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xoxoxoBruce 10-03-2013 10:09 PM

Facebook Is A Downer
 
Scientific American.

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However, it doesn’t take much reflection to notice that the way people interact with each other has radically changed in recent years. Much of our contact happens not face-to-face, but rather while staring at screen-based digital representations of each other, with Facebook being the most prominent example. This raises a very fundamental question – how does online interaction with other people differ from interacting with people in person?

One possible way these two interaction styles might differ is through how rewarding we find them to be. Does interacting with Facebook make us feel good as does interacting with people in real life? A recent paper suggests that the answer is “probably not.” In fact, the data from this paper suggest that the more we interact with Facebook, the worse we tend to feel.

lumberjim 10-03-2013 11:25 PM

I think it's good for initiating contact with distant friends. ... either distance distant, or time distant.

I recently contacted a former friend/boss that I had not talked to in 10+ years...We switched to phone and chatted like we used to do at 3am working late shift at Dennys. She lives in Maine now. Heidi.

She is like Brianna. Obnoxious, and awesome. I tried to recruit her to the cellar, but she is off the grid. Only gets online sporadically at the college she works for.

I'd rather speak face to face, but some contact is better than none. And if not for fb, there would have been just that.

infinite monkey 10-03-2013 11:27 PM

Facebook would be good if it weren't for all the assertions that everyone has produced kids made of solid gold, the perfect humans in perfect relationships, all the walks in the park and days by the seashore and perpetual goddamn happiness of every single person on earth. Isn't that what the 'family christmas letters' were for? Fake fake fake fake/elaine benes

it's not for sharing information, it's not for being real...it's a conglomerate of victims of Bill Mumy's Twilight Zone episode: it's a GOOD life. It's all so fucking wonderful. There isn't an ounce of honesty or thought behind any of it.

I disabled my account earlier today. The next step is complete deletion. I found a website to guide me.

I don't need any more fake shit and phony crap. I can just look around in my real world for that. Mostly, I'm not fooled by the modern day equivalent of "look how great I am."

Aliantha 10-04-2013 02:49 AM

I like facebook. It helpe me keep in touch with family who are in other cities or countries. It also gives me a place to store and share pics (mostly of the kids). I think i am pretty real about my content there. Sometimes life is shitty. Sometimes i am trying really hard to convince myself its not. Sometimes life is good.

John Sellers 10-04-2013 03:42 AM

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Originally Posted by infinite monkey (Post 878524)
I disabled my account earlier today. The next step is complete deletion. I found a website to guide me.

I thought Frakbook only allowed account deactivation, not complete deletion.

This is the thing most webmasters don't think about. When a user deactivates, closes, or deletes his or her account, it should be totally erased from a given website's database upon cancellation leaving absolutely no trace. It's be as if that user had never registered at that website. This might mean that if a user decides to re-register an account, he or she will have to re-enter his or her info., but it also has the advantage of allowing the user to start fresh (like I'd like to do on PayPal, Google, Yahoo, and a bunch of other sites).

DanaC 10-04-2013 04:21 AM

I hate the way they draw conclusions about virtual interaction from Facebook.

I find interacting in the virtual sphere really enhances my life - depending on where that interaction is. The Cellar for example has enriched my life enormously and helped me through all sorts of bad times. I enjoy interacting with the people here: I have good friends here.

I find Facebook demoralising and at times depressing. I don't like interacting on there.

It's like judging face to face interaction purely on how you feel at a family gathering at Christmas.

Griff 10-04-2013 05:23 AM

Guess what I joined this week. Gonna have two girls in college next year who I need to keep track of. So far my impression is it looks like a lot of prostylization, baby pictures, and some organization stuff that'd work better texting. If Al Q and the NSA use it, it must be awesome.

glatt 10-04-2013 07:43 AM

I have a love hate relationship with facebook. I post a fair number of pictures on there, mainly for the grandparents to see what's going on. I don't like phone calls, and never call them. So this way they can see what we're up to. I share less than I used to a few years ago. Depends on my mood.

Nobody wants to hear about homework wars or how I hate my job, so I only post the interesting stuff. That skews reality a bit, but so does any communication.

