Isn't Anyone Going to Say Anything About Matrix Revolutions?
 

It was supposed to be a big deal...the end of the trilogy.

It was cool in a way, dissatisfying in another way. I dunno...I think I expected too much. The first Matrix rocked altogether. The second at least left you thinking, wondering and anticipating.

This one kind of leaves me flat. Unfulfilled. Great fucking battle scenes, though.

Other opinions?

Haven't seen it yet ... no clue when I'm going to make it.

I've been willfully not seeing it. Soon, though, I will see it at the IMAX. I figure that since the battle scenes seem to be all that people are raving about, and feeling dissatified with the rest, I may as well get the best damned experience of the battle scenes that I can.

Didn't like the first one. Didn't see the second one. Won't be seeing the third one.

-- jeff
-- curmudgeon

I haven't heard anything about it which would make me spend what precious little time I have watching it in the theatre. I was disappointed with the 2nd one and people are saying the third is more of what made the 2nd suck. I bought the second on dvd, however, and it is likely I will buy the third, if only to say I have the complete trilogy.

I watche dthe first one on video and was mildly entertained. I had zero interest in seeing the second one, and about the same for #3.

Maybe it has something to do wtih my yawning disinterest in first-person shooting/fighting video games.

Re: Isn't Anyone Going to Say Anything About Matrix Revolutions?
 

Revolutions is playing at the local theater and since the admission is only $5, I thought I'd see it.

The first one was great, the second less so.....the third, from what has been posted/written should be only ok.

Maybe I'll go see it drunk. Would that make the movie better...or worse?

oh, crap. I was looking forward to seeing that. i was kind of dissapointed with the 2nd because the novelty of the original had worn off, and they really did not introduce anything new. apart from the architect and the knowledge that the oracle was a program. i had hoped that they would take a different angle and open some other questions. if the third is just more of the same, i think, like perth, i'll just wait and buy the 3rd dvd just so i have the complete trilogy.

reminds me of these new lame ass star wars films. you SO want them to be great, epic films like the 1st 3, but then you get that doofus playing annakin in attack of the clones, and it's downhill from there.

now, it's been done, and hope is lost for it being a good sequel....it's kind of like a lottery ticket: it's a winner, and you make plans on how to spend the money, until 7pm when they draw the wrong number, and that ticket becomes a piece of trash.

Re: Re: Isn't Anyone Going to Say Anything About Matrix Revolutions?
 

Better.

I was disappointed, but I half-expected to be. In watching, it seemed like the result of commitee thinking... bland but with cool, expensive effects. If it weren't for the fact that I'd have to give away critical plot points, I'd point ou my specific beefs with this movie. Oh well.

The most entertaining part for me was when my wife, friends and I were walking out of the theater. We were walking past the LONG line of people waiting to get into the next showing, and they were watching us leave. I turned to my wife and said, loudly enough to be overheard by many, "I can't believe that Agent Smith is Neo's father!"

Well, I thought it was funny.

Excellent. I thought it was funny too.

My thoughts (** SPOILERS **)
 

I think it was a collection of cool scenes that should have been in different movies. The Zion battle should be shipped off to Lucas to be used in the next Star Wars movie. The final Smith-Neo battle should have been saved for the next Superman movie. Trinity's final scene should have been split up into about six parts and sent off to romantic tear-jerker flicks. The annoying ammo-reloading kid should have been in a civil war movie. The rest should have been a low-budget pretentious arthouse film.

That said, I enjoyed it overall, but have no desire to see it again.

If you haven't seen it, but want to see it, go find a matinee. I had to see for completeness's sake. Same for the Star Wars Prilogy.

I thuroughly enjoyed it even though I despised Jada's character. I guess it was voted on that there wasn't enough over-acting in the first 2 parts.

