France did something right for once!
 

I just read about this 30ish year old man who tried to run down a guy who looked like Osama just cause of the physical likeness. If only the world was like this......that would be nuts.

"Yes, people with beards are not trustworthy....."

Keeps the clippers and the Glock handy.

Not just a joke. People with beards and mustaches, statistically, don't get elected today. Curious what we use to decide who (what) is trustworthy. Which then raises the question - could we elect a woman who does not shave her underarms?

How the hell would anyone know? By the time most women get to the "electable" age, they stop wearing tank tops to cabinet meetings...

- Pie

There's always some nude photograph hiding about somewhere. Just ask Venessa Williams - former Miss America from NJ. Wouldn't be a problem in France - neither the nude picture nor the hair.

Yawn! Get over the fact that France didnt help you in your illegal war in Iraq.

And I'm positive you didnt think them a waste of space when they aided you in Afghanistan.

Welcome to the Cellar Scrunchy:)
I do. As a matter of fact they've been worse than that (think hindrance) in every war since the American revolution. In WW I, they probably caused more American casualties than the Germans.

Yeah, I kinda thought that an old oilman like Dubya would have respected the fact that France was standing on their moral imperative to get all those Iraqi oil contract dollars they had pending.

One word: Vichy

I have a french rifle from that war. Never been fired. only dropped once, too.

F the french. and the cheese they rode in on.





and Cougar, ....."fart on out?" .......mmmmpphh. where'd ya get THAT? Outtakes from the Partridge Family?

shit. that was actually me

Damnit. I keep clicking on this thread thinking that it will be interesting, and it isn't.

At one point the French in Afghanistan ignored a direct order due to supposedly political reasons. Their military is useless and yes, not needed to manage Afghanistan or any other conflict.

A nervous looking man with a beard and a Glock could very well be on your team.

Confirm all soft targets before firing.

Thanks OC..that was my laugh for the day! :D

"never trust a white man with a beard, or a black man without one."

-my boss's comment when he realized i was growing a beard

don't get what the fuck you people have against the french. I mean whoopdefucking do, they actually stood up to your chief asshole and told him to take his war and shove it up his ass if he wasn't going to follow even the most brief of diplomatic niceties that international diplomacy runs on. Take a look at the protests today, most of the world thinks you shouldn't have invaded. Your hamfisted 'war on terror' has resulted only in fanning the flames of islamic extremism by demonstrating America's imperialist nature first hand and turned yet more of world opinion against america. Why single out the french? The koreans who's electronics you buy hate your country far more than the french.

Personally I think it's because they they produce such wonderful food and don't get fat, a whole nation of fatassed envious slobs.

*gets out the flame retardant suit*

(slang laughs his fat ass off while gorging himself with Italian pizza)

you ignorant fatassed slobs wouldn't know a real Italian pizza verses the violated corpse of italian pizza you eat if I slapped you in the face with one!

this is kinda fun. I see where talk show hosts get their kicks now.

Didnt anyone tell you LJ, I'm a black conservative Christian Republican rural dude.

So that means..........you can trust me. Watch out for those cracker CCRR dudes though.

ermmm.....i've seen your picture at the forks party....and even if i hadn't, black christian conservatives don;t say "dude" ; much less refer to themselves as one.
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nice try....shave it, osama!

Pardon me for interrupting here.

The CIA spook guarding my cell happened to leave his laptop connected and within reach through the bars. I couldnt help reading through the Cellar.org as well as many other sites whose members have support my efforts to stay in power....killing at will....etc, etc

Anyway, having seen the pic of slang listed here I can say with absolute confidence that he doesnt look like my dear old friend OBL. The only visual similarities are the beards.

Osama is in the cell next to mine.......until the end of Oct when he'll likely have an unfortunate "accident" and his body will show up somewhere in Baghdad.

Bushwhacked

Sad Hus

sorry, everyone! won't happen again. I have to remember to lock my keyboard when i go pee.


who you callin spook? looks like more electroshock for you, saddam.

They didn't stand up to anybody. Oh, they might have protested a little, but you didn't see them start any form or sanctions or trade embargos and you didn't see them send anyone to stop us either.

I'll aree with that, with some reservations.