I go back and forth between making my stuff public and trying to target it to specific individuals. Depends on my mood.

I hate how FB follows you around to different sites and recommends connections for you based on all their knowledge and how they track everything you do and sell that information. But I like seeing what my friends are up to and having a convenient place to share pictures.

infinite monkey 10-04-2013 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by John Sellers (Post 878539)
I thought Frakbook only allowed account deactivation, not complete deletion.

This is the thing most webmasters don't think about. When a user deactivates, closes, or deletes his or her account, it should be totally erased from a given website's database upon cancellation leaving absolutely no trace. It's be as if that user had never registered at that website. This might mean that if a user decides to re-register an account, he or she will have to re-enter his or her info., but it also has the advantage of allowing the user to start fresh (like I'd like to do on PayPal, Google, Yahoo, and a bunch of other sites).

John, I found information on deletion at this site:

http://www.techhive.com/article/2050...k-account.html

I don't know how thorough it is, but if you want to go back to facebook you are starting from scratch with the deletion. I can still go back and regain my account with deactivating...but I don't know if I want to.

Perry Winkle 10-04-2013 09:04 AM

I deleted my Facebook account maybe 2 years ago. Couldn't have made a better decision. I wish my wife would kill her account. She spends anywhere from 1 hour to all damn day on it.

John Sellers 10-04-2013 02:40 PM

And after having an on/off "relationship" with Twitter, I think I've finally decided to quit tweeting for good. Yesterday, I de-activated my account for the last time.

John Sellers 10-04-2013 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by infinite monkey (Post 878561)
John, I found information on deletion at this site:

http://www.techhive.com/article/2050...k-account.html

I don't know how thorough it is, but if you want to go back to facebook you are starting from scratch with the deletion.

Thanx, but no thanx. I don't care for the way Frakbook works.

Gravdigr 10-04-2013 02:59 PM

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...how does online interaction with other people differ from interacting with people in person?
Well, online, people don't get the shit slapped out of them nearly often enough.

John Sellers 10-04-2013 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Gravdigr (Post 878623)
Well, online, people don't get the shit slapped out of them nearly often enough.

Agreed. If someone insults you or bullies you online, they don't have to be concerned with physical retaliation...even tho some people richly deserve a good beatdown.

monster 10-04-2013 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by John Sellers (Post 878539)
This is the thing most webmasters don't think about. When a user deactivates, closes, or deletes his or her account, it should be totally erased from a given website's database upon cancellation leaving absolutely no trace. It's be as if that user had never registered at that website. This might mean that if a user decides to re-register an account, he or she will have to re-enter his or her info., but it also has the advantage of allowing the user to start fresh (like I'd like to do on PayPal, Google, Yahoo, and a bunch of other sites).

Maybe they do think about it (most of them are pretty smart). Maybe they know there are trolls/attention hos out there who get off on flouncing off demanding to be deleted or creating new accounts when they have run out of tricks, and the webmasters want to give the other users the option to call them out on their BS when the come back anew?

lumberjim 10-04-2013 10:45 PM

More of them need fucking grammar lessons.

I just unfriended a former school mate because I had enough of her vague, unpunctuated posts about how pissed she was at 'you know who you are' about 'you know what you did', followed, or possibly preceded. ..I can never tell which. .. immediately by a 'If you love Jesus, share this stupid quote, or get cancer if you don't' post.

Retard.

infinite monkey 10-05-2013 04:16 AM

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Originally Posted by John Sellers (Post 878618)
Thanx, but no thanx. I don't care for the way Frakbook works.

You were saying you didnt think you could delete an account, in response to me saying i might delete my account. I was sharing where i found the information about deleting.

Note to self: no matter what he calls himself...John/Dracks/Drax/Datalyss/Mortal Sphincter will always be annoying.

John Sellers 10-05-2013 04:56 AM

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Originally Posted by infinite monkey (Post 878749)
You were saying you didnt think you could delete an account, in response to me saying i might delete my account. I was sharing where i found the information about deleting.

Sorry. I shoulda been clearer. I meant thanks for the link, but I'm not interested in Frakbook one bit. I just wanted to know how you did it cuz I knew users could de-activate their account, but not delete it completely.

