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spatt01 02-02-2004 08:09 AM

SUPER JANET
 
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IF YOU DIDN'T SEE THIS....YOU MISSED IT LIVE. BUT DON'T FRET:

Undertoad 02-02-2004 09:05 AM

This is the internet buddy, we don't mess around here.

http://cellar.org/2004/jjt.jpg

ladysycamore 02-02-2004 09:34 AM

WHOA!
 
Wow, if that's a piercing..then OUCH!!! But, IMO, it's still kinda cool. ;)

Heh, and the looks on their faces is like, "Um..uh oh." :eek:

wolf 02-02-2004 09:51 AM

It looks like the sunburst thingy is a "jacket" being held in place by a barbell piercing, which makes it a lot less ouchy than if the sunburst was a nipple clamp.

(For the record I totally don't GET nipple piercings. What if you want to use them for something else later?)

Slartibartfast 02-02-2004 10:07 AM

In work today, all I was hearing about this was that it was intentional. Looking at the picture posted above, their expressions are ones that seem to show embarrasment and puzzlement. If it was intentional, their body language does not show it.


American television on sex: no boobies or naughty bits or making babies. American televison on violence:Sure, the more the better!

wolf 02-02-2004 10:16 AM

They are performers.

Their expressions are what they wish their expressions to be.

(I'm going for intentional.)

SteveDallas 02-02-2004 10:55 AM

MY GOD!!! SHE'S A BORG!!!!

ladysycamore 02-02-2004 10:56 AM

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Originally posted by Slartibartfast
In work today, all I was hearing about this was that it was intentional. Looking at the picture posted above, their expressions are ones that seem to show embarrasment and puzzlement. If it was intentional, their body language does not show it.
THANK YOU!! Plus, it's been noted by someone who was actually at the event, that SECONDS after it all happened, Justin covered her up and led her off of the stage. Plus, in the video shot of it, you can see that when the ripping happened and her breast came out, her left hand did this jerking motion towards the exposure like, "Oh shit!". Basically, I'm going to believe information from someone who was actually there rather than blindly going along with what everyone else is saying (or believing). fOf course, as I said in another post, people are going to believe what they want to believe, even if there is evidence to the contrary.


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American television on sex: no boobies or naughty bits or making babies. American televison on violence:Sure, the more the better!
Preach on!!!! Ain't that the truth! (although I have NO problems whatsoever about the not making babies...I'm all for no procreational sex!!! ;) :D

Actually, I found it funny as all hell for the suckers that paid to see lingerie models play football in the Lingerie Bowl 2004 . I heard on AM radio this morning all these guys calling up saying how pissed they were that there was too much interviewing and not enough tits and ass playing...baahahahaha! Serves them right I say! :haha:

SteveDallas 02-02-2004 11:08 AM

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Originally posted by ladysycamore
I heard on AM radio this morning all these guys calling up saying how pissed they were that there was too much interviewing and not enough tits and ass playing...baahahahaha! Serves them right I say! :haha:
Yeah, anybody should have known that $19.95 was WAY to much to pay... I mean it's lingerie, so you already know there won't even be any nudity.

I mean, not that I considered buying it myself.

jinx 02-02-2004 11:27 AM

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Originally posted by wolf


(For the record I totally don't GET nipple piercings. What if you want to use them for something else later?)

Uhhhh.... like what?


If the tearing off of the tear-away bra was a mistake - what was it they intended to do?

::edited to resemble english::

wolf 02-02-2004 12:13 PM

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Originally posted by jinx


Uhhhh.... like what?

Like their actual intended purpose? The scar tissue that results from the piercing (and sometimes multiple piercings) would appear likely to interfere with the milk channels.

jinx 02-02-2004 12:19 PM

Huh. I guess it could, but I know quite a few pierced successful breast feeders, and none who've encountered problems. Breast reduction surgery is the killer in that dept.

ladysycamore 02-02-2004 12:38 PM

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Originally posted by jinx


Uhhhh.... like what?


If the tearing off of the tear-away bra was a mistake - what was it they intended to do?

