The Test
 

Love
Morality
Sex
Business
Friendship


okay, I can live with that.

me
 

Love
Friendship
Sex
Business
Morality

It's not accurate but then again what is.

Morality
Business
Friendship
Sex
Love

Frankly, I don't think that the "test" is particularly accurate ...

One's personal interpretation and the reasons for them have a lot more going into them than this really allows for ... what makes a story participant rank best and worst is really open to interpretation. In no way would I actually put business second in that list in real life, but in terms of the story, the boatman acted in an appropriately businesslike manner (I've heard a version where the story goes "well, L, since you don't have any money, you can sleep with me every night for one week" says the Boatman, which puts an entirely different spin on things.

Ah well.

Are we going to do the walking down the road one next?

Morality
Friendship
Business
Love
Sex

Business
Morality
Love
Friendship
Sex

(but my rankings would have changed if she'd had $10 but not $20)

Love
Friendship
Business
Sex
Morality

anyway, L is screwed. She gets points for trying.

Love
Sex
Morality
Business
Friendship

M gets some points off for me for not even trying to fix the problem and then being annoyed at the solution.

So we've got a greedy bastard, a homewrecker, a whore, a jealous prat and a tattletale.

What if I think that they all suck?

Morality
Love
Friendship
Sex
Business

These brief tests always paint with very broad strokes of the brush. The results are cute, but worthless. There is no exploring the motivations for why one chooses the responses they do. People also seem to tend towards answering what they're "supposed to" more than what they really think.

The test was useless on its own, but it did prompt a very interesting conversation between case and I over why the person representing Love placed at near-opposite ends of the spectrum in our lists. I felt that a lack of clarification in the test implied that she simply took the first option to come along. She felt, for the same reasons, that she *had* no other option.

I guess my point is that this test isn't very good for telling you what kind of person you are, but it is a good way to start exploring the type of person you are.

My answers are:

Business
Morality
Love
Friendship
Sex

But more importantly, how do I use this to my advantage, getting laid for example?

Gulp!
 

Morality
Friendship
Business
Love
Sex

Actually, that was me before I met Sycamore...really! It was the Virgo in me...:D

Love
Sex
Business
Morality
Friendship

Hmmm... I'm not sure I buy their definition of friendship.

Keep your sex life in the business realm... two words Las Vegas. :)

Business
Sex
Love
Friendship
Morality

that's fucked up. I ranked them as follows:

Boatman.....stayed constant, siezed opportunity
some other guy......also an opportunist
lady.......sacrificed for her love, but still.....
friend....trouble maker
man.......unforgiving nitz.

if asked to rank the words above in order of importance, it would be more like this:

love....it's all that really matters in the end
morality...to thine own self be true
business.....money makes the world go round
sex.....there's always your imagination
friendship.....as long as you have love

Ooo! I really don't like this version of the test! It seems convoluted and difficult to follow, and it even changes the flow from the original test.

The test was originally published in the book "The Pigman" by Paul Zindel. It's not a terribly impressive work on it's own, but his little test has grown far beyond the popularity of the book.

Anyhow, verbatim, here is the test in Zindel's words:
What's even more amusing is that Zindel's answer key looked like this:

1. Husband=Love
2. Wife= Fun
3. Lover=Sex
4. Assassin=Money
5. Boatman=Magic

Obviously you can't have "magic" in a personality test intended for the masses, so people have modified the meaning of the Boatman to make the test seem more realistic.

The most common remappings are "truth" or "honesty". But I've also seen "Law". The "Business" answer really isn't all that common, this is the first time I've seen that one.

I also find it amusing that in the original, the wife=fun, but in this version the wife=love. And while the husband used to be love, he's now morality.

When I was younger I really, really loved this test, so to see this cliff-notes version seems an affront to the original.

Morality
Friendship
Business
Love
Sex

Definitely inaccurate.

Sex
Morality
Love
Business
Friendship

Not right.
The guy with the $50 *IF* he didn't know her plight.
The husband *IF* he didn't know she needed the money.
The wife only because she's better than the other two.
The boatman for doubling the fair fee.
The friend was no friend.

mine:
Friendship
Morality
Business
Love
Sex

bruce, explain that one to me....if your wife/girlfriend had sex with someone other than you, and your best friend found out about it, wouldn't you want to know? granted it's pretty shitty that she would do such a thing but what are the odds that she'd tell you because she went behind your back? granted it wouldn't be the first time someone didn't confess their wrong doings but hey this is all hypathetical anyway, right?

morality
love
business
sex
friendship

i don't agree...i think friendhip and sex are more important than business.

Exactly my thoughts.

But I'm proud to say, that even as is, morality ranked last.

I would have to consider that person a friend, because I'd want to know. I don't play shit like that: the idea that a man is going to come home to ME with something that he could pass on to ME...oh hell no. I knew someone who was in that position. Long story short: young lady I worked with was married, was pregnant with their first child. Husband was in the Marines stationed in NC. Came home on leave, they had sex, he gave her an STD. Was found out later that he was having sex with way too many females. I think the baby turned out ok.

Again, hell no. Homey don't play that. :mad:

Morality
Business
Love
Friendship
Sex

They got married and were in the process of living happily ever after. Now comes this "friend" raking up muck from her past, blowing the marriage and giving them both baggage for the future. That's no friend.:)

And a sexual business transaction as a desparate, last attempt to be reunited with your loved one is different than getting a recreational or emotion laced bit on the side.

Love
Friendship
Business
Morality
Sex

(which offers very little hope, I suppose, for my suddenly-available-dating-status)
*sigh*:eek:

Morality - The man didn't do anything wrong so he is the best of the bunch.

