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Flint 01-17-2012 11:57 PM

SPEAK UP AND OPPOSE PIPA/SOPA !!!
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page
Wikipedia main page, enter your zipcode, it links to email contact for your congressmen / representatives.

https://www.usps.com/
US Postal service website can provide your zipcode+4, if required.

This is what I sent to all concerned:

Quote:

I strongly oppose the proposed legislation known as PROTECT IP Act (PIPA) / Stop Online Piracy Act (SOPA). If you support this legislation you will never again have my vote.

Passage of this legislation would be substantively destructive to the fundamental qualities of a modern, democratic society. The mechanisms by which this legislation attempts to accomplish its goals are ill-conceived and unsustainable. Supporting this legislation would put you on the wrong side of a extraordinarily momentous event in human history. Don’t make that mistake. Oppose PROTECT IP Act (PIPA) / Stop Online Piracy Act (SOPA).
Anyone who agrees with what I said has my permission to copy/paste my message, if that encourages them to SEND AN EMAIL.


https://www.google.com/landing/takeaction/
Google's main page links to this online PIPA/SOPA petition.

Quote:

Tell Congress: Please don't censor the web!

TheMercenary 01-18-2012 07:11 AM

Love Google's mini protest.

glatt 01-18-2012 07:41 AM

Congress is transparently corrupt. They are pushing this legislation through only because their financial contributors have asked them to. It's legal bribery.

And it's bipartisan. Yay! :yelsick:

glatt 01-18-2012 07:52 AM

I contacted my representative and one senator, but now I'm having trouble loading the form for my second senator. I wonder if they are experiencing a heavy volume today.

monster 01-18-2012 07:57 AM

For once the online petitions didn't ask me to declare that i'm a registered voter.

BigV 01-18-2012 12:44 PM

Fucking A.

This is done.

kerosene 01-18-2012 12:50 PM

Did this yesterday. A very important issue, no matter which side of the political spectrum you sit on.

Too bad this can't go through the teenager facebook channels like Ali's friend's contest did.

classicman 01-18-2012 01:53 PM

It is Kero. It started last night and I've seen a whole bunch of my friends and their friends ... its happening.

classicman 01-18-2012 02:28 PM

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piercehawkeye45 01-18-2012 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by classicman (Post 788971)
It is Kero. It started last night and I've seen a whole bunch of my friends and their friends ... its happening.

Same here. Besides the recent Packer loss, my facebook news feed hasn't blown up on a single issue like this for a while.

kerosene 01-18-2012 05:48 PM

Ah. I quit FB, so I wasn't aware it has gone that viral.

tw 01-18-2012 07:52 PM

The industry ignored the problem for years. Did virtually nothing to protect themselves. Law enforcement and other techniques to avert the problem are under utilized or sometimes ignored. So they want other innocent third parties to protect them.

A four man operation in St Petersburg Russia has routinely used internet scams (especially on Facebook) to steal $millions for consumer accounts. These four men are well known by name. The NY Times even published them. For years, Facebook has had a picture of one on their walls. Their St Petersburg office is described by the NY Times. These guys will even spend four months on vacations in places such as the south of France. And nothing happens to them. Where are routine solutions such as law enforcement?

These guys operate for the same reason why Hollywood would rather have third parties protect them.

Music industry's solution to piracy was to ignore it. To maintain an obsolete business model that only encouraged Napster. Even Apple had to drag this industry, kicking and screaming, into the new world.

What do badly managed industries do? What the American tire industry did to keep the radial tire out of America for almost 30 years. Run to government for protection for so long that most formally American tire manufacturers had to be sold to foreigners.

infinite monkey 01-18-2012 08:19 PM

I emailed the Speaker of the House, who happens to be my congressman.

Flint 01-18-2012 09:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigV (Post 788939)
Fucking A.

This is done.

If I may, quote you, quoting me:

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigV
Quote:

Originally Posted by Flint
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Finally, we should always fight, tooth and nail, against those who wish us to surrender to ignorance. As ignorant and insignificant as we are (and we most certainly are, to a degree our minds are incapable of comprehending) we have carved out a small niche of organized data, the qualities of which need constant protection from deliberate obfuscation. Knowledge is our most valuable resource, and attacks upon it are the most heinous crime.


From the Hall of Fame. I thought of this last night. I find that it applies.

BigV 01-19-2012 12:30 PM

You may. That's why it's there, to *preserve* such things. You were right when you said it the first time, I was right to note it and record it, and you were right to repeat it.

