Bernie Bails
 

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/202...-race-n1155156

Well, that's that. Once more PA voters don't matter.

Of course we'll matter in the general when we have to choose between two candidates crammed down our throats by the Super Tuesday idiots.

/grouchy

I'm gonna write in Griff. :folks:

There's still plenty of time for Bernie, Trump, Biden, Pence, and even Pelosi (third in line after Pence) to catch the coronavirus. Just ask Boris. Nothing in the world is set in stone right now, and November is a long way off.

Interesting twist: he isn't running for President, but he will remain on the ballot in the remaining primaries, racking up delegates so he can wield maximum influence at the convention.

Yep. Looks like he'd like to push the DNC around a little bit.

A fair goal, considered that voters agree with his policies, just not him as a candidate.

You forgot some between that and voters.

most

That's why he's the presumed nominee...oh, wait...

his policies, just not him as a candidate
 

Smokin' Joe is the presumed nominee.

Is Smokin' Joe socialist?

Has Smokin' Joe adhered, or promised to adhere, to Bernie's policies?

No, reality is some folks liked Bernie, some folks liked his policies, but not enough to win him the chance to go up against my employee.


The other possibility is: most did or do want Bernie/his policies but the powers that be in the Party said no.


Pick your poison: Bernie/Socialism is a loser, or, the party of the people thwarted the will of the people.

It's not that complicated.

When you look at a list of his policy positions, polling indicates that a majority of Americans--Democrat AND Republicans!!--support his positions. It has been this way since 2016 and it's increased over time.

1) he's not the nominee-- true
2) a majority of Americans support his actual positions-- also true

That's all I'm saying, and it's not an opinion.

When you look at a list of his policy positions, polling indicates that a majority of Americans--Democrat AND Republicans!!--support his positions. It has been this way since 2016 and it's increased over time.

Which polls? And, if true, why isn't Bernie the nominee? If the majority agree with him, he'd be a stone-cold winner, yeah?


it's not an opinion.

Yeah, I think it is.


It's not that complicated.

If you're right, then it must be hellishly complicated otherwise Bernie would be the guy, not Joe.


Again: Bernie supporters are a losin' minority, or, the powers in party of the people circumvented the will of the people.

it's the second one. new to politics?

since when does what people actually want matter to who gets elected? lol

There's evidence that the deck was stacked against Bernie the last time around. The powers that be did block him.

This time, I haven't seen any evidence of that. And the "powers that be" are the voters.

24 hours before Super Tuesday, Biden was a career primary loser who had been losing at Presidential campaigns since 1988. Then, in a perfectly coordinated, last-ditch effort, everybody dropped out and endorsed Biden*, impossibly reviving his dead campaign. That wasn't "voters"

Biden was going to be the candidate this time, come hell or high water.

*timing it just right in the news cycle!

One of Pete Buttigieg's staff members tweeted, then hastily deleted, the allegation that first the DNC asked Pete to drop out and endorse Biden, and when he said no, the DNC yanked all his funding to force him to.

it's the second one.
 

Shoulda said that from the start: woulda saved time.

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the "powers that be" are the voters

Sometimes, more on the local, regional, and state levels than the national one.

#

Biden was going to be the candidate this time, come hell or high water.

Which is nonsensical if, as you say, the majority favored or favor socialism. Why would the party of the people cast away their chance to oust my employee? Sure as shit: Smokin' Joe ain't gonna do that.

Bein' fair: while I don't think Bernie or socialism were or are favored, Bernie represented, still represents, a threat to the party's old guard, the folks who'll play footsie with commies, er, socialists but themselves aren't socialists and who don't want socialists to get real power.

Everybody (at least the intelligent ones) love the many problems that Bernie wants to solve. It all quickly falls apart as soon as he says how he will do it. His objectives were admirable. His solutions looked so much like The Don's.

Once it was clear that many voters were finally seeing through to the details, then much of Bernie's support vaporized.

I so remember those Sander's supporters - so ill informed as to repeatedly insist that the Federal Reserve was a private corporation. They even failed to learn from (and denied the solution to
) a near great Depression created by George Jr in 2007. Our asses were saved by the Fed and other properly implemented solutions such as Tarp.

Meanwhile, what inspired a Tea Party? More 'just as ill informed' who hated Tarp using similar over hyped and communist inspired hate. Similar communist regurgitation that Henry Quirk uses.

Notice what was repeatedly stated. All was best ignored until after Iowa. That is when a vacuum behind Bernie's proposals became obvious.

So why are Bernies Balls relevant.

Oh. Need to wash that Coronavirus off my glasses.

I need some Lye soap.

Anything congress addresses is going to end up worse because their place at the trough depends on pleasing their owners, not us.

Thankfully we have the Inspector General to monitor...

Similar communist regurgitation that Henry Quirk uses.
 

Jeez, guy, after all this time, it's okay to just call me Henry. You don't have to be so friggin' formal.

henry quirk. Lower case. Not so formal.

At a black tie dinner, we would say Reverend Henry Quirk. Or Senator Henry Quirk. Or Sir Henry Quirk. Or Ayatollah Henry Quirk. Or Grand Puba Henry Quirk.

Apparently we are not that formal.

Apparently there's a good foot, foot & a half, between my observation and the top of your head.

Being over 12 feet below means you cannot have observation. Unless your title in that black tie dinner was Mister Superman. Apparently not.

So you are only observing what you want to see.

"a good foot, foot & a half" vs "12 feet"
 

:question:

Look, henry: this is a guy who will tell you the TEA Party was Communist.

He gives bloviation lessons to socialist newsmen.

Look, henry: this is a guy who will tell you the TEA Party was Communist.

That's my fault, I think. Some time back I called him a commie and he latched on to it like a tick on a dog. Nowadays, if it doesn't fit into his idea of [i]moderate/i] then it's communist.


He gives bloviation lessons to socialist newsmen.

Livin' in a state of perpetual hysteria makes a man gibberish-prone.

He's never testified to actually being *for* anything. I'd like him to show me I'm wrong there, but he is insusceptible to suggestion.

Or a state of perpetual offense-taking, and being hard done by at least in the abstract.

Apart from psychology (no thing is worthy, all is hated) all this guy's problems are First World problems. Yeah, he's still on Ignore. With sufficient Ignore, he'll only be able to talk into his own navel.