Because the french are rude, smelly and self-absorbed. if they had done something to deserve it they might warrant some respect; I might cut them some slack. The only war they ever won was the French Revolution and look at the competition.

Their food isn't THAT good. Now what it turned into when it landed here in Louisiana is another thing entirely.

And envious? Not likely, I mean one division of tanks could take care of them. Wait... That's been done already. Sorry, never mind.

Where are you from?

Edit: damn punctuation; left out a question

Jag, this fatassed slob resents your accusation. Personally, I have disliked the french, since before you were born. Don't care much for their cooking, either. :p

France did something right for once
 

Hey I can see how you guys in the US are not too fond of the French, between them and the Germans they can cause serious mayhem in Europe and elsewhere in the world.
But whats this about people with beards being not trustworthy
Hurrrummph!!!My chins not seen the light of day since about 1979 but I'm as honest as the day is long..
Looking through some photos held in the Cellar archives there's quite a few of us not short of facial hair.

Could this be beard envy? People who have tried to grow them and failed (could be a case for counselling).

If you have tried and failed go on have another go you can do it.

Beardies of the world unite :D

Re: France did something right for once
 

We could call ourselves the He-Man Hirsute Horde or some such alliterative title.

Jag, I think the "general" issue against the French is their "snooty attitude." I think we still expect them to kiss our asses because we liberated them in WW2.

Personally, I don't like the French because they treated their colonies like absolute shit and ranted against the war on a humanitarian slant, when it would seem it was more an issue of economics for them.

You know, you called it our war, but last I checked, Australia was a member of the COW, so it's your war, too...or are you going to pull the Swiss card out? :)

I don't think the people of North Koreans hate us any more than we hate them. Our respective governments have some issues, tho but I don't see that trickling down to a personal level.

The actual citizens of France hate the actual citizen of the United States. They always have and they always will. I spent enough time there to know. And, as Bruce indicated, this goes wayyyy back.

Fuck the French.

The people of North Korea are completely and totally fucked.

I believe there is no other word to describe them.

They're pretentious assholes.

Our hatred of the french predates the Iraq war, Jag.

These are people who eat snails, bathe infrequently, and love Jerry Lewis.

We hate them because they are french, not because of what they do.

Ok first things first.
Hands up here who's heard of the French Foreign Leigon. Yea the guys with the funny white hats. Outside special forces I challange you to find a more hardarsed, hardened, battle-ready force. They've been in countless conflicts actoss africa and some of the shite they did in Vietnam...utterly insane. Take Dien Bien Phu. The last regiment to give way was the French Foreign Leigon, they ran out of ammo and held off the vietcong for a day and a half, under heavily artillery fire with hand-to-hand weaponary. I've heard countless examples of these guys. One guy's scout tank got hit my a mine in algeria, rest of the screw survived, with a skull fracture and a shattered elbow he managed to fucking walk back to base, took 2 days.

Secondly, move french I've met smell of Gvinchey or Chanel.

Thirdly, I don't get the obsession with French military history. I mean is that the only measure of the greatness of a nation? I mean you know, sod the fact they set up a fantastic secular republic, forget the cultural achievements et al.

Considering the role they played in your civil war I find the whole thing kind of amusing if very silly.

and why are YOU pissed at the french OnxyCougar. Beestie, trust me, it's far worse in South Korea. Most of Europe doesn't like America, Switzerland, Germany, Italy, Spain are all places where general sentiment is anti-american.

who's heard of the French Foreign Leigon.

Those guys arn't even french , why do you think they are called the Foreign Leigon ?????

Bad ass ??? No dought !!! but French ????
NOT !!!!!!!

Many of them are French, it's a French army led by Frenchmen.

What would you call it?

Until they need something from us. Yea, I know they dont need anything from us now.........and probably wont ever again.

Last I checked there was a penality tariiff in place on your exports to Europe in fact.

You were the one that brought up the military (Afganistan) and I pointed out that's not the only reason to dislike them.
I was under the impression that French citizens were not allowed to serve in the foriegn legion. Those that did, were hiding under an assumed name.

It's common enough, I know a few people that did a stint and my great uncle was in for 10 years. They take all types to say the least. If everything ever goes to shit, I keep enough money in a seperate account to get me to france and in.

As for the military thing, every time I hear this antifrench thing raise it's head the main angle of attack always seems to be 'they got invaded, and we bailed them out, ha, ha, ha'.

