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Ibby 11-06-2012 10:13 PM

FOUR MORE YEARS
 
11:12 - THE RACE IS CALLED.

FOUR

MORE

YEARS

BigV 11-06-2012 10:24 PM

Congratulations America!

SamIam 11-06-2012 10:26 PM

OMG! Is it true? Please, please, please let it be true!

Happy Monkey 11-06-2012 10:27 PM

:D

infinite monkey 11-06-2012 10:30 PM

Are we sure? I'm still nervous.

Happy Monkey 11-06-2012 10:34 PM

There'll be recounts, I'm sure.

SamIam 11-06-2012 10:35 PM

Jon Stewart just announced it on Comedy Central. It MUST be true! Yes! Yes! Yes! ~ Does happy little Snoopy dance around the apartment ~

BigV 11-06-2012 10:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Happy Monkey (Post 837789)
There'll be recounts, I'm sure.

understatement of the night.

Ibby 11-06-2012 10:37 PM

NBC News, Fox News, CNN and Current have all called it for Obama. That sounds decisive enough to me.

infinite monkey 11-06-2012 10:41 PM

Whew. Well done, America.

BigV 11-06-2012 11:00 PM

fucking A.

Aliantha 11-06-2012 11:11 PM

Yeah, good job USA. I can't imagine life under Mr Romney. Even though many may not fully comprehend what a huge difference it would make to the rest of the world, there are plenty of us who do.

BigV 11-06-2012 11:35 PM

heh.

You're welcome. I just saw your rfn pic,.... we're even.

Big Sarge 11-07-2012 02:40 AM

sigh, we are doomed

Ibby 11-07-2012 03:05 AM

:rolleyes:

Ibby 11-07-2012 03:14 AM

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Honestly, this election marks a new mandate for liberalism, even if the House is still Republican.

-Illinois ousted Joe Walsh and put one of the most badass women in his place.
-Hawaii elected the first asian american female senator.
-Texas elected a pansexual WOC into the house
-Puerto Rico is on its way to statehood
-Todd Akin's out
-Scott Brown's out.
-Obama's been re-elected.
-Colorado and Washington legalized marijuana
-Michelle Bachmann could very well be ousted tonight
-Multiple states have approved same sex marriage

We are increasingly no longer a center-right nation. We're a center-left nation with only the rural midwest and the south skewing radically rightward.

Attachment 41582

...And things look pretty decent for Obama in Florida. This is basically a SWEEP. North Carolina was the only swing state he lost.

Crushing, absolutely crushing, defeat for increasingly radical wingnut conservatism.

Sheldonrs 11-07-2012 05:13 AM

I am so happy Obama won! But all the hate and fear spread by the far right is going to drive some of their lunatic fringers to act on their hate and fear.

Griff 11-07-2012 05:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ibby (Post 837816)
Honestly, this election marks a new mandate for liberalism, even if the House is still Republican.

Nah, Obama was the more centrist, he won. Mitt lost because he was disconnected from reality, said crazy shit, and didn't seem trust-worthy. If the GOP figures out how to put up middle right candidates (Huntsman) they'll get their mojo back. I'm guessing they'll double down on crazy in four years, so if Hillary continues to do a nice job...

Anyway, I'm not so much happy that Obama won as Mitt lost. Unfortunately its ideology first for the House Republicans so expect a bumpy ride.

Adak 11-07-2012 06:26 AM

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The President may need Romney's prayers. I expect the investigation into the abandonment of our Ambassador to be killed by the terrorists, (that Obama refers to as "folks"), can now begin.

First things first, however. Obama needs to take another world-wide tour, so he can apologize for our freedoms and success, all over again.
Attachment 41584


It will be interesting to see how Obamacare shakes out in the next four years.

The second term for a President is always tougher than their first term. Other party members give less support, since the current President can't run again - that leaves other Democrats to be more independent of the President's wishes.

No one is going to support anymore 1 Trillion+ deficit years from Obama, so I don't know what he's going to do:

1) Blame Bush (worked before!)
2) Blame the Republicans (they won't let him do his crazy shit, anymore)
3) Blame the Rich
4) Blame the Whites
5) Blame the Dog (I can't pass a budget in the last few year, because the dog keeps eating it!).

