The Difference Between Infinite and Finite
 

There is no repetition in any sets finite or infinite. Whether a set is finite or infinite is a matter of "how many" elements are in a set.

Simply put, if a set is finite, you can list the elements in the set and actually finish listing them. A set is infinite if you could never actually finish creating a list of the elements in it.

The natural numbers is an example of an infinite set. You can begin listing them today, say one a second, and never finish, there would always be another to add to the list. The even natural numbers is a subset of the naturals that is also infinite.

In accordance with the above, the Trinity is a finite set: therefore, God is finite and not infinite or else God would be called the Infinity instead of the Trinity. Thanks for pointing that out.

God exist out side of time.. the TRINITY is a set principle for man to follow until Jesus returns. Therefore God is infinite because mans days are numbered the soul moves on the body is dust and when time ends the trinity will probably be replaced with a different principle.

If God exists outside of time, then God is finite. An infinite God would exist outside of time and inside of time.

Other creatures have become extinct while man continues to exist. That doesn't mean that man is infinite. Likewise, if man becomes extinct while God continues to exist that doesn't mean that God is infinite.

Jesus is part of the Trinity. If the Trinity will be replaced when time runs out, that means Jesus will be replaced when time runs out. If Jesus can be replaced, then Jesus is not God. Thanks for pointing that out.

Your mistaking "Godly Principles" for "Human Understanding". God exist out side of Time and he can reach in anytime he wants. Lean NOT on your own understanding and stop trying to twist Godly Principles to Fit your Own Understanding.

Your "human understanding" means that your understanding of Godly principles is no more valid than anyone else's. YOU did the math that proved God is finite. YOU did the math that proved Jesus cannot be God. YOU admitted that your "human understanding" cannot comprehend Godly principles. YOU cast God out of mankind's time. YOU'RE TWISTED. Thanks for pointing that out.

Infinity Means something will Go ON Forever and Ever. God is Jesus The Father and The Holy Spirit all joined together. And that is the Trinity. It is a "Godly Principle" that was set into motion the day Jesus ascend into heaven and released the Holy Spirit. No-one Knows what Heaven is Like except the ones who have been there. If I had any sort of Power to do what you say I probably would be twisted as you say. How can some simple man "cast God out out of Man Kinds Time". Your F'ull of C'rap. Have Faith it works.

You're the shit for brains who said: "God exist out side of Time and he can reach in anytime he wants." Your God is finite; because, in your mind you cast him out of mankind's time only allowing for visits.

I said: "An infinite God would exist outside of time and inside of time." My God is everywhere (including inside and outside of time), always and forever. My God, the one true God, is infinite.

Faith is something that makes humble people Godly. It's all too often demanded by arrogant shithouse preachers who think they can define God for others. You worship at the alter of Technology which enables you to do this.

REPENT JBKlyde! Your blasphemy is writing checks that your immortal soul can't cash.

Faith is Being Sure of What you HOPE for and Confident of What you Cannot See... You speak of this "One True God" but you have no clue who he is. You Believe there is ONE GOD.. Good even the demons believe that and "SHUTTER."

So god is defined by String Theory?

You got it bass-ackwards. Strings are defined by God. Why do you think angels play harps? :eyebrow:

Not Jewish angels. Their harps don't have strings. So they must have a different god.

Same God, it's just that not all angels can be in the orchestra, some have to be in the choir.

You're mistaking "Being ... Confident of What you Cannot See" for your "Human Understanding" of "Faith". Lean NOT on your own "HOPE" and stop trying to twist Faith to Fit your Own Understanding.

If I say there is one God, you say "Good even the demons believe that ..." so apparently you know how demons believe: I guess it takes one to know one. REPENT JBKlyde, THE POWER OF CHRIST COMPELS YOU!

sexobon you are clearly over step-ing your boundaries I am indirectly quoting the bible here...

https://www.google.com/search?q=stea...w=1024&bih=667

death is an inevitable fact but that dose n't mean we have to bow before it.....
be carefull with that spunk mouth...

It is all about faith. God said it, I believe it, and that settles it.

That's demon doubletalk.

HOLD YOUR DEMON TONGUE JBKlyde, THE POWER OF CHRIST COMPELS YOU!

