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Big Sarge 08-23-2014 03:01 PM

Thinking about it
 
Is it possible to have a meaningful relationship with a beautiful woman, who is almost 21? Consider that she is initiating the relationship where the desired goal is children. So many things race through my mind. Should a person be concerned if he had prior relationships with some of her stepmother and grandmother, yet both seem very supportive of said relationship?? :blush:

Should one follow the heart??

zippyt 08-23-2014 03:42 PM

do your own thing , buuuuut

Clodfobble 08-23-2014 05:27 PM

Sometimes I can't tell if you're joking or not, Sarge. But the rule is and always has been, "half your age, plus seven." So unless you're 26, that's a no.

sexobon 08-23-2014 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Sarge (Post 907986)
Is it possible to have a meaningful relationship with a beautiful woman, who is almost 21? Consider that she is initiating the relationship where the desired goal is children. ...

She wants you to adopt her?

orthodoc 08-23-2014 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Sarge (Post 907986)
Is it possible to have a meaningful relationship with a beautiful woman, who is almost 21?

Not unless you're between 18-26.

Big Sarge 08-23-2014 10:48 PM

Hmmm, so I can expect this won't be a blessed union by the folks here. ok. I seriously thought age didn't matter as long as the heart was true.

orthodoc 08-23-2014 11:08 PM

Sarge, please consider ... you've been down this road before. You have experience that has shown you that age does matter, despite the fact that your heart was true. You had a daughter with a beautiful young woman who was around the age of the woman you are currently involved with, and it's been difficult and painful for you to even have access to your child. Why would you want to repeat the experience? And what about the life (lives) of the child(ren) who will be caught in the middle?

The heart is important but not the only factor when other lives are involved.

Aliantha 08-23-2014 11:12 PM

I only think about all the trouble you have had due to the last relationship you had with a younger woman Sarge.

Why not keep to yourself, away from this woman completely for a month or so, and then see if you still feel the same.

Remember, you are pretty vulnerable emotionally at the moment. Don't mistake love for affection or vice versa. Could be that its a little more or less than what you think.

Most of all, just remember you have always been supported here. Dont take possibly wise counsel as an offence when it's not meant to be so. Xx

Gravdigr 08-24-2014 02:50 PM

♪ ♫...If you gotta crush♪ ♫
♪ ♫(Don't beat about the bush)♪ ♫
♪ ♫When I gotta crush♪ ♫
♪ ♫Run run away...♪ ♫

♪ ♫...Oh now can't you wait♪ ♫
♪ ♫(Love don't come on a plate)♪ ♫
♪ ♫Oh now can't you wait♪ ♫
♪ ♫Run run away...♪ ♫


~Run Run Away by Slade

Gravdigr 08-24-2014 02:52 PM

Sarge if it feels right, truly right, go for it.

But, please, make sure you ask yourself the hard questions here.


21?? Have a little fun anyway!

:jig:

BigV 08-24-2014 03:10 PM

Why not have a relationship?

I don't know so, so much about the situation; my thoughts are thus ill-informed. However, Sarge, what do YOU want from such a relationship? If you know, then share that with her. If they match what she wants, then why the hell not? Of course, knowing what one wants in a relationship is one of life's most difficult undertakings. There are lots of areas, lots of pieces and parties, changing feelings; that stuff is difficult to pin down, much less articulate.

But if you can, then by all means, share it. With her I mean, though I'd be interested too, if you want to share here. The "rules" described above are easy to express and evaluate, but that doesn't make them appropriate to apply to you or your situation.

My feelings about relationships have changed considerably since I was a youngster. There's no doubt I'm a better partner now that I've ever been, and much of that improvement is due to a better understanding I have about myself. Self-knowledge is hard, self-honesty is hard. But if you do know, and she knows, and they're compatible, I'd say that's a very good start.

classicman 08-24-2014 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Clodfobble (Post 907996)
But the rule is and always has been, "half your age, plus seven." So unless you're 26, that's a no.

Eh hem ... "half your age, plus FIVE."

Sarge - I've been with my GF for 9 years now so IMO it totally depends on the people involved.
The kid thing is a HUGE issue (redflag) for me. Are you seriously looking to father and support more children - AGAIN?!?!?!? Call me crazy, but .... I'd :bolt:

Clodfobble 08-24-2014 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by classicman
Eh hem ... "half your age, plus FIVE."