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Originally Posted by infinite monkey (Post 878749)
No matter what he calls himself, John/Dracks/Drax/Datalyss/Mortal Sphincter/Thanatos/Zorak/Ferdibrand Gamgee/Johnny Cripple/Gorum will always be annoying.

Thanks, I try. :D

infinite monkey 10-05-2013 08:26 AM

please don't attribute a quote to me that YOU'VE added a couple slurs that i wouldn't use, without saying which parts you made up. That's a big naughty naugthy no no in post etiquette.

Mortal Sphincter, though, that was mine, and damn funny if I say so myself. ;)

I KNOW you just wanted to know how deleting could be done and my post didn't imply that you were a bacefook user nor did it suggest you become one.

So, anyway...

lumberjim 10-05-2013 12:18 PM

I lolled over mortal sphincter. .
Movie trailer guy:
John Smellers is Mortal Sphincter.... now in theatres....

John Sellers 10-05-2013 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by infinite monkey (Post 878763)
please don't attribute a quote to me that YOU'VE added a couple slurs that i wouldn't use, without saying which parts you made up. That's a big naughty naugthy no no in post etiquette.

Slurs? Where, exactly?

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Originally Posted by infinite monkey (Post 878763)
Mortal Sphincter, though, that was mine, and damn funny if I say so myself. ;)

I liked that one too. That's why I added my other monikers (generated via various name generators).

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Originally Posted by infinite monkey (Post 878763)
...my post didn't imply that you were a facefook user nor did it suggest you become one.

I never thought. Apologies for the misunderstanding. My bad.

John Sellers 10-05-2013 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lumberjim (Post 878787)
I lolled over mortal sphincter. .
Movie trailer guy:
John Smellers is Mortal Sphincter.... now in theatres....

You can all me Drax, Datalyss, Mortal Whatever, I don't care, but Sellers is my family name. Please respect it.

jimhelm 10-05-2013 04:27 PM

I just thought John (toilet) smeller went well.

no disrespect intended.

John Sellers 10-05-2013 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by jimhelm (Post 878834)
I just thought John (toilet) smeller went well.

Well, it didn't, but...

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Originally Posted by jimhelm (Post 878834)
no disrespect intended.

...:thankyou:

limegreenc 10-05-2013 08:47 PM

I had this 'friend' a few years back who dated this guy right after her husband left her. The relationship was rocky from the start, but he had lots of money and a new car. Only thing was the guy spent $100 a weekend on booze. She started drinking to keep up with him 'can't beat 'em join 'em'.
One weekend they had a big fight so he pulls her downstairs by the hair and out the door. He tosses all her possessions out onto the lawn. She calls the cops and he's thrown in jail for a couple of days. When he got out he went around telling all his friends that this girl must really love him to toss his ass in jail, so he asks her to move in with him...and she does! can you believe it
6 months later his old man dies, and he finds out he's getting less than he figured for his inheritance so he breaks up with her, but they still get together once in a while as FF's. Then she's watching his bank accounts because she's got his email password, and saw who he's screwing on Facebook.

When relationships end, do people think they have nothing else to lose by doing crazy shit like this? and why does it allll end up on Facebook

BigV 10-09-2013 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by lumberjim (Post 878735)
More of them need fucking grammar lessons.

I just unfriended a former school mate because I had enough of her vague, unpunctuated posts about how pissed she was at 'you know who you are' about 'you know what you did', followed, or possibly preceded. ..I can never tell which. .. immediately by a 'If you love Jesus, share this stupid quote, or get cancer if you don't' post.

Retard.

BigV liked this post.

LOL

toranokaze 10-12-2013 12:31 PM

Facebook helps me keep in touch with tangential friends.

xoxoxoBruce 10-14-2013 11:15 AM

"Tangential friends"? Friends because they are on facebook? Without facebook They would not exist? They would not be friends? You would not care?

BigV 10-23-2013 09:59 PM

tangential because the sphere of his life only touches theirs at precisely one point, Facebook.

footfootfoot 11-14-2013 08:37 AM

Tan genitals? What did I miss?

Nirvana 11-14-2013 08:55 AM

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Tan genitals? What did I miss?
Blocking the sun? :blush:


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