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Big Sarge 01-16-2013 07:33 AM

Swords don't kill people
 
Swords, epees, and foils were made for one thing only - killing people. Do you realize how many people have been stabbed, sliced, or diced by these evil assault weapons?? Fencing is nothing but people training to kill someone.

I propose a ban on all blades greater than 3 inches. This is in line with concealed weapon laws already passed in many states

DanaC 01-16-2013 07:35 AM

We have quite strict laws about carrying knives, with heavy sentencing introduced a few years ago. The reason? We had a minor epidemic of knife crimes, particularly amongst the young.

infinite monkey 01-16-2013 07:42 AM

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Sarge, it's a slippery slope. Next thing only criminals will have Veg-o-matics®

Of course, Veg-o-matics® are really just your average killin' knife covered with a lot of plastic.

monster 01-16-2013 07:51 AM

Well that's just a mini wood-chipper really. Sure, it'd take a bit longer for them to die, but is that a good thing?

Spexxvet 01-16-2013 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Big Sarge (Post 848294)
Swords, epees, and foils were made for one thing only - killing people. Do you realize how many people have been stabbed, sliced, or diced by these evil assault weapons?? Fencing is nothing but people training to kill someone.

I propose a ban on all blades greater than 3 inches. This is in line with concealed weapon laws already passed in many states

When was the last time someone killed 26 people in a short time with a sword?

infinite monkey 01-16-2013 07:58 AM

The brave little tailor killed seven flies with just one stroke. Of a cloth, even. It CAN be done.

infinite monkey 01-16-2013 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by monster (Post 848306)
Well that's just a mini wood-chipper really. Sure, it'd take a bit longer for them to die, but is that a good thing?

Wood-chipper are just for getting rid of accomplices.

Trilby 01-16-2013 07:59 AM

swords are up close and personal, mothafkka. Cowards can shoot from far, far away. I'd prefer a sword death anyway. It would be more...romantic.

Trilby 01-16-2013 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by infinite monkey (Post 848316)
Wood-chipper are just for getting rid of accomplices.

Like Donnie.


(shut up, Donnie)

monster 01-16-2013 08:03 AM

you mean I should never have put M**c through that one? darn, I wondered why it's never been right since......

Griff 01-16-2013 08:08 AM

I'd like to see more swordplay, but inside the construct of "first blood". Someone gets cut, honor is served, participants shake hands, and get on with life.


infinite monkey 01-16-2013 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by monster (Post 848321)
you mean I should never have put M**c through that one? darn, I wondered why it's never been right since......

I have no idea what that is.

footfootfoot 01-16-2013 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by infinite monkey (Post 848329)
I have no idea what that is.

You need to brush up on your cryptanalysis. Here's a refresher,
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Herbert S. Zim, in his classic introductory cryptography text "Codes and Secret Writing", gives the English letter frequency sequence as "ETAON RISHD LFCMU GYPWB VKJXQ Z", the most common letter pairs as "TH HE AN RE ER IN ON AT ND ST ES EN OF TE ED OR TI HI AS TO", and the most common doubled letters as "LL EE SS OO TT FF RR NN PP CC".[1]

Nirvana 01-16-2013 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by DanaC (Post 848297)
We had a minor epidemic of knife crimes, particularly amongst the young.

Don't you think this is the same violence that would be happening if they had guns? So now take away their knives how will they kill each other now? :eyebrow:

infinite monkey 01-16-2013 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by footfootfoot
You need to brush up on your cryptanalysis. Here's a refresher

marc? murc? OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Merc. :lol2:

Funny effer.

OMG I totally had that book. It sounded familiar and I looked at it on Amazon and YEP...same book.

footfootfoot 01-16-2013 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by infinite monkey (Post 848353)
marc? murc? OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Merc. :lol2:

Funny effer.

OMG I totally had that book. It sounded familiar and I looked at it on Amazon and YEP...same book.

Me too. I loved it and wanted to get it for my son but couldn't remember the name. Thanks Wikipedia!

infinite monkey 01-16-2013 10:28 AM

I'm sure I still have it somewhere. Now I'm trying to remember the name of some kind of brain booster or brain teaser book I had (and still have...somewhere.) GAWD I loved me some Scholastic Book Club. Mom always had to make me scale back a few books, every order.

