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dar512 02-17-2004 04:27 PM

gifts for guys
 
Here you are women. A free tip from me to you.

Wondering what to get your guy? Let me recommend a book.

It's cheap and I don't know a single guy who wouldn't love this thing: "The Worst-Case Scenario Survival Handbook" by Joshua Piven & David Borgenicht.

Step by step advice on how to

- Escape from quicksand
- Wrestle an alligator
- Break down a door
- Avoid being shot

and lots more. Yes I know that it's unlikely that any of these things will ever happen to us. But we like that kind of stuff 'cause - you never know.

Sorry this advice was too late for Valentine's day. My wife borrowed the audio version of the book from the library for me to listen to on the way to visit family in St. Louis this past weekend. As I was driving and listening, I thought how cool it was that my wife knew to borrow this for me. And that proceeded to - "What guy wouldn't like this book?"

Undertoad 02-17-2004 04:33 PM

A cordless screwdriver is actually much more practical and useful than it would seem.

Especially with a full set of bits.

SteveDallas 02-17-2004 05:00 PM

Re: gifts for guys
 
Quote:

Originally posted by dar512

- Avoid being shot

and lots more.

Does it explain how to escape a flame war? How about how to avoid being "invited" to a meeting where you're just asked to reiterate what you've already said several times? Can it help you escape a slow and painful death when your only Valentine's Day present to your wife was a $100 gift certificate to Victoria's Secret?

These are, you understand, strictly hypothetical situations.

xoxoxoBruce 02-17-2004 05:25 PM

The Victoria's Secret gift is not necessarally a bad thing. They have things that are comfortable and women actually like. The downside is it could be perceived as a test. Will she buy something she likes or something he likes to rip off her.

SteveDallas 02-17-2004 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by xoxoxoBruce
I shaved on New Years Eve.......1969.
Cool, so you're beard's older than I am! :beer:

quzah 02-17-2004 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Undertoad
A cordless screwdriver is actually much more practical and useful than it would seem.
None of the screwdrivers I've ever seen have had cords...

Quzah.

xoxoxoBruce 02-17-2004 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by quzah

None of the screwdrivers I've ever seen have had cords...

Quzah.

I have one. I also have one that takes an air hose.:rolleyes:

xoxoxoBruce 02-17-2004 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SteveDallas

Cool, so you're beard's older than I am! :beer:

Yeah, it's been voting for quite some time but we don't always agree because it's a democrat and I'm an Independent.;)

dar512 02-17-2004 09:05 PM

Re: Re: gifts for guys
 
Quote:

Originally posted by SteveDallas

Does it explain how to escape a flame war? How about how to avoid being "invited" to a meeting where you're just asked to reiterate what you've already said several times? Can it help you escape a slow and painful death when your only Valentine's Day present to your wife was a $100 gift certificate to Victoria's Secret?

These are, you understand, strictly hypothetical situations.

I think those are planned for the sequel. ;)

lumberjim 02-17-2004 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SteveDallas

Cool, so you're beard's older than I am! :beer:



[river] not true.[/reaches the sea]

xoxoxoBruce 02-17-2004 09:22 PM

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Originally posted by lumberjim




[river] not true.[/reaches the sea]

I get the reference but not the objection. Since I'm not as smart or clever or handsome as you, please explain.

SteveDallas 02-17-2004 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by xoxoxoBruce
Yeah, it's been voting for quite some time but we don't always agree because it's a democrat and I'm an Independent.;)
No doubt it's suspicious of all those clean-shaven Republicans.

novice 02-17-2004 11:23 PM

The length of growth from your face to the point where SteveDallas was born is what I think he means, in a roundabout way. although it is a part of the beard as a whole it falls outside the original criteria

lumberjim 02-18-2004 01:13 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by xoxoxoBruce
I get the reference but not the objection. Since I'm not as smart or clever or handsome as you, please explain.
this is the same argument, but from the other direction. equate water to hairs, river to beard. you say the river itself doesn't reach the sea, therefore my sig line is untrue. It was my position that although the river may change bodies, it will eventually reach the sea ......or local sea level body of water.
Although you have had A beard since before steve was born, it is an entirely different beard made up of different hairs. your beard is more likely to be about 4 to 6 weeks old.

