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Griff 10-30-2019 06:14 AM

Who invented Rock and Roll?
 
I know, I know evolutionary process...

But if you had to point at one band or performer who would it be?

zippyt 10-30-2019 06:22 AM

rocket 88 Ike( that low life tina beaten Scum Byotch ) Turner

Griff 10-30-2019 06:26 AM



1948

Griff 10-30-2019 06:28 AM

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Originally Posted by zippyt (Post 1040563)
rocket 88 Ike( that low life tina beaten Scum Byotch ) Turner

That tune is clearly rock and roll. For an asshole Ike rocked.

lumberjim 10-30-2019 10:12 AM

The big 3 were Elvis, Chuck and Little Richard, i guess.


Chuck brought the guitar forward, though, and to me... THAT's rock-n-roll.



So... it was actually Marty McFly

Dude111 10-30-2019 10:29 AM

I would say Fats Domino.. I had an album from him from the 50s but it was not the original MONO record,it was "RECORDED IN STEREOPHONIC SOUND" and it sounded horrible.. I got rid of it........

If a record is mono,LEAVE IT MONO!!!!!!!!!

If I can find it again IN MONO like it was recorded,I may get it again.... Most all Fats albums are highly priced!! ($30 or more)

The One I had was called "This is fats domino" with a red cover......

discogs.com/release/2755047

Undertoad 10-30-2019 12:05 PM

The fact that this is not obvious is the really interesting part.

fargon 10-30-2019 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by lumberjim (Post 1040570)
The big 3 were Elvis, Chuck and Little Richard, i guess.


Chuck brought the guitar forward, though, and to me... THAT's rock-n-roll.



So... it was actually Marty McFly

Like LJ said it was Marty McFly that invented Rock n Roll.

Flint 10-30-2019 12:41 PM

This almost always comes down to the guitar, or the drums.

I'm not a guitar player, so I don't know what the "qualifiers" are, in sound or technique. What are they?

For drums, I would say it's 1) straight--not swung--8th notes, and 2) heavily accented snare on the 2 and 4.

...

I think it would be BOTH of these. If you're playing "rock guitar" over a shuffle, that's blues. If you're playing a backbeat to a big band, that's jazz.

Dude111 10-30-2019 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Undertoad
The fact that this is not obvious is the really interesting part.

Well on mine it was buddy,it said "RECORDED IN STEREOPHONIC SOUND" on the cover.....


The original release of that is mono......

Griff 10-30-2019 03:59 PM



Give this a few minutes.

fargon 10-30-2019 05:20 PM

i wan't to change my vote.

Griff 10-30-2019 05:48 PM

Pretty sure there are no wrong answers.

fargon 10-30-2019 08:26 PM

You're prolly rite.

Clodfobble 10-30-2019 10:14 PM

I don't have a vote, I'd just like to remind everyone of the fun fact that "rock'n'roll" was originally slang for fucking. It would be like if an entire genre of music were called "horizontal mambo."

"Oh man, I saw an awesome horizontal mambo show this weekend."

Gravdigr 10-30-2019 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by zippyt (Post 1040563)
rocket 88 Ike( that low life tina beaten Scum Byotch ) Turner

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Originally Posted by Clodfobble (Post 1040597)
I don't have a vote, I'd just like to remind everyone of the fun fact that "rock'n'roll" was originally slang for fucking. It would be like if an entire genre of music were called "horizontal mambo."

"Oh man, I saw an awesome horizontal mambo show this weekend."

Both of them are correct, y'know. On all counts.

lumberjim 10-30-2019 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Griff (Post 1040585)




Give this a few minutes.

Amanda and I watched the whole thing. Never heard of her before.. Thanks for this. Amanda had seen the train station clip, but no context. Amazing that I didn't know her name. January 11th is her day. And she's buried in Philly. What?

Griff 10-31-2019 06:16 AM

She's probably Rock and Rolls mother. There's a story that Richard Penniman was outside one of her shows singing back in his gospel days. She brought him in exposing him to her high energy show and eventually we get Little Richard.

It makes me wonder about all the players around the country who never made a disc but for sure made music.

sexobon 10-31-2019 05:34 PM

I dunno. Little Richard was born in December 1932 and was only 15 years old on March 31, 1948 when, rumor has it, a baby was born that came out of the birth canal crying Wop bop a loo bop a lop bom bom!

Al Gore.

xoxoxoBruce 10-31-2019 08:14 PM

Alan freed.

I saw a shown last week ago called the Million Dollar Quartet, Carl Perkins, Johnny Cash, Elvis Presley, and Jerry Lee Lewis. The set was Sun Studio with Sam Phillips MC-ing and he said he invented Rock and Roll. Since he recorded Rocket 88 at Sun I guess it’s not that outlandish a claim.

zippyt 10-31-2019 08:38 PM

See Bruce agrees !!!

xoxoxoBruce 10-31-2019 08:43 PM

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It makes me wonder about all the players around the country who never made a disc but for sure made music.

The lights are on in the garage...

lumberjim 10-31-2019 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 1040619)
Alan freed.



I saw a shown last week ago called the Million Dollar Quartet, Carl Perkins, Johnny Cash, Elvis Presley, and Jerry Lee Lewis. The set was Sun Studio with Sam Phillips MC-ing and he said he invented Rock and Roll. Since he recorded Rocket 88 at Sun I guess it’s not that outlandish a claim.

We saw that on the cruise we went on. And watched the show, Sun Records on CMT?

Good show. Sam definititely had a hand in it.

xoxoxoBruce 10-31-2019 08:56 PM

I saw it at the Welk Theater in Branson MO, they looked pretty close at a distance but the sound was right on the money.

Luce 11-11-2019 10:54 AM

Big Bill Broonzy and Memphis Lil.

Griff 11-11-2019 04:19 PM

Nice!


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