Obama has no plans for the economy. I wonder if the American economy can overcome that handicap or not, and return us to prosperity, anyway?

DanaC 11-07-2012 06:55 AM

*blinks*

1. Blame Bush: yep, given his administration's role in driving America into the worst financial trouble since the Great Depression.

It takes more than 4 years to fix something so broken.

2. Blame the Republicans (they won't let him do his crazy shit, anymore): again, seems fair so far. The Republicans made pledges on day 1 of Obama's presidency that they would ensure he only got one term. Their method for ensuring this was to cripple his efforts at every stage, blocking actions that would potentially help the economy, wilfully driving the nation's finances off a fucking cliff, because anything, up to and including total financial meltdown and a bankrupt state is better than another four years of Obama.

3.Blame the Rich: he didn;t blame 'the rich', he placed some thoroughly warranted blame on the financial industry and irresponsible corporations.

4. Blame the whites: now see that's bollocks. It's also racist claptrap.

5. Blame the dog: yeah, maybe.

richlevy 11-07-2012 06:57 AM

There's no party like a Democratic Party.

:celebrat::us:

I'd say "Sorry, Sarge", but I'd be lying if I did!

BTW, now that Romney lost, will Billy Graham put Mormonism back on the 'cult' list?

infinite monkey 11-07-2012 07:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adak (Post 837823)
The President may need Romney's prayers. I expect the investigation into the abandonment of our Ambassador to be killed by the terrorists, (that Obama refers to as "folks"), can now begin.

First things first, however. Obama needs to take another world-wide tour, so he can apologize for our freedoms and success, all over again.
Attachment 41584


It will be interesting to see how Obamacare shakes out in the next four years.

The second term for a President is always tougher than their first term. Other party members give less support, since the current President can't run again - that leaves other Democrats to be more independent of the President's wishes.

No one is going to support anymore 1 Trillion+ deficit years from Obama, so I don't know what he's going to do:

1) Blame Bush (worked before!)
2) Blame the Republicans (they won't let him do his crazy shit, anymore)
3) Blame the Rich
4) Blame the Whites
5) Blame the Dog (I can't pass a budget in the last few year, because the dog keeps eating it!).

Obama has no plans for the economy. I wonder if the American economy can overcome that handicap or not, and return us to prosperity, anyway?

:lol:

Boy's got a personality like his grapes: sour, that is. /foghornleghorn

Why DO conservatives whine so much? :rolleyes:

infinite monkey 11-07-2012 07:30 AM

Oh oh way to go Ohio!

I can't believe we pulled it off! A cow orker worked for a couple months on the campaign. We were planning to move to his friend's place in Canada if need be.

Oh wait. I'm a democrat and we won. I must go tell him we don't have to work anymore...we can just live off our gubmint now. :D

infinite monkey 11-07-2012 07:38 AM

After I invoked Foghorn Leghorn this came up on the cookies:

"Say yur prayers, yuh flea-pickin' varmint!"
- Yosemite Sam

glatt 11-07-2012 07:42 AM

I'm pleased that Obama won, and doubly pleased that he won the popular vote too. But I think it's a mistake to assume there is a liberal mandate. The vote nationwide is apparently 50.1% to 48.4%. That's close, and is not a mandate.

But it's clear that there is some serious work ahead with the fiscal cliff fast approaching, and both parties need to work together. That's something all Americans want government to do. There's going to have to be some compromises from both sides to get this done. And I'm mostly looking at the Republicans, because they have been unwilling to compromise at all on anything.

infinite monkey 11-07-2012 07:44 AM

Oh, I know the realities. Boehner ran uncontested, but I still didn't vote for him.

I just want to be happy for this one day.

glatt 11-07-2012 07:46 AM

You should be happy. It's a great day!

piercehawkeye45 11-07-2012 08:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Griff (Post 837822)
Nah, Obama was the more centrist, he won. Mitt lost because he was disconnected from reality, said crazy shit, and didn't seem trust-worthy. If the GOP figures out how to put up middle right candidates (Huntsman) they'll get their mojo back. I'm guessing they'll double down on crazy in four years, so if Hillary continues to do a nice job...

Anyway, I'm not so much happy that Obama won as Mitt lost. Unfortunately its ideology first for the House Republicans so expect a bumpy ride.