So basically what you are saying is that all the tough guys in France are in one division and only some of them are French and they might have to sneak in.

Got it.

A picture is worth how much again? :)

Succinct.

I like that.

Want to REALLY piss off a frog? Ask them:

"Hey, when are YOU guys going to use the Arche de Triomphe (sp)?"

http://homepage.mac.com/mjohnson1/.P...-explosion.jpg A proud moment in American military history.
What's your point.

The FFL are like the Marines. First in, last out. Bah, i honestly don't get this whole thing, I don't get the logic and the arguements seem childish at best.

Aw c'mon Jag, you come from a country that worships its tough guys and has a ton of 'em. In fact, are there any sensitive metrosexual types in Aussieland?

How convenient (to promote hate) that some forget the recent French military action (Ivory Coast) to save hundreds of American lives. Jaguar is correct. So much hate expressed against the French as if they were black and should be called niggers. Ironic since as we now know the French about one year ago were better patrioitic Americans that George Jr. French told the truth about Iraq.

Patriotic Americans don't let silly emotions manipulate their thinking. Too many (the emotional) back then forget: war first must be justified by a smoking gun. As we all know - and there is no dispute about this - there was no smoking gun in Iraq. France was saying so which is why the French were acting as better patriotic Americans than many Americans.

We had a president with a pre-conceived agenda- facts be damned. An agenda that even justified outright lying and outing a CIA agent. That feared to send the 10th Mountain Division into Tora Bora to get bin Landen. An agenda that caused many fools in America to instead insult the French. Every week Americans come home missing limbs - a tribute to Americans who foolishly want to save the entire world even where it does not want to be saved. Same people who would than insult the French.

Why not insult the Italians who gave us the lies about Iraqi uranium from Niger? Or the British who gave us Tony Blair's lies about WMD that could be launched in minutes? These emotional types should instead be insulting the British and Italians who helped get us into war - and therefore protected Osama bin Laden. Why do we not go after bin Laden for years? We must attack Saddam only because he is Saddam - as proven by lies from the British and Italians. At least that would be hate (of British and Italians) that was justified by facts.

Eh, there's enough fact out there to justify American dislike of the French.

I think if I hear one more thing about the nobility of the French in opposing the Iraq invasion, I shall puke.

*No one* in the world does anything out of a sense of justice or altruism. There's always either a financial or political motive.

http://washingtontimes.com/upi-break...4014-7323r.htm

Tom Friedman, the NYT author who is the source of most of tw's information, instructs you: "Things do not cease to be true just because George W. believes in them."

Freidman skewered [France's foreign minister] de Villepin for saying there was "no terrorism in Iraq before the war". Skewered him good with example after example of how Iraq was a center for terrorism. The only way to say there was no terrorism in Iraq before the war was to say that all of it was justified because it was done in the government's name.

If the French wanted to prevent war they should have put the screws to Hussein. They might have convinced him to step down without a battle at all. But they didn't, because they were in on the deal, for billion$ in contracts and fetid oil-for-food corruption deals which swayed their interests. So, instead, they helped convince him he could stay in power.

Don't for one second thing I think the french objected to the war purely on moral grounds. I'm still glad they did. Ditto for Germany.

That's as bad as me calling all american's fatassed slobs.
Trust me, Melbourne has to be the metrosexual capital of the Southern Hemisphere. Was one of the places they first started releasing makeup for guys for crying out loud.

Ep, I wouldn't put too much stock in that. I don't trust the Moonies, and can't find that story from any other "reliable" source.

This is simply wild unjustified speculation and best described as an outright lie. We now know the screws were so strongly applied to Saddam that he voluntarily eliminated in 1996 any last program that clearly met the WMD definition.

There were no screws that could have made Saddam step down voluntarily. But then who cares? He was not even a threat to his neighbors. And he would never be a threat to the US - since that was his policy throughout his entire carrer. Saddam did everything possible to avoid conflicts with the US. Unfortunately for Saddam, he made a mistake in Kuwait after we all but let him believe he could invade Kuwait.

It is silly to the point of brain deficiency to think that the French could have caused Saddam to step down. It is naive to say the French encouraged Saddam to remain in power. It was responsible to take the same position as the French did - which is why most all the world opposes the US invasion of Iraq.