::edited to resemble english::

I think the exposure of the breast was the mistake, not the tearing away of the bra cup. You can see the there is a red piece of fabric under the black part of the outfit, and I *believe* that's what was supposed to stay on.

jinx 02-02-2004 01:41 PM

Look at the bra cup in his hand though, you can see that the red is just a trim along the top, and also see the snaps where it attaches/detaches.

Elspode 02-02-2004 04:57 PM

Another suspect point here is this...how many pierced nipple folks do you know who routinely wear an ornament that large or elaborate unless they intend for it to be seen?

This was intentional. Anything to stir up attention, get publicity. CBS was in on it. They aren't stupid. They used to have the rep of being the old, stodgy network, and it has negatively impacted their viability in this modern, "X" age. They are actively working to change it, and you saw some of that yesterday.

ladysycamore 02-02-2004 05:27 PM

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Originally posted by Elspode
Another suspect point here is this...how many pierced nipple folks do you know who routinely wear an ornament that large or elaborate unless they intend for it to be seen?
Please, not every single piercing MUST be seen by everybody. When she was asked years ago about her piercings, she clearly stated that there were a few in places that were private. You don't see women who have their clits pierced going around showing it off. Think about it: does EVERY woman you know with a pierced nipple go around showing it 24/7? I'm guessing the answer is no, because from what I understand, it's illegal to go around topless (at least for women).

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This was intentional. Anything to stir up attention, get publicity. CBS was in on it. They aren't stupid. They used to have the rep of being the old, stodgy network, and it has negatively impacted their viability in this modern, "X" age. They are actively working to change it, and you saw some of that yesterday.
Well, this would be silly of CBS to do, considering they've been a hit with the conservative, religious crowd with their wholesome show lineup ranging from "Touched By An Angel" to now "Joan of Arcadia". Why on earth would they sabotage that?

Elspode 02-02-2004 10:17 PM

Good points, all...but I still stand by my "it was intentional" theory.

elSicomoro 02-02-2004 10:21 PM

From what I've read tonight, apparently, she did stray away from the "game plan," but revealing her bare breast was unintentional.

I can only hope for something similar from Mariah Carey now.

Elspode 02-02-2004 10:36 PM

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Originally posted by ladysycamore


I think the exposure of the breast was the mistake, not the tearing away of the bra cup. You can see the there is a red piece of fabric under the black part of the outfit, and I *believe* that's what was supposed to stay on.

Looking closely at the costume, I see the following:

1. There is a row of snaps on the bustier which remains on her body, arranged around the edge of her breast.
2) The female parts of the snaps are on the cup, which is held in Mr. Timberlake's hand, with the concave (or inside) portion showing outward toward the camera.

The red strip is merely trim on the top of the removed cup. Looking again at the closeup, there is no additional red material showing anywhere, indicating that there was nothing else there to remain...no signs of tearing, nothing. The cup Justin holds was meant to come off (why else use snaps?) and there is and never was anything under it to have remained following the removal. Conclusion? Intentional exposure of highly decorated breast.

elSicomoro 02-02-2004 10:59 PM

I disagree, Ep. It looks like he's holding the cup convexly (notice that his index finger looks raised...if the concave side were towards us, his index finger should be more recessed), the red material looks like it's protruding from behind the cup and the snaps on the removed cup look like the ones on the attached one (that is, it appears that we are looking at the snaps from the very outside, not the female side).

99 44/100% pure 02-03-2004 08:50 AM

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Originally posted by Elspode
Looking closely at the costume, I see the following:
1. There is a row of snaps on the bustier which remains on her body, arranged around the edge of her breast.
2) The female parts of the snaps are on the cup, which is held in Mr. Timberlake's hand, with the concave (or inside) portion showing outward toward the camera.

The red strip is merely trim on the top of the removed cup. Looking again at the closeup, there is no additional red material showing anywhere, indicating that there was nothing else there to remain...no signs of tearing, nothing. The cup Justin holds was meant to come off (why else use snaps?) and there is and never was anything under it to have remained following the removal. Conclusion? Intentional exposure of highly decorated breast.

