerbey Lane Cafe which uses white cheeses instead of yellow ones (which are much more common), as well as larger tomato chunks and a magical combination of peppers, and that stuff is heavenly. They even sell it in jars there, it's so popular.

perth 05-07-2004 03:16 PM

So where do you stand on the addition of black beans or ground beef to the mix?

Clodfobble 05-07-2004 03:21 PM

So where do you stand on the addition of black beans or ground beef to the mix?

They're both good, although I would prefer the black beans get very thoroughly drained before being added or the cheese gets lost.

But to me, that's really more like asking, "Can you put queso on black beans or ground beef?" And the answer is always yes, queso can be put on top of anything to make it better.

Undertoad 05-07-2004 03:38 PM

If this thread turns into a recipe discussion I think its question has been answered.

glatt 05-07-2004 03:41 PM

Sounds like you could drip it over the taut, quivering body of a sex partner and lick it off. Kind of like the dripping melted wax idea, but with cheese.

How's that for bringing it back around, UT?

perth 05-07-2004 03:46 PM

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Originally posted by Undertoad
If this thread turns into a recipe discussion I think its question has been answered.
Sorry about that, Toad. Looks like Glatt is getting it on the right track tho.

DanaC 05-07-2004 04:43 PM

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Food will never tell you that your apartment is too small and that it is time to get deeper into debt..
Yelof ducks and creeps off stage left
Ah dear me, That had made chuckle

mmm.....sex or food?...sex or food?....Depends on the sex.....depends on the food...I've had some great sex....but I have had some lousy sex too.....Had a few bloody good meals....eaten my share of tasteless crap.....

I dont go with that idea of even bad sex being better than no sex. Bad sex is not fun or pleasant its just.....bad.

blue 05-07-2004 06:52 PM

Yes please tell.

And could someone move this to the "what the fuck?" thread?

If you're choosing food over sex I'd love to see a picture of you.

And yes, bad sex IS better than no sex....but you're a woman right?

DanaC 05-07-2004 07:01 PM

*nods* I am ....and if that's why I think no sex is better than bad sex...well ok. I dont have huge difficulty in accepting that you lads get something out of it even if its bad...I would imagine given the physiological dynamics involved that guys and gals relate differently to this.

blue 05-07-2004 07:13 PM

I can't even pronounce physiological dynamics but we lads do indeed get "get something out of it".

Ah if only the womenfolk could be so simple. We'd all be so much better off, the women working with a smile on their face, the men sleeping it off....

marichiko 05-08-2004 01:38 PM

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Originally posted by blue58
Yes please tell.

And could someone move this to the "what the fuck?" thread?

If you're choosing food over sex I'd love to see a picture of you.

And yes, bad sex IS better than no sex....but you're a woman right?

I just happen to be of the female persuasion myself, and I agree with Dana that bad sex is worse than no sex. Can a man even experience "bad sex"? I will admit that given the choice of a "wham, bam, thank you ma'am" partner and a well broiled, medium rare steak, I'd take the steak. Wanna see my pic? :p

blue 05-08-2004 07:04 PM

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Can a man even experience "bad sex"?
A letdown maybe, but Bad...not really.

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Wanna see my pic?
Oh yeah!

Catwoman 05-10-2004 09:30 AM

Just to throw in the proverbial spanner, I am female, and would rather have bland sex than no sex. But then if its bland, its with the wrong person anyway, so, oh well, move onto the next one. Or eat some cake.

Radar 05-10-2004 11:47 AM

Yes, bad sex is better than no sex. Just as bad food is better than no food at all. If you were starving, would you rather have a peanut butter, pickle, and bologna sandwich (nasty) or nothing at all?

Women don't seem to understand how the male brain works. Sex is a physical need. It's a bodily function like eating or going to the bathroom. This is why women should not be surprised if when they try to use sex as a weapon by withholding, it backfires on them. If a woman stops cooking for her husband, it doesn't mean he's going to stop eating. He might make his own meals for awhile, but eventually he'll go out to eat. The same is true of sex.

It's possible for a man to have poor sex, but even poor sex is better than none at all.

I think part of the reason women don't understand this is because virtually any woman can have sex any time they wish.

When we're children, having ice-cream is a huge treat. We get very excited about it because we don't know when we might get ice-cream again. But when we turn into adults, and we can have it anytime we like, the excitement is gone. It's like predatory animals in the wild. The Lion is always hunting because it doesn't know where its next meal will come from. Lions in the zoo, with a steady supply of food aren't hunting but those in the wild have that hungry look on thier faces.

Women are the lion in the zoo. All they need to do is walk into any bar and say, "I'd like to have sex. Is there a man here who will have sex with me?" and they'd be having sex within the hour. Even an ugly or old woman could do this.

Men are the lion in the wild. We genuinely don't know when we're going to have sex again, especially considering the slightest thing will send a woman "out of the mood". This is why we're always hunting for sex and why we get excited about it like children with ice-cream.

lumberjim 05-10-2004 12:15 PM

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Originally posted by Radar
Yes, bad sex is better than no sex. Just as bad food is better than no food at all. If you were starving, would you rather have a peanut butter, pickle, and bologna sandwich (nasty) or nothing at all?