Being a comment on faith, that probably belongs in the Philosophy forum. This is the TECHNOLOGY forum; so, which God said it: the finite God of demon JBKlyde; or, the one true infinite God?

Why are you baiting JB? Given his mental health problems it's pretty ugly.

The Scorpion and the Frog

A scorpion and a frog meet on the bank of a stream and the
scorpion asks the frog to carry him across on its back.
The frog asks, "How do I know you won't sting me?"
The scorpion says, "Because if I do, I will die too."

The frog is satisfied, and they set out, but in midstream,
the scorpion stings the frog. The frog feels the onset of
paralysis and starts to sink, knowing they both will drown,
but has just enough time to gasp "Why?"

Replies the scorpion: "Its my nature..."

If I had a demon tounge I wouldn't be compelled by jesus now would I... you hipocracy is somewhat lunatical sexobon... I'm not going to argue with your ridculiousnees

very clever, you.

And the indicators are that the power of Christ did compel JBKlyde to hold his tongue.


PS: The frog was too stupid to live. Scorpions float.

Dear heathen pothead with nice nipples, :yum:

I wanted to see if he could apply the gist of his opening post to resolve a practical situation; or, if he just plagiarized it. I substituted deities for numbers to see if he could draw the analogy of the Trinity being a subset of an infinite God rather than a finite set. That would have ended the conversation. Instead, he went off on some Time Lord tangent about God being outside of time, wild speculation about the Trinity being replaced at the end of time, and his mental health problematical interpretation of Godly principles. It became obvious that his OP was plagiarized without comprehension (probably how it ended up in the Technology forum) and was just attention whoring. At that point it became fodder for entertainment. If he didn't want to entertain me, he had at least two routes of egress: stop replying to my posts (I would have reciprocated) and put me on ignore (his loss). He exercised free will in HIS choice to remain engaged and if you don't think he has the right to self determination, talk to UT about restricting him to a children's forum. I don't see where anyone else has a mouth except maybe, perhaps, if they actually gave a rats ass about him, to clue him in that if you don't want to get stung ... you don't play with scorpions. Throughout history scorpions have represented both good and evil: I'm just a mirror.

I once saw god claim he could pull a rabbit out of his hat. Unfortunately it was a wrong hat.

You probably know him. His name is Bull. His uncle is Rip Van Winkle.

By performing two more tricks, then the church will make him a Saint. If he also accidentally becomes Pope, then the Church will expedite his canonization

Where does one buy clothing and equipment to become a Saint? I'd ask god. But gods do not talk. They are too almighty to answer questions from us or the press.

I suppose if you really did care about God or anyone at all and not just complicating others and satisfying your own agenda you would realize God is eternal which ever way you look at it and not just some pointless workman defeated in his plans... if you really cared you would work together for the better good to prove God as being a divine being that is beyond the understanding of all of us.. but apparently you don't care or else you would be more focused on proving God right and not reducing him to a stupid argument in the spectacle of the public...

Whether or not another person can 'handle it' is separate from your choice to be a dick. It's possible to be a dick to a Turing machine, too.


Also, just so you know, infinite sets are countable, and thus a trinity does not have to be a subset of the infinite.

You say the above; but, after all the effort I put into keeping it within the realm of the opening post, trying to ensure that the other person can "handle it," then you seem to want to fault me for not expanding into aleph numbers by saying -

Also, just so you know, THE Trinity = God so they exist in aleph-naught which is infinite and in which every finite set has a maximum and finite unions of finite sets are finite. The key is to recognize that THE Trinity is not a union of sets finite or infinite; rather, it is an expression of infinity's relationship to a specific finite subset. This is evidenced by the fact that THE Trinity consists of God the Father who is infinite, God the Son (Jesus Christ), and God the Holy Spirit (the luv duv) in which both of the latter are dependent on the first for existence. If you take away God the Father, you don't have the other two. If you isolate the Son, the Holy Spirit, and the Father as separate infinite sets that are countable, you then define them. If you think you can define God ... that's not God. The purpose of having THE Trinity is to preserve the mystery of God.

I just did that with Clodfobble who can be a forked tongue dingbat if she doesn't get her morning cup of coffee. I'm happy to see that you're taking this all in stride despite your detractors who've been implying that you're just a little girlie man due to your challenges. I don't think so, at least not while you're in compliance with your treatments. You can deal, man - you're a Mighty Dwellar:

Rat shit
Bat shit
Dirty old twat
69 douche bags tied in a knot
Cockpuppet, sockpuppet, anonymous too
I'm a Mighty Cellar Dwellar
Who the fuck are you?

