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Undertoad 03-18-2004 10:52 AM

3/18/2004: Locust swarm
 
http://cellar.org/2004/locusts.jpg

Our Aussie friends might have something to say about this. It's the outback, New South Wales where thousands upon thousands of locusts are swarming for the last few days. Apparently it was caused by strange weather patterns because it followed a period of heavy rains. They're spraying to try to prevent breeding, but area farmers have lost most of their crops. full story

It turns out adult locusts can migrate 300 miles overnight. Coming soon to a town near you?

glatt 03-18-2004 11:38 AM

After she finishes sweeping them up, what's she gonna do with them? Where's she gonna put them?

Elspode 03-18-2004 11:53 AM

Locust recipes...

Pi 03-18-2004 01:21 PM

During a survival training we were told that a locust, depending on the size, has more proteins than a steak.
So we tried it out, there're a lot of different possibilities, I prefere them in boiling oil with a little honey on them, really crusty :)

funkykule 03-18-2004 02:01 PM

:vomit:
I'm not feeling the best today so thanx for pushing my stomach that bit further Pi :D

ndetroit 03-18-2004 02:04 PM

(besides people) What eats locusts, naturally ?

birds? really big birds? Lizards of some sort? .... I wonder what kind of a "trickle up" effect this has on the ecology..

Leah 03-18-2004 03:35 PM

Oh my god, they had better not head over my way (Sydney). I hate those things, I hate anything that jumps or has more then 4 legs and belongs to the critter world, I'll be screaming the house down if I have even one in my place, :worried:

glatt 03-18-2004 03:48 PM

So we can add bugs to the list of things Leah hates.

Let's see, 1) strange people from different cultures 2) family members of terrorists 3) bugs.

Anything else? Please share your hatred with us some more.

Leah 03-18-2004 03:51 PM

No, that just about sums it up for me. But spiders are on the top of my list.:)

Griff 03-18-2004 04:44 PM

Man, the chickens would love that.

Pi 03-18-2004 05:19 PM

Didn't you know that mostly everybody swallows up to 8 spiders during his life, and most of them while sleeping?
I solved the problem by catching 8 spiders and eating them with some ketchup. The only thing I didn't like were the hairy legs...
:yum:

Leah 03-18-2004 05:50 PM

No way, not me. Although I have swallowed a fly :vomit:
I'd rather not think about that.

Sun_Sparkz 03-18-2004 06:55 PM

Yeah this looks funny, and can be fun for 10 minits as you run around the yard as a tordado of hoppers fly sky high at your every step, but after that its just annoying. and noisy.

My mum (and all her neighbours in country NSW) have lost thousands of dollars worth of oats, and the already starving lambs have now much less food to eat poor babys. a good thing though, my mum said they appear not to be eating the hay stored that we have, because it is not green.

Just another slap in the face for us, 1st the droght, then the fires, then the flood, now this. what next?

Clodfobble 03-18-2004 07:12 PM

The plague.

Then Armageddon.

Sun_Sparkz 03-18-2004 07:15 PM

:worried:

But i havent even started my list yet!!!

Pearcie (AUS) 03-18-2004 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sun_Sparkz
Just another slap in the face for us, 1st the droght, then the fires, then the flood, now this. what next?
Come on Sparkz, it could be a lot worse. We could have suicide bombers blowin up our trains and buses or landmarks.

Sun_Sparkz 03-18-2004 07:52 PM

Im not even comparing it to a tradgedy like that. Noone could.

(though it may not be far off) i work in the CBD, spend 3 hours a day on a train and my building is right above the wynyard tunnel, trust me i know it could be a LOT worse!

I am just saying it feels like its never going to end. I mean for me i think the drought was the worst to experience, here in the city youd see ppl watering their gardens and having fountins flowing and on the weekend id go home and see my family digging tips for dead cows that had to be shot because there was no more food, and selling sheep for 15 cents each at the saleyard (if they didnt sell they to were shot). And then we had about 16 paddocks catch on fire which could have been a blessing in disguise because some crop started to grow from the burnt ground but it was then drowned in a flood ( not all that much rain but the ground (ruined from drought) wouldnt take the water) that was a couple of motnhs ago, a fresh crop (10,000) was about 14 days off release and little bugs come and eat it all.

My family doesn't rely solely on farming for our income, we all work independantly and the farm managers look after the homestead, but i couldnt imagine the stress this would have on FT farmers. no wonder there are so many suicides in Country NSW.

It sounds like im whinging but im not, im just giving the cellar my view on the IOD, what its like for me and how it affects us. im not comparing our situation to any other situation.

Griff 03-18-2004 07:56 PM

Drought, fire, flood, that's not whining. Folks go on about much less. I hope your weather patterns straighten out down there.

Pearcie (AUS) 03-18-2004 07:59 PM

Disasters
 
Sparkz, didn't mean to offend. I wasn't inferring that you were comparing the farm disasters with terrorism I was just taking the viewpoint of 'No matter how bad it seems there is almost always someone out there who's got it worse than you/us'. I'm not from the country so I don't actually 'know' what it's like to have to deal with such problems. I can imagine how p!ssed you would be seein fountains running etc. (although the water in those fountains should not be drinkable water - hopefully) ppl washing their cars with water that could keep your livestock alive for a little longer, that would really be hard to cope with.