Lose the bologna, and you have yourself a tasty treat. I know it sounds nasty, but Jinx turned me onto it, and if it's a good dill pickle, and quality pb.......yuuuumy!

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Originally posted by Radar

If a woman stops cooking for her husband, it doesn't mean he's going to stop eating. He might make his own meals for awhile, but eventually he'll go out to eat. The same is true of sex.


with your wife in a different country, I suppose you've been doing a lot of both kinds of "home cookin"?

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Originally posted by Radar


Men are the lion in the wild. We genuinely don't know when we're going to have sex again, especially considering the slightest thing will send a woman "out of the mood". This is why we're always hunting for sex and why we get excited about it like children with ice-cream.

i beg to differ. married men over 30 will probably agree that if they want some nookie, little effort is required. Assuming you're doing it right, and your wife is game for a little slap and tickle. I wouldn;t go so far as to say I'm the lion in the zoo, but I would say I'm a Lion in a game preserve where the hunting is excellent.


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Originally posted by Radar


Women are the lion in the zoo. All they need to do is walk into any bar and say, "I'd like to have sex. Is there a man here who will have sex with me?" and they'd be having sex within the hour. Even an ugly or old woman could do this.


if a woman did that, she'd be having sex IN the bar within MINUTES....on the pool table, with a line forming behind her FIRST partner. At least, that's what it says in Penthouse.

SteveDallas 05-10-2004 12:24 PM

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Originally posted by lumberjim

if a woman did that, she'd be having sex IN the bar within MINUTES....on the pool table, with a line forming behind her FIRST partner. At least, that's what it says in Penthouse.

I never knew that. Thank God we have Penthouse to give us factual, unembroidered information about these things.

(Seriously, is Penthouse still around? I had read they were in serious financial trouble, for reasons that seemed mostly obvious.)

Radar 05-10-2004 12:30 PM

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Lose the bologna, and you have yourself a tasty treat. I know it sounds nasty, but Jinx turned me onto it, and if it's a good dill pickle, and quality pb.......yuuuumy!
I've got another one that sounds horrible, but it's really good. My grandma made me eat it and I couldn't believe it was good.

Peanut Butter + Mayo.

And a guy last week told me Peanut Butter + Sweet Pickles + Banana + Bacon

Freaky! The point is would you rather eat something that isn't very good or starve? Let's say you hate liver and onions (I happen to love it), and you haven't eaten in 3 days. Would you rather eat a plate of liver and onions or continue starving?


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with your wife in a different country, I suppose you've been doing a lot of both kinds of "home cookin"?
Sadly yes. I've had to wrestle the bald-headed champ a few times to tide me over.

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I wouldn;t go so far as to say I'm the lion in the zoo, but I would say I'm a Lion in a game preserve where the hunting is excellent.
Point taken, but I'd like to make sure she knows she's not doing me a favor by having sex. She has a good time and so do I. Nobody is doing anyone a favor.

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if a woman did that, she'd be having sex IN the bar within MINUTES....on the pool table, with a line forming behind her FIRST partner. At least, that's what it says in Penthouse.
True, but I'd assume she'd want to actually make it to a bed. I suppose if she wanted it right now, she could easily get someone to nail her in the parking lot or on the pool table.

The point is, men can't do that women can. Because they can have sex any time they want, sex isn't as important to them as it would be if they couldn't.

lookout123 05-10-2004 12:53 PM

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Originally posted by Tomas Rueda
As far as Im concerned, no, it is not.

it seems far outweighted but, if you abstain from eating or drinking, you'll be dead within the month. however if you abstaing from the other, well, lets just say monks have been doing it for years and years.

you're absolutely right, sort of... if you abstain from food and drink you will soon be dead.

if you abstain from sex you will soon WISH you were dead.

wolf 05-10-2004 01:23 PM

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originally posted by radar
Sadly yes. I've had to wrestle the bald-headed champ a few times to tide me over.


TMI

jaguar 05-10-2004 01:28 PM

Seconding wolf there.

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but I would say I'm a Lion in a game preserve where the hunting is excellent.
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At least, that's what it says in Penthouse.
hmmm LJ ;)
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The more I hear from Radar about women the more sure I am I was right the first time.

edited for clarity.

Radar 05-10-2004 01:33 PM

Neither of those quotes is mine. And if your first impression of me was that I'm an honest, straightforward, well-educated, reasonable, truthful, intelligent, guy who doesn't pull any punches, it was indeed correct.

I'm not saying what you want to hear, I'm telling you the truth whether you like it or not.

Tomas Rueda 05-10-2004 01:58 PM

So, Food is better than Sex?

Radar 05-10-2004 01:59 PM

The only time food is better than sex is when you're having sex with a wood chipper.

jaguar 05-10-2004 02:02 PM

Sorry if I made that hard to follow, the quotes were LJ, the hmm was about him.

Closer to arrogant, ignorant, chauvinistic, abusive and egotistical. but hey, close enough. I'm not saying what you want to hear, I'm telling you the truth whether you like it or not.