Pete Zicato 01-16-2013 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Spexxvet (Post 848311)
When was the last time someone killed 26 people in a short time with a sword?

Exactly.

Trilby 01-16-2013 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Spexxvet (Post 848311)
When was the last time someone killed 26 people in a short time with a sword?

I don't know but we could make it an Olympic sport.

Big Sarge 01-16-2013 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Spexxvet (Post 848311)
When was the last time someone killed 26 people in a short time with a sword?

It happens more often than you think. The liberal media never reports it because most swords are foreign made. They don't want to upset the global economy

ZenGum 01-16-2013 06:19 PM

I thought this was going to be the penis size thread.



I have used all three fencing weapons and it would be bloody hard to kill someone with one. The debate comes up occasionally in fencing clubs, the conclusion is usually that you'd do better to take of your mask and beat them with that.

Big Sarge 01-16-2013 09:37 PM

This man stabbed a total of 26 people. 23 were elementary school kids. We have to do something about these horrible assault knives!! Do you think there is anyway they could make a knife that couldn't stab more than 10 times??

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/1...n_2329511.html

ZenGum 01-16-2013 09:47 PM

But your thread title was correct, though. Swords/knives don't kill people. Well, not very effectively. All 26 lived.

Guy needs to work on his action.

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Then, dozens of students flee out of the gate before several men armed with brooms walk in. The man in blue later is seen being chased out of the school.
Brooms, people, ASSAULT BROOMS! They are bristling with danger. They NEVER need reloading.

Pro-tip: Don't bring a knife to a broom fight.

jimhelm 01-16-2013 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Spexxvet (Post 848311)
When was the last time someone killed 26 people in a short time with a sword?



I think I counted 24 or 25... and a bouquet of flowers....

toranokaze 01-17-2013 01:04 AM

With a light blade I can easily kill 20 ish people , and children would not be physical hard. The same is true for gas or cars or bleach, ect.
It is not ability that stops but the fact that
IT IS FUCKING SUPREME EVIL
UNFORGIVABLE FUCKING EVIL

Spexxvet 01-17-2013 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Big Sarge (Post 848424)
It happens more often than you think. The liberal media never reports it because most swords are foreign made. They don't want to upset the global economy

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Originally Posted by Big Sarge (Post 848588)
This man stabbed a total of 26 people. 23 were elementary school kids. We have to do something about these horrible assault knives!! Do you think there is anyway they could make a knife that couldn't stab more than 10 times??

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/1...n_2329511.html

Huffington Post is liberal news media, so you're wrong.

As Dr. Zen said, no one was killed.

footfootfoot 01-17-2013 11:19 AM

If you use children as weapons you can increase your odds of survival
http://www.howmanyfiveyearoldscouldyoutakeinafight.com/

BigV 01-17-2013 11:55 AM

32 five year olds. Not bad for an old guy (thanks for the tip).

Sadly, I die on the moon; 0% chance of survival when marooned 200 miles from base.

I expected better since I'm 86% Geek.

jimhelm 01-17-2013 12:04 PM

Tor is correct. Take guns away, a bad guy will use a bomb. Or an airplane.

Gravdigr 01-17-2013 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by toranokaze (Post 848603)
...The same is true for...or cars...

O. M. G. !

I hadn't even thought of the cars...How many young lives have been snuffed out...by cars.

We simply must have armed guards in every car.

We simply must have car-proof guards on the roofs of all skyscrapers.

Cars that can go for hundreds of miles on just one high-capacity tank of fuel?

I propose strict fuel tank limits.

We need to outlaw high-capacity fuel tanks. NOW!

Why would anyone need to go more than ten miles?

Only to kill someone. Only to kill someone.

footfootfoot 01-17-2013 02:14 PM

Water. People choke to death and drown in water every day. Throw all your guns into the water!!!

ZenGum 01-17-2013 06:12 PM

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Cars that can go for hundreds of miles on just one high-capacity tank of fuel?

I propose strict fuel tank limits.