Hey, no judgment here, I myself was the lower half of a rule-breaking relationship in my teens... but Sarge would still be breaking the rule even if it were plus-five (which it's not, you cradle-robber. :))

classicman 08-24-2014 06:43 PM

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Ha! Well that "rule" doesn't work as one ages. The ratios change.
At one point I think we were breaking the rule, but now its OK ... or maybe it was the other way around.

Speaking of which... here is us from our trip to Punta Cana in June.

Clodfobble 08-24-2014 10:58 PM

Well sure, the whole point is the ratio changes, because age matters less the older you are. 33 and 16? Definitely creepy. 67 and 50? Still 17 years apart, but infinitely less weird.

You two look like you had a lot of fun! It's good to see you around again. How's Dan?

lumberjim 08-25-2014 12:01 AM

it's 7 Dave

google it


ok, i'm 44, so 22 + 7. I can date 29 yr olds or older. Amanda is 36. I'm good.

...until she turns 40 and goes crazy, like ALL women do.

lumberjim 08-25-2014 12:11 AM

oh, and Sarge, you know the answer already. You're only asking US in hopes that we will be able to come up with some satisfactory justification that would make that kind of thing OK in your own mind.

Regardless of age... if youv'e had relations with her stepmom and grand mom... the answer is FUCK NO. What are you doing, writing a pR0NO?

Shake it off.

Tap it if you can, but DO NOT allow her to develop feelings, much less trap your ass with a dependent. You're in no position to father a child in this world. You've got to get your own battles won and put to rest.

I'll assume you are just bragging about the 3 generation conquest... and for that you have my astonished respeck. that's pretty strong. and I think we know which red head you're talking about.... guh.

got any fresh pics? or can you close her on posting a current pose or two?

no kids, dumb ass. it's not even up for discussion.

Big Sarge 08-25-2014 02:07 PM

This isn't a matter for bragging. I poorly worded my statement. Let me tell all of you something, I have always kept my children clothed, fed, and in good medical condition. I, like all parents, have gone without to take care of them. My car might be 24 years old, but I have always tried to provide them with fairly new cars in good condition.

Now, let us never speak of this manner again.

lumberjim 08-25-2014 04:35 PM

So mote it be.

Sorry I called you dumb ass

Big Sarge 08-25-2014 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by lumberjim (Post 908154)
So mote it be.

Sorry I called you dumb ass

i took no offense, because that part is true.

Undertoad 08-25-2014 04:57 PM

I don't mean to say anything about yer friends or whatever it is they may be

because I don't know anything about anyone

and I'm not saying anything about anyone.

But it seems to me like one reason she would find desire for you is that she is damaged goods.

I'm not saying she is damaged goods or anyone is damaged goods. I'm saying that's one possible reason why that may occur.

But if she is damaged goods you won't exactly be fixing her. I mean they call that thing a tool, but it doesn't actually, I mean, okay.

So if the question is is the relationship meaningful well I.... have no grounds to say. Fuggit do whatever you like

Big Sarge 08-25-2014 05:27 PM

there is no problem guys and i am taking your advice as sage counsel. i truly have not been offended, i simply decided to drop the subject.

Gravdigr 08-27-2014 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Undertoad (Post 908162)
But it seems to me like one reason she would find desire for you is that she is damaged goods.

Damn. Just stick your finger in his eye, why dontcha?

:biglaugha

Undertoad 08-27-2014 04:05 PM

Hee hee

But no, I'm not saying, I'm just saying, your standard young 'un should look at him, and you, and me, and say damn, what a bunch of creepy old guys, I hope to hell they don't hit on me because that would be weird and horrible ...and they are right

Gravdigr 08-27-2014 05:02 PM

And that's just why, given the chance, he oughta tap that ass...

...and then slowly back away.

Big Sarge 08-28-2014 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Gravdigr (Post 908322)
And that's just why, given the chance, he oughta tap that ass...

...and then slowly back away.

did that!!!!!:cool:

Lola Bunny 08-28-2014 01:45 PM

Damn, Sarge. You da man!

Big Sarge 08-28-2014 02:26 PM

It is easy for me because all women love shoes. I seem to attract the following types:

1. Batshit crazy
2. Women with Daddy issues
3. Women with a panda fetish
4. Did I mention women who were batshit crazy???


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