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monster 12-29-2013 09:20 PM

Schumacher critical after ski accident
 
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-25545993

this is why I let my kids play "dangerous sports". because you never know where it's going to come from, but probably where you least expect it. Hope he recovers.

DanaC 12-30-2013 03:26 AM

Yeah. Hope he is ok.

Griff 12-30-2013 07:55 AM

hmm... going skiing today.

Molasar 12-30-2013 01:26 PM

funny that there's no thread on F1 or any 4-wheel motorsport (or if there is I haven't found it yet) yet Michael Schumacher makes a thread in here.
personally I can't stand the man as a driver but he still holds the all-time record of seven F1 WDCs, and despite my opinion of all his filthy tricks was a bloody good driver, one of the best ever.
for his sake and his wife and kids I wish him a full recovery - I'd be willing to bet that as soon as he wakes he'll be back to dishing out the orders to the medics as if they were his pit crew.

Gravdigr 12-30-2013 03:42 PM

It's a little crazy, ain't it? All the insane fast driving, car crashes, motorcycle crashes...

...and he's damn near died from, essentially, falling over.

DanaC 12-30-2013 04:04 PM

Falling over, at speed down a mountainside and slamming his head into a rock.

Apparently he's only alive now because of the helmet he was wearing. Had he not been wearing one he'd never have made it to the hospital. He's now in an induced coma whilst they oxygenate his brain and try to get the swelling down.

I really hope he comes through. I've always liked Schumacher.

monster 12-30-2013 06:12 PM

I don't like him as a person because I find him very conceited, but I don't wish him harm.

Molasar, the Cellar is very yank-heavy, and only redneck yanks are into "motorsport" ;) :p: F1 just doesn't cut it here. We could get it on TV for a very brief time when we first moved here, but then they moved it to an expensive somewhat obscure channel so we learned to do without. if we need a thrill on wheels fix, we just go watch the locals try to navigate the multiple roundabouts that are popping up everywhere. :lol:

But a Schumacher headline cannot go unnoted

(expat Brit, but long-expatted)



is there anyone I missed offending with that post? the Aussies perhaps?

orthodoc 12-30-2013 08:22 PM

I have no thoughts about Schumacher, but the concept of living dangerously because the equivalent of a bus running over you may happen at any moment really doesn't make sense.

Assess the quantifiable risks connected with what you (or what you're committing your kids to do) are doing. If they're acceptable, and equally, if they're unacceptable, make your decision. But don't rely on the 'a bus may run over me tomorrow' theory. It's bullshit.

If you're making the decision for anyone but yourself, increase caution by a factor of at least ten. Preferably more. Because you're not the one who'll have to live with being quadriplegic.

lumberjim 12-30-2013 08:38 PM

I didn't realize he is The Stig. must have missed that.

xoxoxoBruce 12-30-2013 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by orthodoc (Post 887734)
Assess the quantifiable risks connected with what you (or what you're committing your kids to do) are doing. If they're acceptable, and equally, if they're unacceptable, make your decision. But don't rely on the 'a bus may run over me tomorrow' theory. It's bullshit.

Aw, Mom. :(


I find myself taking less risks in what I hope is the proper proportion to how much longer it takes me to heal.

orthodoc 12-30-2013 09:01 PM

I take more risks in proportion to how much longer I can reasonably expect to live. I don't presume to have the right to do that on behalf of others.

xoxoxoBruce 12-30-2013 09:03 PM

That gets tricky when your life expectancy in written on a yoyo for awhile.

monster 12-30-2013 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by orthodoc (Post 887734)
I have no thoughts about Schumacher, but the concept of living dangerously because the equivalent of a bus running over you may happen at any moment really doesn't make sense.

Assess the quantifiable risks connected with what you (or what you're committing your kids to do) are doing. If they're acceptable, and equally, if they're unacceptable, make your decision. But don't rely on the 'a bus may run over me tomorrow' theory. It's bullshit.

If you're making the decision for anyone but yourself, increase caution by a factor of at least ten. Preferably more. Because you're not the one who'll have to live with being quadriplegic.

What's the wait list like for sense of humor transplants? eh?

Sundae 12-31-2013 05:51 AM

The media here was saturated with the "ongoing" news about Schumacher.
Personally I think there are more important things to report. But here on a forum, in a Sports thread, it's definitely justified.

Saying that, the media have moved on again - oh fickle! fickle!
We're back to Bulgarian/ Romanian immigrants.
I want to know more about Schumacher, please.

orthodoc 12-31-2013 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by monster (Post 887607)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-25545993

this is why I let my kids play "dangerous sports". because you never know where it's going to come from, but probably where you least expect it.

Sorry, didn't realize you were making a funny.

BigV 12-31-2013 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lumberjim (Post 887739)
I didn't realize he is The Stig. must have missed that.

F'realz?!?