Sun_Sparkz 03-18-2004 08:04 PM

No offense taken, i know you didnt mean that i just wanted to clarify

:D

Pearcie (AUS) 03-18-2004 08:08 PM

All Good
 
Sweet :)

Has that Krispy Kreme opened at Wynyard yet??
I'm stinging to get a box but I aint goin to Parramatta or wherever the other store is.

Leah 03-18-2004 08:22 PM

Hey Pearcie, what's this Krispy Kreme stuff your talking about.

Pearcie (AUS) 03-18-2004 08:48 PM

Krispy Kreme
 
An amazing donut store. Been out in the states for ages, only just recently came to Oz, ones sposed to be opening at Wynyard soon, or may have already. I want some!!!

Leah 03-18-2004 08:51 PM

I want one also, I'll authorise your travel to go and get us some, Ok.:beer:

Pearcie (AUS) 03-18-2004 08:54 PM

College Vehicle
 
Can you sort it out so I can take the college vehicle, I'm low on petrol ;)

Leah 03-18-2004 09:04 PM

No problem, just don't tell YOU KNOW WHO.

Sun_Sparkz 03-18-2004 09:50 PM

out of the loop
 
no it hasnt opened here yet, ill be the first to know one of my collegues is a "friend of krispy kreames" he has a hat and a badge its so funny. but they are SO YUMMY!!

i think ill put on about 10 kilo in the 1st week they do open though:(

YUM!! :D

richlevy 03-18-2004 09:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Pi
During a survival training we were told that a locust, depending on the size, has more proteins than a steak.
So we tried it out, there're a lot of different possibilities, I prefere them in boiling oil with a little honey on them, really crusty :)

Just think of them as 'land shrimp'.:yum:

dar512 03-18-2004 10:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Leah
No way, not me. Although I have swallowed a fly.

"I don't know why she swallowed the fly. Perhaps she'll die."

My kids are still young enough that I remember reading that to them over and over. That's one of those experiences with my kids that I won't miss. Too repititious.

bluesdave 03-18-2004 10:19 PM

Just to clarify the water situation down here, the CSIRO (Aussie scientific research organisation), released a report last year that found that over 98% of water usage in Australia occurs *outside* of the major cities. It is a myth that the cities waste huge quantities of water, thus depriving the rural areas. The report actually recommended that water be diverted *from* rural areas to the cities, to support future population growth.

I'm not, repeat, not saying that no water is wasted in the cities, just that the extent of this wastage is nowhere near what is commonly believed.

Sun_Sparkz 03-18-2004 10:30 PM

yeah some rural areas do tend do waste a bit of it because you go outside and see that the dam is full or the tanks are up, so you might splurge out on a bath or water the lawn, but i assure you on our property its very rare. we dont irrigate either. Some farmers continued to drip for a while but its so obivious when you have a green lot in a land of brown and red. they were so unpopular at the local on a friday let me tell you!

also the areas in surveys like these classify places like the NSW central coast and surrounding areas as "country" areas. which they aren't. i now reside here and people call it "the country" and its just as much conjested as the city is. (well, nearly)

during the drought there were warning to please do not water your garden and if you really need to only do it at night (so it wouldnt evaporate immidently) some of my city neighbours would leave it on ALL night. water spilling blocks down the street. DUH.

elSicomoro 03-18-2004 10:49 PM

The Aussies are getting KK's...oh what a joy they are...like little pieces of heaven in your mouth.

Hmmm...might be time for a late-night run down to Cottman and Bustleton...

Sun_Sparkz 03-18-2004 11:18 PM

krispy kreaames with locust sprinkles.

Olikat 03-19-2004 12:50 AM

yikes, I just got home from the Block of Orange ( near Disneyland) and there was a Krispy Kreme on the way to the freeway. Very difficult to fight the temptation. The worst part is if you buy a dozen sometimes they give you another dozen for free!!

Oh, about the locust at least they don't hang around too long I don't think. I hear they're nasty little creatures.

BrianR 03-19-2004 07:24 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by richlevy


Just think of them as 'land shrimp'.:yum:


But, are they kosher?

chrisinhouston 03-19-2004 08:57 AM

Texas size roaches!
 
Nothing a little DDT can't fix!

lumberjim 03-19-2004 09:00 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Leah
No way, not me. Although I have swallowed a fly :vomit:
I'd rather not think about that.

I knew an old lady that swallowed a fly. It wiggled and jiggled and tickled inside her. I don;t know why she swallowed that fly. Perhaps she'll die.

wolf 03-19-2004 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Leah
Oh my god, they had better not head over my way (Sydney). I hate those things, I hate anything that jumps or has more then 4 legs and belongs to the critter world, I'll be screaming the house down if I have even one in my place, :worried:
Leah, would you like to come visit my office when the 17 year cicaidas attack philadelphia?

linknoid 03-19-2004 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by lumberjim


I knew an old lady that swallowed a fly. It wiggled and jiggled and tickled inside her. I don;t know why she swallowed that fly. Perhaps she'll die.