We need to outlaw high-capacity fuel tanks. NOW!
We actually just had a high speed chase that ended peacefully after 10 minutes when the teenage dickhead in the Nissan Skyline ... ran out of fuel. :lol:

Spexxvet 01-18-2013 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Gravdigr (Post 848702)
O. M. G. !

I hadn't even thought of the cars...How many young lives have been snuffed out...by cars.

We simply must have armed guards in every car.

We simply must have car-proof guards on the roofs of all skyscrapers.

Cars that can go for hundreds of miles on just one high-capacity tank of fuel?

I propose strict fuel tank limits.

We need to outlaw high-capacity fuel tanks. NOW!

Why would anyone need to go more than ten miles?

Only to kill someone. Only to kill someone.

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Originally Posted by footfootfoot (Post 848717)
Water. People choke to death and drown in water every day. Throw all your guns into the water!!!

What's your proposal to reduce mass shootings?

It sounds as though your perspective is "since people's deaths result from cars and water, we just have to accept mass shootings".

footfootfoot 01-18-2013 08:50 AM

No. My perspective is to be a smartass every chance I get. Please don't be sincere with me.

I really don't see gun control as limiting mass shootings. There is no "Sound bite" way to address what is essentially a cultural problem.

classicman 01-18-2013 11:52 PM

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ZenGum 01-19-2013 12:32 AM

Since this thread is clearly no place for even semi-serious debate...


Guns don't kill people, people kill people.

So why do they always give guns to people when they go off to war? Why not just send the people, and save money on the guns?

sexobon 01-19-2013 12:46 AM

Conversely, if guns kill people, why not just send the guns and let the people stay to enjoy other pursuits?

Big Sarge 01-19-2013 01:30 AM

I have solved the mass shooting problems. We can limit the gathering of people to no more than 10 at any location to include schools, churches, malls, .etc

I think I deserve the Nobel Peace Prize for this

ZenGum 01-19-2013 01:44 AM

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Originally Posted by sexobon (Post 849034)
Conversely, if guns kill people, why not just send the guns and let the people stay to enjoy other pursuits?

Drones, sir. Then armed autonomous drones. Until they turn against us. Then it will turn out that guns don't kill people, and people don't kill people, giant laser-wielding rocket-shooting transforming battlebots kill people.

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Originally Posted by Big Sarge (Post 849036)
I have solved the mass shooting problems. We can limit the gathering of people to no more than 10 at any location to include schools, churches, malls, .etc

I think I deserve the Nobel Peace Prize for this

Brilliant, but the penalty for exceeding the 10-person limit will have to be very very severe for the proposal to work. The only option is summary execution by firing squad. Fortunately, this will keep employed all the gun and ammunition manufacturers who would otherwise end up unemployed, causing them to go on gun rampages ...

sexobon 01-19-2013 01:57 AM

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Originally Posted by ZenGum (Post 849039)
Drones, sir. Then armed autonomous drones. Until they turn against us. Then it will turn out that guns don't kill people, and people don't kill people, giant laser-wielding rocket-shooting transforming battlebots kill people.

Of course, it's so simple a child could see it, suicidal programmers kill people.

ZenGum 01-19-2013 01:58 AM

I guess that proves programmers aren't people, then, doesn't it? :lol:

DanaC 01-19-2013 04:21 AM

Programmers arent people, they're corporations, silly.

ZenGum 01-19-2013 05:43 AM

Thus proving that corporations aren't people!


Holy shit, we did it.

DanaC 01-19-2013 05:47 AM

Whoomph! We did at that :P

Trilby 01-19-2013 07:45 AM

of course it's people who kill people.

Now let's talk about the 560 billion (or is it trillion?) we've spent "rebuilding" the shithole that is, and will remain, Afghanistan. Wouldn't that be better spent on the crazies here?

just a random thought.

toranokaze 01-19-2013 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Gravdigr (Post 848702)
O. M. G. !

I hadn't even thought of the cars...How many young lives have been snuffed out...by cars.

We simply must have armed guards in every car.

We simply must have car-proof guards on the roofs of all skyscrapers.

Cars that can go for hundreds of miles on just one high-capacity tank of fuel?