Quote:

Originally Posted by glatt
I'm pleased that Obama won, and doubly pleased that he won the popular vote too. But I think it's a mistake to assume there is a liberal mandate. The vote nationwide is apparently 50.1% to 48.4%. That's close, and is not a mandate.

But it's clear that there is some serious work ahead with the fiscal cliff fast approaching, and both parties need to work together. That's something all Americans want government to do. There's going to have to be some compromises from both sides to get this done. And I'm mostly looking at the Republicans, because they have been unwilling to compromise at all on anything.

Agreed.

It will be very interesting to see what Republicans do from here. It seems that half the party will want to become more moderate (Huntsman, Christie, etc.) while the other half will want to double down and head further to the right. Biden mentioned earlier that he knows of at least 10 Republicans that will be willing to work with a second term Obama.

An Obama's second term now forces these two factions fight it out since they cannot unite against him. Hopefully the moderates will win but I could see the crazies controlling for another 2-8 years depending on how external factors play out. This election was Republicans to lose and their bets were completely wrong. Hopefully they will wake up realize that their path will only cause Democrats to get stronger and stronger solely due to demographics


Socially liberal and economically centrist is the politics of the future. The quicker Republicans can jump on board that train the better for them and the country.

jimhelm 11-07-2012 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigV (Post 837784)
Congratulations America!

ok, change your fucking signature now

Pete Zicato 11-07-2012 08:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by infinite monkey (Post 837832)
Why DO conservatives whine so much? :rolleyes:

It goes so well with the Republican cheese. :D

infinite monkey 11-07-2012 08:57 AM

You mean like Eddie Munster? :lol:

That's a gouda one! Edam up!

henry quirk 11-07-2012 09:23 AM

FROM: THE *RESIDENT ANARCHISTIC SOCIOPATH
 
To: Democrats

You wanted him (again!); you got him (good luck with that!).


To: Republicans

Pick 'better' next time (good luck with that!).


To: Third Party Folks

Trumped by one of the Big Two (again!)...you're fucked (good luck with that!).

*shrug*














*for me: business as usual (no luck needed).

Lamplighter 11-07-2012 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimhelm (Post 837850)
ok, change your fucking signature now

Why ? It is still raining in PDX and soup is a favorite kind of lunch

Nothing else has changed.

BigV 11-07-2012 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimhelm (Post 837850)
ok, change your fucking signature now

You want the OBAMA 2012 one back? That surprises me.

I could go with Clinton/Huntsman 2016 if you like.

I like my fucking signature, so, eat a dick.

Spexxvet 11-07-2012 09:59 AM

To Republicans: America has spoken. You failed in your goal to make Obama a one term president. Now it's time to do your fucking job.

infinite monkey 11-07-2012 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spexxvet (Post 837870)
To Republicans: America has spoken. You failed in your goal to make Obama a one term president. Now it's time to do your fucking job.

Seriously. Boehner? Less crying, more working to do good things for the people? mmmm'K?

Trilby 11-07-2012 10:15 AM

My sister lives in Boehner country. They're all weirdly stepford wife-ish soccer moms who, apparently, bake a lot and wear three piece outfits for mopping their already clean floors (just like the adverts!)

My sister is not one of them. She stays very, very quiet when they discuss their right-wing conservative views.

Cyber Wolf 11-07-2012 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spexxvet (Post 837870)
To Republicans: America has spoken. You failed in your goal to make Obama a one term president. Now it's time to do your fucking job.

Noooooo! Now they have to do four years of posturing, resume building and 'me-more-Republican-than-him'ing to prepare for 2016, since it'll be between two 'fresh candidates'.

Get back to actual work? Ain't nobody got time for that!

tw 11-07-2012 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adak (Post 837823)
First things first, however. Obama needs to take another world-wide tour, so he can apologize for our freedoms and success, all over again.

You are emotional. Even forget second grade science concepts necessary to have a fact. Your knowledge is based only in hearsay and what Limbaugh, et al says. Even a simple science concept about bread breeding maggots escapes your grasp due to so much emotion.