I wish Morhpeus got more screen time. But the Matrix movies are all about Neo. 1st movie = Birth 2nd = Love 3rd = Death. It didn't give ALL the answers but I was finally able to bring all the elements together in my mind. Like what the Oracles purpose was and what she wanted to accomplish.

I guess it was better than the second one, but it'd be hard for it not to be

Horrible.

The ending was a huge letdown.

The really sad part is that before this release there was a TON of fan fiction endings which were infinatly better.

I mean couldn't the brothers sit down read a few of these things and say "Yeah you know...our plot sucks....no it REALLY sucks. Lets take this thing and use that...it's far better than anything we manged to milk out."

Oh, thanks. Now I don't need to see it. :)

Sorry Perth. :(

I didn't mean to include spoilers intentionally.

Oh, its okay. I already knew, because fucking everyone I know feels like they need to tell me all about the movies they see; I don't get to the movies that often. But I saw an easy target. :)

The ending was a bit of a let down but I would't say it was completely horrible. Revolutions seemed to focus a lot more on actual plot progression as compared to Reloaded, which was simply a lot of kung-fu. I thought it was fairly well written and the ending seemed inevitable to me. Neo sacrificed himself for the greater good (sort of the whole Matrix-Jesus theory). The destruction of the Matrix entirely would have killed a lot of people and freed the rest into a dark, post-apocalyptic waste land (the real world). At the meeting of The Oracle and The Architect it is decided that those who want to free themselves will be allowed to do so in peace. In essance, Neo saved those future self-aware along with their home city Zion. How long will that last? I don't think the movie gave any indication.

I thought the destruction of Agent Smith was pretty good. Smith gained the Oracle's powers and like any non-free thinking program, didn't comprehend his prediction of defeat.

Overall, I would say the movie wasn't bad at all. Certainly not the greatest sci-fi make-you-think movie I've seen but it has its merits.

Sorry If I spoiled any of it for those who have not seen it yet.

Great points Razorfish.

One thing to note is that the plot line will be continued in the Matrix MMORPG.

ANOTHER MMORPG!! I like them but there seems to be such a huge influx of these things. I remeber the good ol days of Ultima Online and Everquest but now they have a Star Wars one (which has some good points), a Final Fantasy one and countless others that don't really deserve hours and hours of play.

Anyway, getting to the point, there are too many MMORPGs based out of things that lack the proper context neccessary for a good Massive Multiplayer Role Playing Game. I read about some of the proposed features for the game but I still can't picture The Matrix as an MMORPG.

This is not meant to hijack the thread, just pass over it if neccessary. But I'm just curious about other peoples thoughts on The Matrix:MMORPG style.

You get to play as The One! But there can only be one The One, so you have to fight to be the one The One. :D

Ok, I actually liked The Third, I mean Revolutions. Characters were actually developed in this film -- they acted like people with feelings and motivations. In #1, everyone was in shock -- Neo, from having just been sprung from the Matrix, and everyone else from having discovered The One. #2 was just weird, but in #3 we finally met some real people.

I was disappointed in the end, initially. After all the theories I heard and came up with myself, there were many ways the story could have gone. But #3 took none of those paths, and didn't really wrap anything up.

In retrospect, it makes perfect sense. #3 ended in about the only way possible, without turning into a standard patronizing Hollywood Happy Ending.

**WARNING: SPOILERS**

One part that bugged me was the gloss-over of the fact that "Neo has a connection to the Source!" Then they just quickly move on, like someone who trips, then looks around as they get up and walk away briskly to see if anybody saw what happened. The brothers just hastily applied one full can of fix-a-plot:

Andy W.: "...then, Neo says 'I can feel them,' raises his hand, and the sentinels blow up!"

Larry W.: "Awesome! How the hell can he do that though? We'll have to explain it in the third movie."

Andy W.: "No time to talk, I have ten beautiful Playmates waiting for me in my bed, which is a large pile of loose cash."

Larry W.: "You beautiful pagan god."