Oh yeah, totally keeping in line with the original discussion points, you were. :rolleyes:

So I paraphrased a line from the movie The Exorcist (i.e. the power of Christ compels you), lighten up, that's entertainment!

not very entertaining to me... using the name of God for your own musings isn't a very righteous thing to do...

Took you three days to figure out a reply and you still figured wrong, huh. You were entertaining me and I didn't hear God complain even one iota. Seems that you're a poor judge of God's sense of humor among other things.

While driving my Chevy Lumina, god stopped by for a visit. He gave me a message for everyone here. God said he still cares about us. And yes, He still loves us. And yes, the world can work if we are willing to put in the effort. He wants the people of the world to know that it is all up to them.

He also said, "If it's hard to have faith in Me, maybe it will help to know that I have faith in you."

So what's the problem?

You let God drive your Chevy! Does your insurance cover that?

Whether or not you believe in God is not as important as whether or not God believes in you.

(old saying I just made up)

Did you know God smokes cigars? And they don't make ashes. I guess he leaves ashes and dust to be a human thing.

Did you know God's a ventriloquist? Talking through Dummies for Dummies is his bible.

Jeff Dunham already has a large cast of characters including Walter, (a grumpy retiree), a beer-swilling, NASCAR-loving and resolutely red neck Bubba J, the furry and manic Peanut, Jose Jalapeno, and bumbling Achmed the Dead Terrorist. Now he can add God?

So who will get top billing? If God gets top billing, then what would the other dummies say?

sexobon you are just making up arguments for the sake of argueing, the entire point of this thread really had nothing to do with God untill you started filling it with your idiodicy.. the point was more referring to the current state of money affairs in america how the national debt clock is just infidently ticking away while america is just infidently spending money.. I of which have none there's a scripture in the bible that says you can't serve 2 masters God or Money make your choice as the debt clock clicks away and America slowly goes to hell... The way I see it the world my be going to hell but I am not... and I am wearing the Healment of Salvation so I am not going to let some erotic cat tell me any different...

It took you TWO WEEKS to make up THAT cockamamie bullshit story! If your opening post had pertained to what you're now claiming, it would have been put in the Current Events or the Politics forum, NOT the Technology forum. Additionally, you certainly would have expressed a purpose for that opening post before now.

On top of that, you contradict yourself by saying it really had nothing to do with God while referencing the Bible (God's Word) and the name of God as relative to your opening post.

JBKlyde you're a liar and for that your eternal soul is going to BURN!

Note:I will heed your warning and re-buke

and maybe I am a liar but it's not like I'm robbing a bank and not "telling" you about it...

NOTE:

Your eternal soul is already heating up so much your flesh may go into spontaneous combustion!

feels good

Do wah diddy diddy dum diddy do.

now suck your eye balls back through the computer, add tell me where all the money is going..

strippers

right up the butt huh?? scarry if a nympohmanica or anything of the such approches meI will sternly re-buke them myself and be on my way... I spend about 40 dollars a week on ciggeretts and the rest is for food... not even close....

They were really good looking, nice girls from poor families, just working their way through college. A couple of them were attending Divinity School to become ministers.

and it's an electronic ciggerette.. and the thing on the bulls head is like a "tuening fork" so just let that brain fire...

None of the strippers smoked. They said that cigarettes are the devil's nipples and they would never puff on them. You could see they all had nice sets of lungs. They kept them clean and cleanliness is next to godliness.

Jeff Dunham will not have a dummy named Mohammed. God does not care. Others do.

Serve onto God what is God's. Serve onto earth what is relevant on earth.

Once I am concerned with God, then I will no longer worry about paying my bills.

well I'm just puffing on electrons then,,,

and If you want my advice M-O-MOM I would just plant a black-olive tree right smack out on front of the white house... for future generations...

The strippers gave better advice. They say just plant a metal pole right smack out on front of the White House... so they can pole dance there for us now...

As always, sexobon, you live down to expectations.

If I valued your opinion I would have asked for it.

God comes first then the people...

No charge. Because it's you.