A logical reply would say why Romney lost. Only the logical can discuss honestly. But that means, for example, trying to explain why Romney, who once called himself more liberal than Kennedy, is suddenly an extreme right wing conservative. Its called eating crow. To discuss Romney's problem means discussing why you were so deceived by rhetoric. It requires a logical post; not more emotional tirades.

You cannot face facts. So you post sour grapes. Post emotion. Since emotion and subjective claims are your reasoning.

Harm to America was created by extremist rhetoric (ie tax cuts, mythical WMDs, trickle down economics, no grasp of basic military doctrine, massive loss of respect for America from 2000 to 2008, hatred of solutions that saved the America economy, etc). All that and more is slowly improving. As defined by lessons from history and explained by the logical and educated. It will take ten years to undo disasters created in 2000 through 2008. America is getting better despite wacko extremists who said, "We want America to fail."

Extremists are now waiting for Limbaugh, et al to tell them what to think. Four years ago, even Bohemer's speech defined harm America so that Obama would only be a one term president. Limbaugh openly said he wanted *America* to fail. Having done so much to harm America, now what will extremists advocate?

Well, the question can only be asked using logic. Same logic that says why Romney lost would predict what extremist will do next. Where is America going? Sour grapes are from fools who got us in this mess (unwinnable wars, recession, destruction to science, massive job loss, increasing income disparity, etc). How much more harm will extremists do to America in the name of political rhetoric and Limbaugh lies? What will be their next strategy to make America fail? Or will their strategy be something different this time?

Either one can post sour grapes and emotion. Or one can be honest. Say why Romney lost and what extremists will advocate next. Clearly "We want America to fail" does not work.

tw 11-07-2012 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trilby (Post 837874)
My sister lives in Boehner country. They're all weirdly stepford wife-ish soccer moms ...

Rush Limbaugh and the Stephord Wifes? A sequeal featuring with a blind man popping pills.

jimhelm 11-07-2012 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigV (Post 837867)
You want the OBAMA 2012 one back? That surprises me.

I could go with Clinton/Huntsman 2016 if you like.

I like my fucking signature, so, eat a dick.

when I posted that, it was still the Obama in 2012 in huge blue letters. your current sig is fine and dandy. dick not eaten

infinite monkey 11-07-2012 11:24 AM

bzzzzt whirrrrr beeeep

dick-eating averted. I repeat: dick-eating averted

whirrrrr beeeppppp

glatt 11-07-2012 11:25 AM

that was a close one.

BigV 11-07-2012 01:13 PM

tease.

Adak 11-07-2012 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by infinite monkey (Post 837832)
:lol:

Boy's got a personality like his grapes: sour, that is. /foghornleghorn

Why DO conservatives whine so much? :rolleyes:

No whine, just aware that Obama will have a VERY tough 4 years now. They'll make his first 4 years seem like a cakewalk, in comparison.

1) He can't keep spending money we don't have. Even his own party won't support more radical spending.

2) He's alienated the Republicans - and their party's base, quite a bit. I really don't think he'll get stink for cooperation with ANYTHING, now.

The campaign was long, and instead of focusing on his own policies for the future, (because he has few, and no good ones), he spent a lot of time with smear type attacks on Romney. His Justice Department has filed suit against every single state that tried to pass a reasonable voter ID law. He has cut back on allowing drilling for oil on Federal land which has area's for that, and last but not least, he took 700+million from Medicare (which part I'm not sure of), to fund Obamacare. If that doesn't work out well, the seniors will be in an uproar!

What else could Obama do? But that won't set him up for easy reconciliation with either Republicans or conservatives in general.

4) He'll have to answer an investigation into the abandonment of Ambassador Stevens and crew, in Benghazi. He may even face an impeachment hearing over that, for his failure to act, when he so obviously could have.

As well as he has been treated by the media (better than any Politician I can recall), if the word gets circulated that he was a coward and afraid to defend Stevens for some political reason, he may find the public hating the coward's guts.

henry quirk 11-07-2012 01:40 PM

"Now it's time to do your fucking job."
 
No...for Christ's Sake...please (all elected and appointed, on all levels), keep doin' exactly what you've all been doin' (next to nuthin') and leave me be!

Stay stymied...stay hobbled...stay divided...stay partisan.

#

"...be honest. Say why Romney lost..."

