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Undertoad 01-22-2004 04:49 PM

James Lileks' "Yeagh"
 
Yeagh

Dr. Dean, re-mixed and re-hosted for your enjoyment.

Originally from here and just now played on Fox News.

elSicomoro 01-22-2004 05:49 PM

I guess my question is...why was a big deal made of Dean's speech in the first place? Sure, it was a bit goofy...but it was a "rallying the troops" speech as I saw it. WTF?

xoxoxoBruce 01-22-2004 06:51 PM

I'm with you Syc. Letting off steam at worst.

lumberjim 01-22-2004 07:05 PM

cuz he sounds so ridiculous? Like a bad wrestler manager?

This is a guy that's running for president, not governor of minnesota, after all. He's got no chance

has anyone heard Howard Stern's medley? funnnnnny

Happy Monkey 01-22-2004 07:24 PM

Of course, Howard Stern also said the same thing sycamore did.

vsp 01-22-2004 08:15 PM

Oh, you want Yeagh?

Here's some <a href="http://homepage.mac.com/jonathanbarlow/.Public/howarddean.mp3">Yeagh Dance Mix</a>.

And some <a href="http://blog.netwarriors.org/f/deandance2.mp3">more</a> Yeagh.

And, oh, why not some <a href="http://jimtreacher.com/uncanny2.wav">Yeagh, "Deliverance"-style?</a>

(FWIW, I liked the Yeagh. Joe Lieberman couldn't Yeagh if his testicles were on fire.)

vsp 01-23-2004 11:33 AM

MORE YEAGH FOR YOU!

<a href="http://home.comcast.net/~cozdemir226/deanjungle.mp3">Welcome to the Jungle, baby</a>

<a href="http://farmgolf.com/Howard%20Dean's%20Crazy%20Train.mp3">Goin' to the White House on a Crazy Train</a>

And maybe the best: <a href="http://home.comcast.net/~erkan226/acdcdean.mp3">For those about to YEAGH, we salute you</a>

vsp 01-23-2004 11:43 AM

Aw, hell, somebody's collecting hordes of them:

<a href="www.deangoesnuts.com">Dean Goes Nuts.com</a>

richlevy 01-23-2004 07:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sycamore
I guess my question is...why was a big deal made of Dean's speech in the first place? Sure, it was a bit goofy...but it was a "rallying the troops" speech as I saw it. WTF?
Makes more sense than a president declaring a 'crusade' in the Middle East, or responding to threats against troops with 'bring it on'.

A little honest exuberance is refreshing.

elSicomoro 01-23-2004 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by lumberjim
cuz he sounds so ridiculous? Like a bad wrestler manager?

This is a guy that's running for president, not governor of minnesota, after all. He's got no chance

Writing him off already? Jeez...

Like our current president hasn't said/done anything ridiculous...or the one before him.

Griff 01-24-2004 09:20 AM

I finally caught the video, it wasn't that bad. It's not like he said, "bring 'em on!" and sacrificed the lives of a bunch patriotic kids who didn't know their President was insane.

lumberjim 01-24-2004 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by sycamore


Writing him off already? Jeez...

Like our current president hasn't said/done anything ridiculous...or the one before him.

ya know what? I don;t know a thing about him, and i have an intrinsic sense of apathy toward the whole bullshit presidential election farce that we are subjected to. When I say he's got no chance, it is purely commentary on how this loss of cooth in public will most likely be used against him to ridicule him, and undermine his credibility.

I could be wrong. It's happened once before: I thought i was wrong about something, but it turned out that I was right.

Undertoad 01-24-2004 09:48 AM

Context. It's not just the Yeagh but the three weeks of daily gaffes that preceded it, followed by the rejection of the man by an attentive electorate, followed by the Yeagh.

warch 01-30-2004 10:54 AM

Dean has done more than any candidate to raise the important issues. He has dared to speak out and show leadership. He has dared to voice disent. He's an open target of big media and not slickly packaged. He's not smarmy enought I guess.

His "anger", crazy liberalness...?! please. get beyond the friggin sound byte, wouldcha? Its just media bloodsport. But issues are not as entertaining, are they? I look at Bush's gaffes- his unability to piece two unscripted sentences together...how does he get such a pass? strategery.

Now its Dean's "bizzare" wife who "refuses" to share his name and "refuses" to support his campaign...think of it! She has her own life! What a freak! Great article in the Nation:
http://www.thenation.com/doc.mhtml?i=20040216&s=pollitt

Undertoad 01-30-2004 01:13 PM

The media didn't force him to say bin Laden should be considered innocent until proven guilty.

Tom Brokaw didn't tell him he should use a semantic trick to accuse Bush of knowing about 9/11 before the event.

The bizarre claim that we could have healthcare for all if it wasn't for those silly tax cuts? Media didn't point that one out, but I will: bullshit...

The media has merely picked up on the fact that Dean is unappealing to the general public and proves it every day, once a day. Anti-Bushites should be overjoyed that voters consider electability the number-one issue in selecting a candidate... and then pick anyone other than Dean.

warch 01-30-2004 04:01 PM

I'm all for electibility, and I'm all for change.

I'm all for points of law and for justice.
I'm all for a government organization transparent enough that I can have even the tiniest shread of confidence in their motives and what they do or do not "know".
I'm also for a tax strategy that doesnt outrageously favor the ultra rich.
And I'm for innovative approaches to healthcare and the funding of it.
I'm for fiscal responsibility.
Also, I'm for investment in education (very fiscally responsible), a woman's right to choose, and civil unions.

Dean talks about these things. but it appears you're right, I'm not the general public. Its been pointed out in the press that he's got that vein that pops, so he's not presidential enough.

Happy Monkey 01-30-2004 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by warch
I'm also for a tax strategy that doesnt outrageously favor the ultra rich.
You should read "Perfectly Legal" by David Cay Johnston. It's a great investigation of this problem - plus, my dad is quoted twice in it.

Undertoad 01-30-2004 04:31 PM

Well, that's how politics just IS. You can get some of what you want, but never ever all of it. Change is not generally possible when the majority is content. Difficult change requires charismatic leaders to promote it.

And when you get the perfect candidate, making the perfect speeches, with the right level of concern about the issues that you really care about, you'll only be disappointed when they don't deliver anyway; or when what they do deliver is endlessly politicized until it doesn't resemble the original concept.

That's the system we live with until we can figure out a better one... which we haven't, yet.

Griff 01-30-2004 04:37 PM

The Dean candidacy made some sense on the grounds that, first, he was opposed to the war in Iraq; second, he wanted to balance the budget; third, he was a good civil libertarian supporting gay civil unions, First Amendment rights, and other issues; and, fourth, he supported gun rights, which made him a refreshing oddity among Democrats.here

I don't see how the Dems can beat Bush as long as folks are willing to suspend disbelief over the insanity going on right now. To get my vote a candidate has to be fiscally responsible and not a war-mongering nutjob. Those guys are few and far between but Dean is about as good as the DP can muster. I'm not sure having the Democrat faithful guess about who is electable is a valuble strategy...


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