Would the Internet Lie to You
 

Would the Internet Lie to You, it's oldest and dearest friend... if it didn't involve sex or money?

We see these pictures with attached "Facts"/description, all the time.
Here is one example.

http://cellar.org/2015/amazonbullshit.jpg

This guy objected. I've been following his site for years, and think he's a straight shooter.

I just stopped in to say that this thread title reminded me that episode 3 of Would I Lie To You series 9 is on the BBC site now. Hooray!






Oh, okay, fine. Relevant to the thread topic: I read a whole thing about how Amazon's filing system is completely random, just like a computer's RAM. Stick something in the first open slot, record that slot in the computer system, now we know where it is. Shampoo next to books next to cat collars next to dildoes next to different books, we don't care.

That would be inefficient. Most distribution centers have the most commonly picked items in the place where it takes the least time and effort to pick. For example the most popular item in the place will be first row, on the aisle, waist high.

Supermarkets are currently facing problems of efficiency/ best use of floor space.
Over here, internet shoppers pick your order from the shop floor, and the items primarily selected via the internet do not conform to the store layouts which have been honed for years by field marketing re yield, impulse buy, connected sales etc.

There was an Amazon "expose" over here which suggested it is not a good place to work, but AC was never mentioned as an issue. I think the only safety issue raised was that of the lighting, which is motion sensitive, meaning you could lose serious picking time as blown bulbs are only picked up when someone tries to use/ pass through said section.

Don't even start on the whole taxes issue either...

According them, it has improved efficiency. Because it's not just about picking the items, it's about stocking them in the first place. If you're low on shampoo, you have a ton of wasted shelf space in the "shampoo" section, multiply that by a hundred thousand products and your warehouse has to be much larger to accommodate your standard holding. If you have extra shampoo, every single thing on the rest of that aisle has to be shifted down to make space for it.

Meanwhile, the picking really isn't being done by humans at all. You get on your Segway-equivalent, scan the barcode of the first item that's been printed on the packing slip. Segway tells you "That's section 42, aisle 8, shelf C" and drives you there. You grab it, get back on, and scan the next item. Meanwhile your computer already knows that was the last widget in that crate, and marks that pallet slot as empty for the next delivery of who-cares-what. Amazon sells too much of too many things for there to be "commonly picked" items in any meaningful sense of the word.

The warehouses I worked in both put the most-picked items in the aisles that were in the center of the warehouse, that way, you don't have to go to the farthest ends of the warehouse to get them.

Of course, the layout (where shipping/receiving/picking/packing areas are) of the warehouse will have some determination in this.

Speaking of Amazon, it has critics and defenders.

In my previous life bringing good things to life we early adopted an automated picker than operated the same way, except the carousel system was cheesey and a catastrophe. It moved all the materials in one of three carousels to get a tote in which resided temporarily a particular item. Somehow that was going to be the future of materials handling. Anybody who tells you corporations are efficient never worked for one.

But a robot would have no trouble.

I've noticed many of the graphic on the net don't give much source information. WaPo does quite av few, but an awfull lot of them come from dadaviz.

I've never heard of Chris Hardwick (hard wick, snicker) or Grace Helbig.

I guess that's why they were googled.

Seriously?

I love him! He's the Nerdist and Taikng Dead guy. Also has a late night panel show - @Midnight.

Hardwick is a stand-up comedian who also does really great podcast interviews and gets really awesome guests. He's involved at various levels in a whole bunch of stuff.

The Nerdist (and several others of the Nerdist.com stable of podcasts) is one of my favourite podcasts. Has a massive following.




from 2012:




The Nerdist podcasting empire:

http://nerdist.com/

I highly recommend both the Nerdist and the Nerdist Writers Panel podcasts. The guests they get are just fantastic. NWP gets really indepth with screen writers and showrunners, filmmakers, novelists and comicbook writers (though there's now a separate Comic Writer's Panel podcast). NP interviews all sorts of people.

Podcaster and Talk Show Host, are different animals over here. Why do you think it's called Nerdist?