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Originally posted by sycamore
I disagree, Ep. It looks like he's holding the cup convexly (notice that his index finger looks raised...if the concave side were towards us, his index finger should be more recessed), the red material looks like it's protruding from behind the cup and the snaps on the removed cup look like the ones on the attached one (that is, it appears that we are looking at the snaps from the very outside, not the female side).


I guess it all depends upon what your definition of "is" is.

Elspode 02-03-2004 12:52 PM

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Originally posted by sycamore
I disagree, Ep. It looks like he's holding the cup convexly (notice that his index finger looks raised...if the concave side were towards us, his index finger should be more recessed), the red material looks like it's protruding from behind the cup and the snaps on the removed cup look like the ones on the attached one (that is, it appears that we are looking at the snaps from the very outside, not the female side).
Okay...but that still doesn't explain why there is only a strip of red trim material on the cup, and nowhere else in the vicinity of the exposed breast, if there was indeed to have been some portion which remained beneath the leather cup itself. It just isn't logical to suppose that the cup was trimmed in red by itself if indeed there was to have been another layer of the same material/garment beneath the cup.

Beestie 02-03-2004 12:58 PM

It was intentional.

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Jackson admitted as much in a statement last night, saying, "The decision to have a costume reveal at the end of my halftime performance was made after final rehearsals."
Here's the rest.

Sorry Janet and Justin, you still suck. :rolleyes:

Skunks 02-03-2004 01:13 PM

Sheesh. That article needs more breast puns.

I gotta say, though. Couldn't they have found somebody less ugly, or a breast with a less painful-looking addition? If the point was to anything other than make stuffy executives develop ulcers, it's probably failed.

Elspode 02-03-2004 04:22 PM

"Costume reveal"?! What kind of incredible double-talk, not-quite-an-admission admission is *that*?! The phrase is intentionally contrived to make it sound as if they *might* have meant that they intended to reveal another layer of costume instead of a titty.

Jeesh.

elSicomoro 02-03-2004 06:31 PM

Like what's she saying is not within the realm of possibilities.

Elspode 02-03-2004 09:10 PM

I suppose that *anything* is in the realm of possibilities...it just doesn't seem likely, nor logical. In the end, no one is ever going to know for sure except for Janet and maybe Justin. Oh sure, *someone* will have a big tell-all about it somewhere along the line, but it won't be anyone who can be believed since they'll be doing it for their own 15 minutes of fame and/or fortune.

wolf 02-22-2004 12:36 PM

Apparently, it was all part of a conspiracy to involve the whole viewing audience in a Satanic ritual.

I never would have guessed.

Also, someone has to explain to these bozos that Satanist <> Pagan.

Asshats™.

Beestie 03-20-2004 10:02 PM

Looks like the camera cut away too quickly....

http://www.knakezooi.nl/insertpagina...ges/janet2.jpg

:D

ladysycamore 03-22-2004 09:52 AM

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Originally posted by Beestie
Looks like the camera cut away too quickly....

http://www.knakezooi.nl/insertpagina...ges/janet2.jpg

:D

Ugh, that's just dumb.

The current issue of Ebony
has Janet speaking on it, and what should be the absolute LAST word about this mess.

OnyxCougar 03-24-2004 07:00 AM

But that doesn't indicate if she did it purposely or not. So it can't be the last word. If someone actually bought Ebony, can you post the relevant snippet please?

ladysycamore 03-24-2004 08:41 AM

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Originally posted by OnyxCougar
But that doesn't indicate if she did it purposely or not. So it can't be the last word. If someone actually bought Ebony, can you post the relevant snippet please?
Basically, here are a couple of comments from the interview:

"It was not intentional. It was a costume accident", say Jackson, in an exclusive interview with Ebony.

"It was an accident," she says. "That was basically it."

In another part of the interview:

Ebony: She goes on to say that some television stations didn't run all of her taped apology.

Janet: "Sometimes, they cut out that I said it was an accident," she says. "That's what the media does, that's the way they want it to be told a different way. I probably should have done it live, but there was so much going on at the time that I needed to just get it done. It is what it is."

Of course, there is also this:
Janet Apologizes, FCC Investigates


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