quzah 02-18-2004 01:37 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by lumberjim
Although you have had A beard since before steve was born, it is an entirely different beard made up of different hairs. your beard is more likely to be about 4 to 6 weeks old.
I doubt this highly. You see those old "Santa" type guys they always have in shows where the kid yanks on their two foot long beard, and it's real and everyone has a laugh... Four to six weeks? That's some kind of turbo beard. Unless you're talking about a short beard...

Quzah.

novice 02-18-2004 01:43 AM

Bruce's tagline deliberately implies he last shaved in 1969. Whether or not this is a fact is irrelevant to our debate as it's the only info we have to take sides over.

lumberjim 02-18-2004 01:52 AM

the last picture i saw of bruce showed a close cropped beard......looks like 4-6 weeks worth. regardless, every cell is replaced within a seven year span, even bones. so, the actual age of his beard is immaterial. it's never 34 years old.

he's on the left
http://cellar.org/2003/bd02.jpg

novice 02-18-2004 02:07 AM

*cries foul- disclosure.
On a serious note, are you saying that if I grew my hair for 34 years, and it ended up being, say, four feet long, the cells at the extremities would be entirely different from those originally extruded from my face and, in fact, be no older than seven years.:confused:

Michael Roth 02-18-2004 02:13 AM

http://science.howstuffworks.com/question100.htm


It relates arm hair to head hair, but I'm sure we can all extrapolate :>

lumberjim 02-18-2004 02:16 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by novice
*cries foul- disclosure.
On a serious note, are you saying that if I grew my hair for 34 years, and it ended up being, say, four feet long, the cells at the extremities would be entirely different from those originally extruded from my face and, in fact, be no older than seven years.:confused:

nope. correction....all LIVE cells...his beard aint that long

novice 02-18-2004 02:44 AM

In that case I stand by my earlier post. Based on the (then) available info it was possible for some of bruces beard to have been created before SteveDallas and the rest, up till now, after.
This was only invalidated after you breached the rules of disclosure and entered new evidence.
Obviously I must grudgingly concede the contempory point.

Where were you when I needed you Bruce? :D

xoxoxoBruce 02-18-2004 08:51 AM

Sorry novice, (no vice?) it's the percocets:zzz:
The beard is the same even though the hair is replaced at a steady rate. The creek behind my house is thousands of years old even though the water is changing constantly.

The rivers to the sea thing is different. There are many rivers that empty into inland lakes that do not drain to the sea, ever. Yes they evaporate and precipitation ends up in the sea directly or via another river. Or the lake water percolates through the earth into an aquifer and then gets pumped to the surface to continue to the sea. But that's like saying a hair falls out of my beard, goes through the sewer system to the sludge, gets spread on a corn field, I eat the corn and grow a new hair. Pretty much a stretch.

lumberjim 02-18-2004 10:25 AM

[beat]yeah...i think, in that quote, the "sea" is an interchangeable term.

[/dead horse]

Elionwyr 02-18-2004 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Undertoad
A cordless screwdriver is actually much more practical and useful than it would seem.

Especially with a full set of bits.

Hmm...maybe. But I was really disappointed with the lack of power my cordless screwdriver possessed.

*caresses Makita lovingly*
I'll never go back.

Elspode 02-18-2004 11:53 AM

Anything which *can* be done with a power tool *should* be done with a power tool. It is a moral imperative.

quzah 02-18-2004 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by novice
Bruce's tagline deliberately implies he last shaved in 1969. Whether or not this is a fact is irrelevant to our debate as it's the only info we have to take sides over.
Yeah. That's what I was thinking of. It should be "The last time I was clean shaven was in...", not the last time he shaved. He's getting by on a technicality. Technicly, he likely just "trims" his beard, and doesn't shave. It's all legal speak. ;)

I on the other hand, have only cut my hair once in the past 12 years. That was to trim a foot off of it about 6 years ago or so. My hair is just about knee-length.

