Today's fashion
 

80s is back. torn jeans, pre-stressed clothing etc. Rips, coffee stains... so fashionable. When, oh when, will pre-stressed underarm areas be cool? White crustydeodorant stains on black t-shirts and yellow-ish sweat stains on white t-shirts?

really? or sarcasm? is that's the going on fashion?

last time i was looking for clothes it was for a winter coat and they all had a sort of world war 2 vest look to them... sort of like something jack from torchwood would wear... i liked it.

then again i am not sure if its actually in fashion or a really bad store still holding out its stock of xxxl's from 70 years ago for the ocasional large guy.

Traceur, my dear, you are a darling but you really need to do your own research. Evidently not your strong point, but that's kind of how life rolls.

You already have learned (not through your own research but at least you asked) that the cellar is an old, old community

General browsing would divulge to you that so very few of us are fashion-conscious......

This thread is in the "Nothingland" forum -another check in the not-terribly-serious column....

so, please do go ahead and assume sarcasm. Although I prefer "amusing bullshit with a hint of irony" (not of the alanis school)

80s fashions sucked in the eighties, but I just didn't know it then.

I wish hobo fashion would take off, I have an abundant supply. Those hobos, they know something and are way ahead of the game in the sweat stained look. At least in the summer. But they smell better in the winter. Hm. That's weird!

rope belts?

pointy purple shoes?

...oh no, wait, that's dead homos.......

yay for online catfights.

i used to organize LARPs - we had chainmail, tailored toga's, a few poor escuses for roman platemail...

now that should come back.

I have noticed the 80s look is back as a retro thing.

huh?

See... you need to do more research. infi is my wife.

Hahahhah! Really, the dead wear it so well. The way things sort of gracefully drape them, better than any 90 pound supermodel. Victorias Secret should just wheel out dead people, in wheelbarrows, dressed for the annual bra and panty extravaganza that they think needs to be on television. I might watch that, but I guess it wouldn't give their target audience much to spray their shorts over, so it would hurt the ratings.

come on, there's no guys on the internetz.

leather and fur are awesome. we should all get over our stupid ideologies, not to mantion fur beddings and blankets. no idea how the laundry would go, but how awesome would that be?

Post 9 in response to post 5, btw. Geez honey, we never talk anymore. :lol:

huh, apearently fur bedding is an actual thing...

http://www.beddingchic.com/images/PB_furthrows.jpg

i really don't do my research.

Well, I can kinda give you a pass on that, given the (alleged) guys that have actually bothered to respond to your posts here to this point... but are you trying to tell us you have no balls either? Because if so, why in the name of spexxvet didn't you say so earlier? that's all we were waiting for, dummy! Why did you stay on the outside so long? classicman will be along shortly to wax you, and then XXXX will be along to administer the special induction quiz :)

xoxox

but really, please don't doubt my marriage to a dwellar again.

oh and i forgot the flint test... but that's a paradiddle

not a people person are you?

who, me? No. Well.... define people person... I love people. I eat children for breakfast and adults for lunch, but I just can't bring myself to enjoy people like you. Maybe I'm an antifucktardarian? Or something. :)

go....

:D

:lol2:

The correct term is 'fucktardist'

i have to admit monster you go me, i've never met a troll from The Greatest Generation and didn't see it coming.

but it is interesting - the tactics are very different; backhanded compliments? looking for stereotypical sensitive spots like parenting? your like a "real life" version of this:

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_onmP0QJlJA...2520070153.jpg

i haven't fallen to feeding the trolls in ages, but with you i sort of want to feed you to see what comes out next....

[Willy] A little nonsense now and then is relished by the wisest men. [/Wonka]

Miss, miss! He called me a name! And he posted a rude picture! Miss! he hurt my feeeeelings.......


Miiiiiss! there's a troll in the playground!

:rolleyes:

Traceur, you bragged of your bad parenting. You got called out on it. You made a dick of yourself, you didn't need my help. And you know, there are usually a bazillion yippy-yappers waiting to voraciously defend anyone I might slightly disagree with..... and yet there was kind of a deafening silence there......