Good job.

Flint 01-19-2012 01:09 PM

We rock. Anybody else is free to get in on this...

glatt 01-19-2012 01:35 PM

Well, flint is a type of rock...

Lamplighter 01-19-2012 03:55 PM

NY Times
By BEN SISARIO
Published: January 19, 2012

Indictment Charges Megaupload Site With Piracy
Quote:

According to a grand jury indictment, Megaupload
— one of the most popular “locker” services on the Internet,
which lets users anonymously transfer large files
— generated $175 million in income for its operators through subscription fees and advertising,
while causing $500 million in damages to copyright holders.

Four of the seven people, including the site’s founder Kim Dotcom, born Kim Schmitz,
have been arrested in New Zealand, the Justice Department and Federal Bureau of Investigation
said on Thursday; the three others remain at large.
The seven — who a grand jury indictment calls part of a “Mega Conspiracy” —
have been charged with five counts of copyright infringement and conspiracy, the authorities said.<snip>

The indictment was handed down by a grand jury in Virginia two weeks ago,
but was unsealed on Thursday, and stems from a federal investigation that began two years ago.<snip>

Ira P. Rothken, a lawyer for Megaupload, said in a phone interview on Thursday afternoon
that he had not yet seen the indictment, but he added: “Clearly we have due process concerns.
This was done without a hearing.”

BigV 01-19-2012 05:36 PM

huh.. looks like prosecution of pirates DOESN'T require sopa/pipa after all.

Now. Go prove your case in court.

glatt 01-20-2012 07:41 AM

Quote:

generated $175 million in income for its operators through subscription fees and advertising,
while causing $500 million in damages to copyright holders.
The $175M number sounds like it's a real number that investigators got by actually looking at, you know, evidence. The $500M number sound like it was pulled out of someone's ass. Benford's law says that it's completely bullshit. Benford's law says that the $175M number is real.

ZenGum 01-20-2012 11:47 PM

Hey we're not opposing Pippa's butt, are we?

'cause I'm not against that. At least, not in the way I'd like to be.

Clodfobble 01-21-2012 01:55 PM

No no Zen, Pipa/Sopa. They just don' wanna Pippa to ever soapa her butt.

Gravdigr 01-21-2012 03:38 PM

1 Attachment(s)
I did not test this for truthiness, but, it's chock full of ironicalness.

Attachment 36880

classicman 01-21-2012 03:40 PM

hahahahaha

tw 01-21-2012 09:11 PM

If Lamar Smith and Dick Cheney went hunting, then who would win?

ZenGum 01-22-2012 12:20 AM

The American People!

xoxoxoBruce 01-22-2012 11:39 PM

Cato claims the numbers expounded by SOPA's backers, and repeated by their whores in congress, are bullshit.

Basically, MPAA claims online piracy costs the U.S. economy $200-250 billion per year, and had killed 750,000 American jobs.

This article, in tracking down those claims, and checking with the GAO, show piracy...
1- Costs the US economy nothing, zip, zero.
2- Costs the Hollywood studios $445 million, which equals the gross for the last Alvin & The Chipmunks.
3- Costs zero US jobs, except maybe employment in copyright-intensive sectors (lawyers).

Also, implementation would cost the taxpayers $47 million a year, plus untold millions more in ISP compliance costs which would be passed on to the consumer.

tw 01-22-2012 11:57 PM

Lack of necessary knowledge in Congress (state and Federal) is even why we changed daylight saving times that did nothing to decrease costs. And that cause increase costs. Such as equipment that now has the wrong time for three weeks every year.

Cited in another discussion was WiFi. About 50% of the states banned public WiFi by anyone but the incumbent communication companies. This law was made only to protect the big communication companies (Comcast, Time Warner, Verizon, etc) from innovation by smaller companies (ie Earthlink). Why would any legislature do this? Their only information comes from expensive lobbyists.

Why has Google increased their Washington office from near zero to become their largest facilities outside of the Silicon Valley? Lobbying rather than basic technical knowledge is important when Congressmen are extremists rather than informed moderates. He who pays more to buy a Congressman learned long ago which ones are best purchased. With a Supreme Court who said this was good, even Google must now buy Congressmen.

Lamplighter 01-23-2012 08:19 AM

The warranty on at least three members of the 9 members of the Supreme Court has expired.
Their initials are Scalia, Thomas, and TBA

How much would it cost to replace one ?
...and would there be progressive discounts for each additional replacement ?
.


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