Quzah.

mrnoodle 02-18-2004 04:02 PM

When you get older, your hair doesn't grow as fast. I used to be able to grow it from 'politician hair' to my shoulders in like 9 months. Now, it's been over a year since I cut it and it's barely to my shoulders. It will be another 2 years before i have rock star hair again :(

i'm perpetually stuck in ugly hair mode. I may shave my head.

lumberjim 02-18-2004 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by quzah

Yeah. That's what I was thinking of. It should be "The last time I was clean shaven was in...", not the last time he shaved. He's getting by on a technicality. Technicly, he likely just "trims" his beard, and doesn't shave. It's all legal speak. ;)

I on the other hand, have only cut my hair once in the past 12 years. That was to trim a foot off of it about 6 years ago or so. My hair is just about knee-length.

Quzah.


we'll need to see that.

hot_pastrami 02-18-2004 08:20 PM

Re: gifts for guys
 
Quote:

Originally posted by dar512
It's cheap and I don't know a single guy who wouldn't love this thing: "The Worst-Case Scenario Survival Handbook" by Joshua Piven & David Borgenicht.
I have owned a copy of this book for a few years now, some of the information is actually mildly useful. I also have the companion book "The WORST-CASE SCENARIO Survival Handbook: TRAVEL," and a similar book by one of the authors of the Worst-case books, called "The Action Hero's Handbook." I can't even begin to tell you how many times that little baby has come in handy, but I admit that it ruins the heroic entrance to whip it out of a back pocket and start flipping pages. Oh well, I guess it can't have looks AND brains.

lumberjim 02-18-2004 08:24 PM

so which one DO you have?

Uryoces 02-18-2004 09:47 PM

I have a red and black ratcheting Nebo screwdriver with an extension, 1/4" socket adapter, and 8 more bits. Bought it from the local Home Despot. It's not electric, but my batteries don't run down. :)

It's my Mr. Scott special. I loves my screwdriver.

xoxoxoBruce 02-18-2004 10:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by lumberjim
[beat]yeah...i think, in that quote, the "sea" is an interchangeable term.

[/dead horse]

I don't think "sea" and "dead horse" are interchangable to any beat.:)

hot_pastrami 02-19-2004 12:05 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by lumberjim
so which one DO you have?
Well, ok... neither. But I have a positive attitude, and a can-do spirit!!! Yay for me. I swear, I must be the last person left with a positive attitude on this stinking shithole of a planet. Aw, fuck it.

Torrere 02-19-2004 12:22 AM

I bought a copy of it after a friend of mine based a speech on one of their examples.

Steve, the Worst Case Survival Handbook: Dating and Sex might contain those.

Troubleshooter 02-19-2004 09:06 AM

Check out these books:

http://www.sequoiapublishing.com/

A whole publishing company dedicated to manly referrence books.

Elspode 02-19-2004 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Uryoces
I have a red and black ratcheting Nebo screwdriver with an extension, 1/4" socket adapter, and 8 more bits. Bought it from the local Home Despot. It's not electric, but my batteries don't run down. :)

It's my Mr. Scott special. I loves my screwdriver.

Looks to me like that thing has plenty of room inside for a motor and some batteries...

Happy Monkey 02-19-2004 12:38 PM

What would be really cool is an electric screwdriver that ratchets when the power is off or the battery is dead. As it is, I have a ratchet screwdriver with a ton of bits, and a power screwdriver that came with only four, but each works with the other bits. It's a pretty good compromise.

Uryoces 02-19-2004 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Elspode


Looks to me like that thing has plenty of room inside for a motor and some batteries...

Hmm? What? I was pleasuring myself with my screwdriver.

Bzzzzzzzzz...

xoxoxoBruce 02-19-2004 05:17 PM

Hey, wait a minute. Uryoces, don't you have a bunch of grunts to put the screws in? It's good to be the king.:king:


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