BTW, Tom Friedman is not a source of information. But since number of sources tend to be fairly large, then a Tom Friedman source certainly could have been in among the thousands. In the mentime, hate of France for opposing war is akin to hate of the black man - both based upon unjustified and emotional biases.

I think the only point why Americans don't like French is the fact that France is the only nation in Europe who has the bullocks not to follow America. Gremany doesn't really want to do it because they have a minority-complex because WW, UK is an american colony, Italy isn't worth talking (the worst army in Europe). Poland , Spain and Netherlands only follow the big brother because they fear some punishment from US...

Yeah. No reason they should take sides with the US...not until some despot rears up their ugly head and starts rolling through the EU Nations. Then, I imagine, they'll have a little more appreciation for our military power and policies. At least, that seems to have been the formula so far.

What's that saying ... you know, the one about "Those who do not remember the past ..."

And so only 30 some years later, we again forget the past and invade another sovereign nation for no good reason. A major lesson from history - the smoking gun must exist before going to war. Because of Pearl Harbor, American was a far more virile nation and a much greater threat to the Axis powers. Spies in America. No way, because a powerful smoking gun existed. It is the repeated lessons of history and even a concept found in the teachings of Sun Tzu (before Christ). A clear reason must exist to go to war so that the army and nation can be effective. Those are the brutal lessons of history. The only war lost by the US is VietNam because we went to war 1) on a lie and 2) with no smoking gun.

Could the WTC attack be avoided? Maybe. But no thanks to efforts by the George Jr administration. This latest accusation from a 30 year professional who was right there watching an agenda be more important than reality. Or the three FBI investigation teams who were outrightly ordered not to investigate what we now know to be the WTC attackers. There is another lesson of history. 85% of all problems are directly traceable to top management. In this case, top management had more interest in a political agenda than in protecting America - even to the point of making loyalty to the boss more important than the truth or loyalty to the nation.

French Policy Still Vigorously Criticized By Iraqis

Even in Peter Jennings reports last week from Iraq, the people are no better off than under Saddam. That is the short term. People assume things will get better. They assume their life that is currently worse will, in the long term, get better. But those comments about France, et al can be found anywhere if one just searches the internet long enough. Those comments about France are typical of Rush Limbaugh journalism. Peter Jennings better described what is important.

Bottom line - Iraq even has less electricity than it did under Saddam. There was one day where the electric supply exceeded pre-war production. You know that day because the George Jr administration made sure it was reported.

All that looting is directly traceable to Rumsfeld, et al who knew better than experts. Rumsfeld et al who did not provide enough troops, mocked the generals for claiming a need for more troops, and even had no - nada - not one plan for a post war Iraq. In his great knowledge, Rumsfeld knew mocked the experts claiming widespread looting did not exist. As a result, Iraq is still is recovering from damage directly traceable to a total disbanning of the Iraqi Army and Police. That disbanning is a violation of principles stated even in SunTzu's famous pre-Christian work - the Art of War.

OK. We have created a worse life style for Iraqis. At least they have the oppurtunity to make things better than in Saddam's day. That point specifically made by Peter Jennings. But here is the problem. We must worrying about Civil War. We are pulling out on 1 July no matter what (N Korea should worry they are next). Good news is that Civil War is listed as a possibility meaning that Civil War probably will not happen. That is good news for Iraqis. In the meantime, folks - expect to subsibize another country at the expense of our standard of living and more budget deficiets - for probably the next 5 or ten years. We created this mess. Now we must pay BIG TIME. We will pay more to rebuild Iraq than the entire US budget to help every African nation. And Iraq is an oil rich nation!

A mental midget president said Iraq would pay for its reconstruction with $2billion from oil revenues. 1) Oil is not even bringing in $2billion. 2) It will cost America $400billion plus to fix the mess we made. How did $2billion become $400 billion? A lying president.

Thank god at least someone talks politely about the mental midget president. He needs some friends who don't mind another welfare nation on our payroll.

How often are his lies? Only one day did Iraq equal the electric production of Saddam's Iraq. Geroge Jr made sure you knew when that one day happened. Best we can do is provide Iraq with 90% to 95% of the electricity they once had. But George Jr would have you believe otherwise so that his friends will praise him.