I propose strict fuel tank limits.

We need to outlaw high-capacity fuel tanks. NOW!

Why would anyone need to go more than ten miles?

Only to kill someone. Only to kill someone.


More than three 9/11 every year die from cars , and we are doing piss about it

Trilby 01-19-2013 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by toranokaze (Post 849082)
More than three 9/11 every year die from cars , and we are doing piss about it

we addressed the drunk driving laws.

toranokaze 01-19-2013 08:56 AM

That has slowed the issue but there is still slaughter on the highway and we seem to be blind to these deaths, whom are mostly young . The Highway system kills more people than guns, it kills move people than cigarettes, and we still have 70 mph roads and cars that go 120mph.


In total ford has killed more children than S&W ever will

Pico and ME 01-19-2013 08:57 AM

AND...you have to have to be insured and licensed to own and operate that weapon.

eta...this was to be an adjunct to Tril's post, not tor's. So it sounds like Im saying that doing so hasnt changed anything with cars so why would it change for guns. But what I wanted it to sound like is..why is there a system of accountablility for a cars but not guns?

Griff 01-19-2013 09:05 AM

I've got young drivers in my house. PA has upped the requirements for hours spent driving with a more experienced person riding shotgun. People still drive for shit though.

footfootfoot 01-19-2013 12:47 PM

As a rabid gun owner myself, I'm all for a system like licensing and or registering firearms in a manner similar to vehicles. Not yearly, but once per firearm and then have a title that would need to be presented to sell or transfer.

I draw the line at insurance.

Pete Zicato 01-19-2013 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Griff (Post 849091)
People still drive for shit though.

It's important to remember that half the people out there are below average. It explains so much.

footfootfoot 01-19-2013 12:51 PM

Not to mention that nearly 1/3 of all drivers on the roads are caused by accidents.

Pete Zicato 01-19-2013 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by footfootfoot (Post 849124)
Not to mention that nearly 1/3 of all drivers on the roads are caused by accidents.

•snort•

Griff 01-19-2013 01:22 PM

Nicely played sir, nicely played.

ZenGum 01-19-2013 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete Zicato (Post 849120)
It's important to remember that half the people out there are below average. It explains so much.

Not so, sir. Half the people are below median.
I'm not sure how to measure driving skill, but when it comes to personal wealth, something like 99% are below (mean) average.
If that translates to driving skill, no wonder there's so many crashes.

Big Sarge 01-19-2013 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by footfootfoot (Post 849118)
As a rabid gun owner myself, I'm all for a system like licensing and or registering firearms in a manner similar to vehicles. Not yearly, but once per firearm and then have a title that would need to be presented to sell or transfer.

I draw the line at insurance.

Wasn't licensing and registration of all firearms mandated by Stalin and Hitler? This later led to confiscations. Anyway it goes, good luck trying to figure out how many I have and where they all are.

DanaC 01-19-2013 06:21 PM

Oh puhlease. Stalin and Hitler. For goodness sake .

Big Sarge 01-19-2013 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by DanaC (Post 849166)
Oh puhlease. Stalin and Hitler. For goodness sake .

I'm sure many Jews expressed your thoughts in the early 20th Century. Why does it matter to you? You have already lost your rights.

As far as the numerous references to required licensure and insurance for automobiles, most of you are clueless. Operating a motor vehicle on public roads is a privilige, not a right. This is how the implied consent laws are used. Legally, you don't have to have a license or insurance to operate a motor vehicle on private property.

My firearms are on private property. I hunt on private property. Why should I have to license them? The motor vehicle laws actually set a precedent. Plus, I haven't even touched on trucks or vehicles identified for agricultural use and how they can be operated on public roads without a license.

So if you don't have a firearm or ever even owned a firearm, you don't have a dog in this hunt. I don't harangue anyone on here about their usage of marijuana. Marijuana has led to the violence of MS 13 and the Mexican drug cartels.

Pete Zicato 01-19-2013 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by ZenGum (Post 849156)
Not so, sir. Half the people are below median.

It doesn't have the same ring when you put it that way. Besides, it's considered impolite to respond to full-on snark with logic.


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