So, he has a connection to "The Source." How's that again? Has he got a wireless antenna sticking out of his ass that nobody noticed? Trinity just thought it was a special "The One" accessory? The machines just implanted a Wifi card in every human "battery," just for the hell of it?

And the subway station scenes were annoying. I know what they were trying to accomplish with them, but they didn't do anything for the plot, and should not have been there, if you ask me.

And the death scene was too long, and utterly failed to make me give a damn.

Ok, I'm done.

I see, you're One of those. Alotta people complain about the death scene, but I found it was just long enough. I had already accepted the pacing of the movie (I tend to do that) and that scene was fine.

But you got me on the rest of it -- The battery thing makes no sense (humans are the least efficient way to convert food matter (whatever it's made of) to energy. The Bluetooth thing made no sense either.

The whole series rolled right off the end of the science fiction tracks in to the realm of fantasy, where magic exists even in the real world.

So my brain started to try to flee my skull and run away from trying to avoid having to think about how Neo can blow up machines. But after reading some comments from others around the web here's how I see it in condensed form.

Neo is special because he has control over the Matrix -> The machines are powered by the energy of the matrix (becoming part of the matrix in a sense) -> Neo's power extends to them because of that connection (Source, Architect, etc.)

I also think it was purposefully left vague so the bro's can keep moving the plot along in other mediums (games, tv series, board games, etc.)

How about THIS for a "Matrix Revolution"? The fact that the new defense for murderers is insanity, based on the BS that they think they're in the matrix...remember the two snipers who were shooting people a while back? The younger of the two claims that he was killing people because he believed he was in the matrix....yeah, RIIIIIIGHT. Problem is, he's got social workers (you know, those psychiatrist wannabes who think they know more than they do, and cause more trouble than they're worth?) who have jumped on his bandwagon... *sigh*

anyone interested in reading about this, the link is:

http://www.sunspot.net/news/local/ba...,1909905.story

Sidhe

I'm going to assume everyone has seen this movie by now and give a few things away. Close this thread if you haven't seen the movie.





I was very disappointed that they changed the woman playing the Oracle. I also was disappointed they didn't bring the twins back from part 2. They spent way too much time on CGI and not enough on story or acting. While it was sad that Neo and Trinity died, I think it was inevitable.

But I was incredibly dissatisfied with the ending because a "truce" between the machines and people seems utterly unlikely and fleeting at best. Both require domination of the other in order to survive.

There were a few gaping holes in the plot and that bothered me. The trilogy started off so well, and just petered out in the end. It's really a shame. I can't tell you how many movies I've seen like that. They have a great premise, excellent casting, and they start off great, but it seems like they run out of gas halfway and end the movie just to end it.

After seeing the second movie, and hearing what the Architect said, I thought the third movie would have people realize that they were in a matrix inside a matrix inside a matrix and they'd have to wake up again as they did in the first movie. This would have been an awesome plot twist.

On the 5 star scale I'd rate the movies like this.

The Matrix - 4.5 Stars
Matrix Reloaded - 3.5 Stars
Matrix Revolution - 2.5 Stars

The original Oracle actress died, so it's probably more appropriate to be disappointed that they had to change the actress.

I didn't know she died. I guess that explains at least the cast change for her character but not the rest of the problems.


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Big Question of the moment ... Would this really be worth it?

I like DVDs. I like DVD extras. But there are DVDs that I have where I haven't yet bothered to watch through the extras.

Is six disks of damn extras worth it (7 if you count The Animatrix)? Not to mention new digital transfers of the films, and new commentary on each of the three main features?

Yes, of course I already have DVDs of all three movies.

The Animatrix is actually better than the last two movies, FWIW. If you were really into the series, it would be worth it. I have the first two, but I'm not real sure I'll ever get the third. And I don't own the Animatrix on DVD, I've just seen it.

Mashed Potatoes and Gravy that movie is a thriller movie, but please less talking.