Sorry for going so far off on a tangent, but:

I know an old lady who swallowed a fly, I don't know why she swallowed the fly, perhaps she'll die.

I know an old lady who swallowed a spider, it wiggled and jiggled and tickled inside her. She swallowed the spider to catch the fly...

I know an old lady who swallowed a bird, isn't that absurd to swallow a bird. She swallowed the bird to catch the spider...

I know an old lady who swallowed a cat. Imagine that, to swallow a cat...

I know an old lady who swallowed a dog, what a hog to swallow a dog...

I know an old lady who swallowed a goat, she just opened her throat to swallow the goat...

I know an old lady who swallowed a cow, I don't know how she swallowed the cow...

I know an old lady who swallowed a horse. She's dead of course (song ends immediately)

jaguar 03-20-2004 01:47 AM

Ok I'm feeling the need to weight in here.
First of all, it's NSW, they deserve it. (joke, I'm a melbourne boy).

Secondly, while those of us in the city are not watering our fucking potplants the bloody farmers are often using OPEN DITCH irrigation with a total water loss of around 90 fucking percent.

The only reason nothing is done about it because the fucking electoral regions give a stupid amount of power to the 15% of the population who don't like in major population centres. If you choose to live in buttfuck, rural victoria, don't expect world class hospitals, high speed broadband and perfect 3G coverage.


xoxoxoBruce 03-20-2004 06:33 AM

Quote:

The only reason nothing is done about it because the fucking electoral regions give a stupid amount of power to the 15% of the population who don't like in major population centres.
Why is that, Jag? :confused:

jaguar 03-20-2004 08:07 AM

Because the area and location of each seat was set in another time and unsurprisingly I'm sure legislation to reduce their power in line with their percentage of the population wouldn't be that trendy. Catch-22 really.

I'm just so sick of the 'little jimmy suffered severed burning after he accidently poured petrol on himself while having a smoke and had it took an hour for an ambulance to come, in the city, it's only 40 minutes! O

Or that fairly recent case where a family where the mother was blind and the son suffered from a severe type of asthema moved to an extremely remote location. Their phone line went down, it took telstra 5 days or so to fix it, in the meantime, the kid had a severe asthma attack and died. They tried an action against optus coz their mobiel was out of range. If you're blind and have a son with a severe medical condition and you choose to move to the middle of fucking nowhere you deserve what you get.

xoxoxoBruce 03-20-2004 11:11 AM

Are the phone and medical services state run, monopolies or free market services provided by supply/demand constraints?
The "electoral regions" have equal say in the government, regardless of the population in them?
Any of you other Strines have 2 cents to add?:)

jaguar 03-20-2004 12:48 PM

The vast majority of health infrastructure is public, there are some private hospitals. Telstra is 51% owned by the government and owns the existing copper network, it must provide competitors access to this network to varying degrees in different ways. Optus, now owned by Singtel has a cable network in most major cities that it also provides phone services over. There are 4 major competing mobile networks.

Yes on the electoral power.

But don't, for one second point to the american model of privatization as the answer to these problems. I find your health system morally reprehensible at best and your mess of a utility system a joke. I've firsthand witnessed privatization and attempts there of in various countries over time and seen nothing but increased costs and declining services, often with little or no government saving and on occasion, increased governmental costs. Putting essential infrastructure in the hands of private enterprise neither has any real benefits for the consumer and gives companies little or no motivation to upgrade or improve infrastructure. It's a fundamentally flawed idea with little or no merit.

xoxoxoBruce 03-20-2004 05:17 PM

Calm down, Jag. I wasn't setting you up, just curious.:)

CharlieG 03-22-2004 07:14 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Leah
No way, not me. Although I have swallowed a fly :vomit:
I'd rather not think about that.

Now you can answer the question WHY you swallowed the fly...

Leah 03-22-2004 03:17 PM

I don't know why I swallowed the fly, perhaps I'll die.:band:

ladysycamore 03-22-2004 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by wolf


Leah, would you like to come visit my office when the 17 year cicaidas attack philadelphia?

Christ Almighty, I am NOT looking forward to that! It was bad enough when they came 17 years ago, and now (being more bug-a-phobic more than ever), I just want to lock myself indoors until they are gone...ha! :worried:

Leah 03-22-2004 03:28 PM

We get them over here in Sydney, honestly how big can they get?

Happy Monkey 03-22-2004 04:03 PM

You have 17-year cicadas in Australia? I thought they were a North American thing. The issue isn't so much the size (though that's a big part of it), as the number. Essentially, we're about to get a swarm of cicadas on a similar scale as the locust swarm in the picture.

Griff 03-22-2004 07:03 PM

Mostly it's the hideous noise.

xoxoxoBruce 03-22-2004 08:33 PM

Cricket overpowers locusts.:)


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