Very, very good meals are better than very, very bad sex but that's about the limit of it.

lumberjim 05-10-2004 02:09 PM

if you happen to be a praying mantis, you can do both!

jaguar 05-10-2004 02:11 PM

You don't have to be a praying mantis. Just...messy. Depends on the food too, steaming hot stuff might be a bad idea.

jinx 05-10-2004 02:28 PM

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I think part of the reason women don't understand this is because virtually any woman can have sex any time they wish.

Women are the lion in the zoo. All they need to do is walk into any bar and say, "I'd like to have sex. Is there a man here who will have sex with me?" and they'd be having sex within the hour. Even an ugly or old woman could do this.

[/b]
Couldn't virtually any man have sex any time he wanted - provided he wasn't opposed to paying for it?

lumberjim 05-10-2004 02:37 PM

[posessed by bruce] doesn't every man pay for sex every time he has it in one way or another?:)[/posessed by bruce]

Radar 05-10-2004 02:47 PM

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Closer to arrogant, ignorant, chauvinistic, abusive and egotistical. but hey, close enough. I'm not saying what you want to hear, I'm telling you the truth whether you like it or not.
Except for the fact that what you've said isn't the truth and what I've said actually is. None of what I've said even remotely resembles any of your descriptions.

Better descriptions of what I've said include but aren't limited to: insightful, unbiased, logical, poignant, articulate, intelligent, accurate, clear, concise, and factual. This is the truth whether or not you choose to admit it. And that's not egotistical or arrogant; it's just the way it is.

Sorry if you're a female chauvinist and can't see past your own ignorance. Hopefully you'll open your eyes someday.

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Couldn't virtually any man have sex any time he wanted - provided he wasn't opposed to paying for it?
That's not the same thing at all and it perpetuates the fallacy that a woman is doing a favor for a man by having sex with him.

The discussion had to do with the fact that a woman can have sex anytime she wants and a man can not. Let's assume that a man and a woman are both totally and completely broke. All they own is the clothes on their back and each of them are 8,000 miles apart from each other. Each walks into a bar and says, "I want to have sex with anyone who is willing". Which one of them get's laid, and which gets thrown out of the bar, or ridiculed by the opposite sex?


jaguar 05-10-2004 02:49 PM

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Better descriptions of what I've said include but aren't limited to: insightful, unbiased, logical, poignant, articulate, intelligent, accurate, clear, concise, and factual. This is the truth whether or not you choose to admit it. And that's not egotistical or arrogant; it's just the way it is.
*bows*
Case closed.

Radar 05-10-2004 02:53 PM

Amazing that you would close a case without proving anything. But hey, that's your style. I prefer to back up what I say with reason, logic, and facts.

I've proven my case, and you have proven nothing but your bad attitude, bitterness, ignorance, and bias.

warch 05-10-2004 03:46 PM

Dang Radar, I tried what you said. I walked into a bar and announced that I wanted to get laid. They laughed and threw me out. Not one taker. What does that mean? I am too old and hideous? Was is a gay bar? Am I now able to appreciate sex like a man? (I settled for a basket of fries.)

(Speaking of Queso....and if your in Texas anyway...Check out Shady Grove's Green Chilie Cheese Fries. They rival lively foreplay for pleasure.)

Good food trumps a bad partner. But good sex makes you forget to eat.

lumberjim 05-10-2004 03:49 PM

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Originally posted by warch
Dang Radar, I tried what you said. I walked into a bar and announced that I wanted to get laid. They laughed and threw me out. Not one taker.
what's that smell?


oh....i see....its bull:turd:

warch 05-10-2004 04:03 PM

no, just queso. :)

Radar 05-10-2004 04:34 PM

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what's that smell?


oh....i see....its bull:turd:
I think I smell that too.

ladysycamore 05-10-2004 05:19 PM

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Originally posted by DanaC


Ah dear me, That had made chuckle

mmm.....sex or food?...sex or food?....Depends on the sex.....depends on the food...I've had some great sex....but I have had some lousy sex too.....Had a few bloody good meals....eaten my share of tasteless crap.....

I dont go with that idea of even bad sex being better than no sex. Bad sex is not fun or pleasant its just.....bad.

Yeah, what she said! :D

ladysycamore 05-10-2004 05:27 PM

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Originally posted by Tomas Rueda
So, Food is better than Sex?
Well, ok. Here's my take on it.

I would say it depends on the person and how often they need/want sex. I have a friend who has rarely been without a man in her life, and she's getting it almost on a daily. She's somewhat of a sexaholic anyway (not saying that in a "bad" way, although she has gotten herself in plenty of trouble on more than one occasion because of this).

Food is something that people "need": sex is what most people "want". In other words, you need food to live, not sex (no matter what people may say, and no jokes please...please? Thanks).

I don't think you'll get a definitive answer here. Various people think differently about whether or not food is better than sex. Although, it seems to me that more people complain about their sex lives than food...;)

Radar 05-10-2004 05:37 PM

Sex is a physical NEED (at least for men)

Men genuinely need some physical release or they could become unstable. I don't mean this as a joke. It's a physical need every bit as much as eating, breathing, or going to the bathroom. The fact that we can go longer without sex doesn't make it any less of a need.


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