I ve seen his work; A-mazing.

lumberjim 12-31-2013 11:19 AM

There is some controversy about his identity, but rumor has it. http://imgur.com/gallery/5PD59fP

BigV 12-31-2013 12:18 PM

Some facts, some rumors


en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Stig#Michael_Schumacher_.27revealed.27

Molasar 12-31-2013 12:38 PM

Aw gee @monster, aw shucks, lordy lordy, yeee-haaaarr!,...
and so on and so forth.
Yes old chap I'm fully aware that I'm a visitor from the former Imperial Power and a guest (without a green card) in the Land of the Brave and the Home of the Free.
Even so if even Koreans and Russians can hold F1 Grand Prix races and the USA already does then surely it must be heard of even if it's quite rightly not as popular as the homegrown varieties like Indy, CART, NASCAR and so on.

Molasar 12-31-2013 01:02 PM

incidentally revealing MS as The Stig was a super trick played by the BBC TV programme Top Gear, and MS was a good sport for playing along with it.
Good television but like most of Top Gear, utter bollocks. Enjoyable, sometimes funny, but bollocks nonetheless.

classicman 12-31-2013 03:53 PM

Don't know him from a hole in the wall. Hope his condition improves.

monster 12-31-2013 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Molasar (Post 887834)
Aw gee @monster, aw shucks, lordy lordy, yeee-haaaarr!,...
and so on and so forth.
Yes old chap I'm fully aware that I'm a visitor from the former Imperial Power and a guest (without a green card) in the Land of the Brave and the Home of the Free.
Even so if even Koreans and Russians can hold F1 Grand Prix races and the USA already does then surely it must be heard of even if it's quite rightly not as popular as the homegrown varieties like Indy, CART, NASCAR and so on.

Nope, no-one is interested in F1 here, no-one knows what it is or who he is. So sorry for trying to asplain it. :rolleyes" NASCAR or nothing. There's the occasional F1GP here ...NO-ONE GOES. only foreign TV interest keeps it alive. Be interesting to see if Texas can make it happen. Maybe they should Have Clodfobble commentate.


Anyhoo, glad to see that his condition is improved if still critical and I hope this does wonders to encourage everyone to wear decent helmets when appropriate.

Rhianne 12-31-2013 06:20 PM

There is a large and knowledgeable following of F1 in the US.

Some of the best attendancies in recent times have been at the US races - more than 250,000 over the three days (110,000+ on race day) in Austin for each of the past two years for example.

BigV 12-31-2013 06:58 PM

Welcome back Rhianne! And congrats on reaching double double digits post count. ;-)

Clodfobble 12-31-2013 10:10 PM

It's true, the new F1 track here in Austin has been wildly successful so far... But it's all out-of-town traffic, and quite a bit of it foreign. All rich people too, a completely different feel than NASCAR fandom.

xoxoxoBruce 01-01-2014 10:04 AM

F-1 has stumbled repeatedly in the US, very little grass roots enthusiasm. It appears the Austin bid for permanence is working on the, destination-for-the-rich-and-famous-to-see-and-be-seen, like the dog and pony show surrounding the F-1 races everywhere.

I would call attention to the fact that automobile racing in dozens of forms other than NASCAR are enjoyed by millions in the US every weekend. The SCCA is working on building a brand new multi-million dollar track in New England, with NO spectator facilities, NO TV facilities, strictly for racers and crews.

Sundae 01-01-2014 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 887959)
The SCCA is working on building a brand new multi-million dollar track in New England, with NO spectator facilities, NO TV facilities, strictly for racers and crews.

The Shropshire Cycling Clubs Association?!

I have noticed a tendency in America for large companies trying to foist world events on the populace, only for them to respond, "Meh." The World Cup being one which stands out to me. Of course.

The Olympics (bizarrely) another; I was shocked to read here, from Dwellars, about the poor coverage.

And see and hear voxpops in the general media suggesting Merkins barely even knew a Paralympics existed. Although of course you can always find maroons willing to talk to camera, no-one seemed to be able to name a Paralympian. Not even Oscar Pistorius. That may be different now of course.

Aliantha 01-01-2014 03:11 PM

I cant imagine not knowing who MS IS, even though i dont enjoy motor sports. I grew up hearing his name. Well, maybe not grew up, but it seems like it. F1 gets the interest of the more serious motorspots enthusiasts here. V8's get the most interest across the board though. Everyone loves a muscle car.

footfootfoot 01-01-2014 03:14 PM

I'm pretty sure he's on my celebrity death pond list

Gravdigr 01-02-2014 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lumberjim (Post 887739)
I didn't realize he is The Stig. must have missed that.

I knew he had been a Stig, I saw the show when they unveiled him, but, was he the current Stig?


ETA: Holy shit! We've been had.

Quote:

The identity of the original "Black" Stig, Perry McCarthy, was exposed by a Sunday newspaper in January 2003, and confirmed by McCarthy later that year. The black-suited Stig was subsequently killed off that October in the series 3 premiere, and replaced in the following episode by a new White Stig who lasted through series 15. In series 13, the show jokingly unmasked the Stig as seven-time world champion F1 driver Michael Schumacher. In the hiatus following series 15, racing driver Ben Collins was revealed to be the Stig in a court battle over Collins' impending autobiography, titled The Man in the White Suit. In series 16, debuting in December 2010, Collins was replaced by a second White Stig, whose identity has so far remained secret.


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