Sex - The other man was just trying to get some and without his help the woman wouldn't have been able to buy a ticket. But he's lower because he mowed another man's lawn.

Business - The boatman was just trying to make a buck but he's slightly lower than the guy who paid the lady because he was price gowging the lady.

Friendship - Some of these are labeled poorly. How is the person who told a friend? She is a squealer/rat/tattletale and friends don't do that. She's lower than the boatman for that.

Love - This is a double misnomer because she's not a lady and people that love you don't sleep with others. The lady is the lowest of the group because she's a cheater.

Unless you find another suddenly-available guy who has the same ranking of importance of the top items.
:blush:

Re: The Test
 

Morality
Love
Friendship
Business
Sex


yikes.

I knew Radar could be counted on to get it mostly wrong. The guy left this girl because she was so desparate to be with him that she slept with another man to do so. That's bad right there.

The boatman was price gouging but do you really expect him to let her cross for free? Even if he'd charged normal price she'd not have had the money.

Yeah, the lady cheated. But it's not as if she had a _good_ choice in the scenario presented. The lowest for that? Hardly.

If the customer knew the situation, he's easily the lowest, for taking advantage of a desperate woman.

There's no right or wrong numb nuts, it's a matter of opinion and mine is as valid as yours or anyone else's.

It seems like this test is more about interpretation than it is about ranking priorities.

It seems to me that Radar's opinion makes perfect sense for him: Crisp righteous ideals regardless of messy reality, real life.

Oh brother, and the whole "lady" baggage is such a load of crap. She wins my top spot because unlike her fella she got off her high horse and took some action. The happy ending is that she's learned much about her own resolve, determination, fortitude and self-reliance. She's well rid of them all.

and she cleared thirty bucks for her troubles. ;)

Although I hadn't considered the point that S was really taking advantage of the situation. I was thinking that S was just a disinterested third party who happened to want sex for money. Sure, S may be pathetic. But maybe S is just confused. But if S knows the whle story, that L needs the money to get to her love, then S's actions would be particularly bad.

either that or I'm just trying to figure out how to get closer to Ellie's score so I can flirt with her again

"S" see's a girl by the river in need of money and he's in need of a hummer. He doesn't necessarily know about the man on the other side of the river. That wasn't said, so the assumption is he doesn't know anything other than a woman is willing to bang him for a 50.

As for me, if at any point another penis enters the vagina of the woman I love (other than rape) she's not worth having anymore. Heck even if she isn't penetrated and she's with another woman it's cheating.

What if they let you watch? Take pictures perhaps?

For me love isnt about the worth of "having", its about compassion, disillusion, trust, respect, and imperfection. You know, the real shit. A deep love can withstand and deepen through the guaranteed horrible circumstances, pain and petty jealousy, too.

Pssst, UT. Start a thread on chinchilla juggling. ;)
Radar, LOVE is not a cheater and SEX didn't mow anothers lawn because she was still single.

ok, wait, i'm confused. did she get an STD or not?!?:eek:

heh! there goes a few of my "morality" points

Dude.
Sex better be WAY high on the list.
;)

YEAH, baby!
(heh)

:doit:   :joylove:   :D

:D

Love - she abandoned everything for love, which I don't support because I believe that it often leads to situations like M dumping her.

Sex - He was just an opportunist. He helped her to do what she wanted. I wouldn't support him, but I won't condemn him.

Friendship - I'm not sure if he should have told M.

Morality - I could see myself in his situation, and I don't like his situation. He didn't try to help the situation. Maybe he had ten or twenty dollars, but he wouldn't give anything up for love. This I also do not support. While he should have reacted poorly to S, he should have overcome it. I think that this was a thin veneer of love.

Business - This should have ranked higher -- but that was a charity situation. Given that she had no money, doubling the price was cruel and worthless. He should have been trying to figure out some way to both get her across and benefit himself.

I agree with your re-ranking, though I'd place friendship after morality.
I took the test and it was pretty off...


Here are your rankings.

Love
Sex
Business
Friendship
Morality


Love is in the right place, but in reality, morality and friendship probably have pretty equal ranking with me. Sex, to me, is the closest you can get to a person, and therefore, should be reserved for the person you love (however, this woman wasn't cheating as such....she was doing what would get her to the man she loved...it was more business than emotion) so, in the context of love, I'd probably place sex third or fourth. Business, to me, is a way to make money; money being a means to an end.

However, it doesn't matter how much money you have if you don't have love and friendship, and you can't keep either one of those if you don't have morality. Sex is lagniappe to love and friendship (because, ideally, your love should also be your best friend).



Sidhe

I agree with that. People aren't possessions, much as we may think of them that way subconsciously (and I think we all do that...."MY man," "MY woman," "MY child"). It seems to me that people are too often willing to just walk away when they find that "THEIR" person isn't the paragon that they were painted as in the first flush of love....the truth is, people have aggravating habits...people in love DO disagree; they DO argue and fight over things that won't be important in five years but seem important at the moment. Trust, respect, compassion...you said it all right there. If you have those three things, I think you can get through anything, if you're willing to work at it and not just walk away when things get tough. Because they do get tough sometimes, no matter how great a couple is together.

((I guess that's kind of why I admire my friend who's going through this trouble with her husband (the one I posted about on "Need advice for a friend..." She loves her husband, and she really wants things to be the way they were before, and she's willing to work her ass off to see it happen, rather than just take the easy road and walk away from the problem. She understands that marriage is, barring physical abuse and extreme mental or emotional abuse (I specify "extreme" because what may be mental/emotional abuse for one may be something another person would blow off), for better or for worse, and that things aren't always easy. But she's counting on love and determination to pull them through. My fingers are crossed for her.))

Sidhe