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xoxoxoBruce 12-05-2019 11:45 PM

The Big Bang
 
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This is a pretty good explanation of the Theory of Inflation (Big Bang), for us non-scientists.

Flint 12-06-2019 11:32 AM

Look around the room you're in, and imagine how all the stable, inert objects are the cold remnants of that super-hot, super-dense soup of particles--way too chaotic for atoms to even form until about four-hundred-thousand years later (an amount of time that it's difficult for us to even imagine--twice as long as humans have existed.)

Gravdigr 12-06-2019 01:41 PM

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The Big Bang
I know that chick.

nowhereman 12-09-2019 06:29 AM

Eccentrica Gallumbits ?

Gravdigr 12-09-2019 12:59 PM

Never heard of him.

Undertoad 12-09-2019 01:18 PM

Her

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Originally Posted by HHGTG
Eccentrica Gallumbits is the far-famed triple-breasted whore of Eroticon Six. Some people say her erogenous zones start some four miles from her actual body. Ford Prefect disagrees, saying five. It is possible that the Big Bang was actually one of her orgasms.


lumberjim 12-09-2019 02:36 PM

So that's proof of faster than light movement. Now we know it's possible.... just a matter of time until we're teleporting around willy nilly

Flint 12-09-2019 04:08 PM

My understanding is that space itself was expanding at that rate, not that something was traveling "through space"

lumberjim 12-09-2019 04:56 PM

that's why I said movement, not travel. it had to move if it covered a distance.... but if there was nothing to travel through, it couldnt have traveled. You might have to get outside the universe to move that quickly.

xoxoxoBruce 12-09-2019 10:56 PM

Does blowing up a balloon qualify as movement?

lumberjim 12-10-2019 10:12 AM

It moves right? But what is it moving in, if that's the analogy. If space expanded, what was displaced?

Flint 12-10-2019 11:52 AM

When I was a kid, my dad would ask us, "If the universe isn't infinite, what's at the end of it? If it's a big brick wall, what's on the other side?" Really good question, tbh. What did the early universe Inflate into? It's hard for us to imagine nothing.

xoxoxoBruce 12-10-2019 11:55 AM

Some of it moves not the part in/on your mouth so probably a bad analogy.
Maybe mento/coke in a balloon, everything's moving and that displaces air.
But the universe is displacing void, nothing.
We have trouble getting our head around infinite anything, no less nothing.
Well it has to end somewhere. Nope, forever and ever, amen. :mg:

lumberjim 12-10-2019 12:38 PM

We don't have the ability to observe something so large and so small at the same time. Space IS void. Or at least we thought so.

Clodfobble 12-10-2019 05:26 PM

The empty space outside the universe is the same place my consciousness was before I was born.

sexobon 12-10-2019 05:48 PM

Oh hey, there's some good jokes in that statement ...

… Wait a moment, I think I've got one …

… Yes, here it is:

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Originally Posted by Clodfobble (Post 1042877)
The empty space outside the universe is the same place my consciousness was before I was born.

No dear, the only empty space to contain your consciousness is right where it's always been...between your ears.

*takes a bow*

lumberjim 12-10-2019 06:50 PM

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The empty space outside the universe is the same place my consciousness was before I was born.


truth.


a thought, or collection of thoughts... a consciousness, requires no space, and yet they exist. If you think a lot of thoughts all at once, your head doesn't swell up or feel tight. if you empty your mind, it doesn't create vacuum.



The universe exists within the framework of a concept. We have no way of determining what that is comprised of, just the theoretical knowledge that it must exist in order to move out of the way of the universe as it expands. And will fall back in behind it when it eventually retracts.

Beestie 12-10-2019 07:03 PM

I thought inflation was a theory just to explain how the universe is bigger that than light can travel over the age of the universe.

The idea that space itself can expand/that two things that aren't moving are actually getting farther apart is tricky because there is energy in "empty space" so inflation is basically suggesting that energy *can* be created which we all know isn't true. So there are some loose ends but it does explain some stuff.

sexobon 12-10-2019 07:18 PM

Well, I heard the edge of the universe is an enveloping wormhole that funnels the universe back into the center of itself. That's why the universe is perpetually expanding and accelerating and will never retract. When all of the universe has been funneled back to its center, the wormhole will release it and there'll be another big bang.

Where do you people get those fairy tales about there being space outside the universe and the universe retracting?

lumberjim 12-10-2019 07:20 PM

there is energy in empty space, but that's not space. The concept is that the whole of the universe was contained in the singularity before the bang, and it's just dissipating. getting farther apart and less dense as it does. no energy being created or destroyed, just diluted. the existence and retraction of the emptiness beyond the border of that expansion is what bends my brain.

lumberjim 12-10-2019 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by sexobon (Post 1042885)
Well, I heard the edge of the universe is an enveloping wormhole that funnels the universe back into the center of itself. That's why the universe is perpetually expanding and accelerating and will never retract. When all of the universe has been funneled back to its center, the wormhole will release it and there'll be another big bang.

Where do you people get those fairy tales about there being space outside the universe and the universe retracting?


look man, we're all high and talking about deep stuff here. stop harshing my mellow.

Gravdigr 12-10-2019 11:47 PM

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Ran across this a few years ago:

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Rhianne 12-11-2019 04:34 AM

There is, in fact, a hole in the universe.

It's all explained simply here:


Gravdigr 12-11-2019 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Rhianne (Post 1042902)
There is, in fact, a hole in the universe.

That's gonna make the song a lot longer.:lol2:


Flint 12-11-2019 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by sexobon (Post 1042885)
Well, I heard the edge of the universe is an enveloping wormhole that funnels the universe back into the center of itself.

I just thought of this when I read this post. Similar but different.

I recently read that the space is curved, e.g. parallel lines will eventually meet. And that e v e n t u a l l y if you followed the curve it would wrap back around. It turns out that we might not have to define an outer limit of space, it may be entirely self-contained and infinitely circular.


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