Yes - but he has also hosted talk shows. The Talking Dead is a talk show follow up to the Walking Dead, Talking Bad during the final season of Breaking Bad, was similar.d@Midnight is part game show, part chat show. Also Nerdist was briefly a tv talk show (not sure but I think it was made by BBC America).



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Hardwick#Hosting

(As DanaC says) He's hosted a number of TV shows as well.

Grace Helbig is a Youtube celebrity who has been on a number of TV shows, and had her own short-lived talk show.

And made movies and done voice acting, however Mr & Mrs America would be confused if you call him a Talk Show Host. They barely know who Jon Stewart is.

Ah. Fair enough. I was just surprised Grav hadn't heard of him. Also it was an opportunity for me to tell anyone who'll listen about the Nerdist podcast... on account of its awesomeness. It's my current addiction. I've been binge listening to episodes from the archive.





In fact - I'm off to bed and I'm taking Nerdist with me (most recent ep has Owen Wilson so that should be a fun interview).

Hey, he's the most Googled is some places, so that's a good sign the word is spreading. :thumb:

Hehehehe

Thanks Dana, and HapMo.

I know who Jon Stewart is...He's a wrestler, right?

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Ran across this chart, supposedly from the PEW, which gives me some confidence although that would be easy to forge. Of course not seeing any big surprises makes me want to accept it, but sneaky people would slip in just enough error on the issue they want to influence, to look legit. Skeptical? Not me. :cool:

Anyway, it shows the split between scientists and the public on some issues.

Interesting that scientists are relatively down on astronauts but up on the space station.

I guess the rovers and the drill the comet thingy, convinced them the expense and difficulty isn't worth it. They're up on the space station just to spite tw. ;)

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They used shades of red which are pretty hard to discern from the next shade, Probably to build an easy defense. :haha:

I missed this when you posted it. I LOVE it.

Adore Rob Brydon. Because as much as he is a brilliant mimic, host, presenter, a quick wit, a good actor and scriptwriter, with a dark and dry sense of humour... he's also Welsh.

Blimey. How blessed can one man be.
Lwcus i fos ym cymraeg.

Big Bad Bikers. The best part of B movies is when a baddie on a bike pulls up beside a car and the driver panics, usually running off the road. :lol2:

http://cellar.org/2015/netwisdom.jpg
http://cellar.org/2015/Yawn.gif

But is it true? I suppose if it's just a 'that's interesting', it doesn't matter, and if it concerns you, then you can research it.
Yeah, I know, work is hard, and learning stuff causes headaches. :p:

I think the psycopath thing is true. I'm pretty sure that was the guy who made a documentary about it.

If I used myself as a control, and the result was that I was afflicted with the same condition I was testing for, I'd wonder about my hypothesis.
Because I'm assuming the man is not a killer, right?

Unless he was scanning his cellmates I suppose.
And when I say scanning I mean with a shiv...

Psychopathy comes about through a combination of genetic and environmental factors, if I recall the analysis correctly. His brain mapped out to the pattern associated with psychopaths, but he hadn't experienced the environmental aspects. The problem seems to be when someone with that brain set-up has a particular kind of upbringing. Someone without that brain set-up whose parents were cold and abusive comes out damaged but not psychopathic - someone with that brain set-up likely comes out psychopathic.

Someone can have all the starting traits but learn emotional responses and all that, from the family.

That's grossly simplified but there ya go.

LOL

And then, and then...

In a word, NO. The internet is just a global area network (GAN) of connected computers, and like a single computer, it cannot lie. Users can, tho.

I always tell the truth

except when I lie.

Even when you lie.

I prefer to stand.

Ahh...strong arms then?

The truth according to respected, peer reviewed, experts?
The truth according to common knowledge?
The truth according to the Internet?
The truth according to your Mom?
The truth according to FOX News?
The truth according to Garp?

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YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!!

Moi? I wouldn't strong arm anyone. Might short arm them if they have the kind of legs I like.

Short arm? Not touching that one. :headshake

The Congo one is definitely true. One of the most disturbing pictures I have ever seen is of a couple of the colonists standing next to a heap of hands.

I could see why that would make Belgians apprehensive about all the African refugees flooding into Europe. Paybacks are a bitch.