'Cause his brand of communitarianism wasn't as attractive to 'the people' as Obama's.

infinite monkey 11-07-2012 01:47 PM

To Adak and henry:

:blah:













:lol:

infinite monkey 11-07-2012 01:50 PM

Listen, all y'all should move out of the country if you hate it so much. THIS IS AMURCA! LOVE IT OR LEAVE IT.

*snort*

henry quirk 11-07-2012 01:50 PM

Why do you lump me in with Adak?

We -- he and me -- are not in the same camp at all.

infinite monkey 11-07-2012 01:52 PM

Because I am equally exhausted by his gloom and doom and your nay-saying. ;)

Adak 11-07-2012 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by infinite monkey (Post 837947)
Because I am equally exhausted by his gloom and doom and your nay-saying. ;)

Do you honestly believe that Obama will now be able to productively work with both parties? :p: :rolleyes:

Not a chance! He will be able to work productively with SOME of the members of his own party, and that's it.

henry quirk 11-07-2012 01:58 PM

"I am equally exhausted..."
 
I see.

That I'm exhausted by 'the people's' slavish devotion (addiction) to the ‘virtues’ and 'benefits' of 'governance', well, I guess I'll just eat that.

'nuff said.

Adak 11-07-2012 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by infinite monkey (Post 837943)
To Adak and henry:

:blah:



<Obama's good ideas for America, are in here, in bold blue letters! >









:lol:


Spexxvet 11-07-2012 02:02 PM

They who get the majority of (electoral) votes rule. That's the way a republic works.

Cyber Wolf 11-07-2012 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adak (Post 837948)
Do you honestly believe that Obama will now be able to productively work with both parties? :p: :rolleyes:

Not a chance! He will be able to work productively with SOME of the members of his own party, and that's it.

Sure, if the Republicans will get over themselves like both Christie and Bloomberg did to get done what needed to be done.

But then again, Christie has been all but abandoned by his own party. He's better off for it.

Stormieweather 11-07-2012 03:23 PM

Obama can work just as well with Congress and House as Romney could have if he'd been elected. It all depends on whether the OTHER participants wish to work towards a solution instead of behave like a spoiled toddlers.

BigV 11-07-2012 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adak
Quote:

Originally Posted by infinite monkey
To Adak and henry:

:blah:







<Obama's good ideas for America, are in here, in bold blue letters! >






:lol:


So clever.

Remember how upset you were when in the third debate Obama replied to Romney's observations of our naval strength? You're playing with the same fire here. Your misquoting here for humorous effect opens you up to the same treatment; you probably won't like it. But more importantly, it is another example of your willingness to just make shit up whenever it suits you, facts be damned. Don't be upset when adults who are talking about real issues ignore or reprimand you for childish interruptions like this.

infinite monkey 11-07-2012 05:07 PM

In all fairness i started it.

I'm no debator. I'm just a mouthy girl who got too excited about the election.

Sorry. :(

BigV 11-07-2012 05:43 PM

fine, fine. but to be fair, I didn't see you misquote Adak or henry. I didn't see you just make shit up, like I have seen from Adak many times. I'm putting him on notice that unless he acts seriously in serious discussions, I'm going to treat his input as unfunny comic relief.

His demonstrated willingness to use dramatic hyperbole as fact, and not just breaking news items, subjects that are verifiable, or should be verifiable in a journalistic sense. For me, he has to show his work or be disregarded.

Adak 11-07-2012 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigV (Post 837996)
So clever.

Remember how upset you were when in the third debate Obama replied to Romney's observations of our naval strength? You're playing with the same fire here. Your misquoting here for humorous effect opens you up to the same treatment; you probably won't like it. But more importantly, it is another example of your willingness to just make shit up whenever it suits you, facts be damned. Don't be upset when adults who are talking about real issues ignore or reprimand you for childish interruptions like this.

When you wake up enough to grasp the concept that a naval vessel in the Pacific, is useless for an immediate problem in the Mediterranean, then you'll grasp what I was referring to about Obama cutting down the number of naval ships we have.

Until then, it will fly right over your head.

I'm sure you could name, five (just five) specific plans that Obama will be implementing in this next term, surely?

Perhaps because Obama NEVER NAMED five specific plans for his second term, throughout his campaign.


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