Bragged of his bad parenting? Wtf are you talking about? I must have missed that.

not sure if your serious or just looking for more food, but i'll amuse you:
"o no, and i didn't even take my child to church..."

a good parent knows his child and knows his capacities - whether its telling the difference between real and pretend, whats the child's understanding of violence and when he understands its wrong. bad parenting such as simply trying to block it from the kid is simply delaying a strike that will get there when you don't have a chance to provide any context. the key is to present it with the right understanding of what's going on so that the child has a context to understand it by when he is exposed to it.
the timing of when you choose what to expose him to based on what dagree of context you know he is able to understand, and the basis for doin that comes from knowing your own kid, but you have to keep in mind that the later you do it the more likely it is society is going to be beat you to it.

if you genuinely believe that pointing that out is calling out on bad parenting, and if the lack of understanding says anything about how you are as a parent, then all you've done is allowing others to do the bad parenting for you.

but hey, since you seem so inclined to let others vote for what should count as the right way to parent by their yippy-yapping, you probably shouldn't feel bad. there are millions of parents whose children get behind their backs to see and do whatever they can while their parents are waiting for the day they themselves are ready to talk about birds and bees. your kids will fit in perfectly fine.

Do you show prontography to your 5 year old child ? I doubt it.

Murderous blood and realistic violence: yeah, sure, he can handle that. But I bet you draw the line about showing him prontography.

And "context to understand it when he is exposed to it." I don't know, perhaps he'll run into a lot of Flamethrowers and futuristic annihilation weapons in CANADA, but I doubt it. Because, it's Canada. And because the whole "UNREAL" thing.

:headshake

Well. All I know is that my nieces were allowed to watch things that were rated way above their age, when my brother and SiL thought they would be ok with it. The eldest, when she was 9, loved Kill Bill. Used to try out some of the fighting moves in the living room and had the soundtrack and all sorts.

A more well-adjusted young woman you could not hope to meet.

By your standards here that would seem to be bad parenting. Letting a 9 year old watch Kill Bill. But I'd happily punch in the face anybody who tried to tell me that. Because my brother and his wife are excellent parents.

The point is: that all children are different, and develop at different stages. Can cope with different levels of reality. Good parenting involves knowing your child. Not just taking as read whatever agebased bar the ratings agencies have given.

really? the "they don't care about violence but they block anything sexual" cultural cirtisizm? does anything about me read american to you?

i am not going to show him two girls and a cup and i am not going to show him somone taking out anyone's entrails. but he has a context to understand violence and he has a context to understand people having sex.

with sex we had to improvise to build on his understanding, because he saw it, it wasn't planned but he did, and he had the unfortunate correct understanding that mommy and daddy are playing, which while technically being true it has the unfortunate implications that its something he might enjoy trying with his friends.

now i wasn't going to give him the bullshit about it being to only make babies or that its something people only do when they are inlove. we had to change what he got from it that from something that can be fun to something that will be fun one day, when he grows up. he already knew that just like somethings didn't use to be funny but are starting to be funny now because he understands the jokes, and we built on that. sex is something that is yucky that one day will be fun to play, but only when he is big like daddy and when his friends are big like mommy.

5 years old vs 9 years old: different worlds.

No, but you sure tried, gawd bless ya! Well sort of. Canada is close enough.

I'm glad the little tyke will be ready for the alien armageddon, really. :lol:

..or school :p

seriously when i just came there my kid used to get into trouble a lot for hitting, which is almost natural considering he's bigger then his class mates, but it came with certain responsibilities as far as i was concerned.

after awhile on working on it he stoped completely, and since then he got into trouble for hitting exactly once - when an older kid was hitting my kid's friend. kids will be kids, but he knows how to playfight without physically hurting and he knows when its ok to hurt someone else.

He only lived in Canada for a couple of years. He isn't from there

Also, I never said that you were somehow ruining your kid for life. tsk tsk, there be much protesting too much going on here.

Many children rise above, intuitively know better, and turn out lovely.

I just think it's an excuse to play the game you want to play while you're responsible for a five year old child. Which smacks of childish all by itself.

I know that Dana. That was my point. Canada is at least in North America, though it wouldn't have him.

But...surprise! Guess who IS in Canada? The kid!

Try not to say that in such triumph, Infi. Have a little sensitivity to his extremely recent loss eh.

The world could use more sensitivity. Less blood and guts.

Touche :p

Strike that.

OK, I am sorry about that trac. I'm sure this has been very difficult for you.

I do have a problem with the kid and violent game thing but again, that's not to say you're ruining him.

yep.

don't get me wrong - i love doing creative stuff with him, i love playing ball in the park with him, i love finding every oppertunity to learn to read and write and basic calc', but i can't do it all day everyday without a break.

so i do sometimes do things that i enjoy with the kid. really how many kids follow their parents footsteps in likes and dislikes because of it? almost every body into sports got into it by watching matches with his dad. with both his parents being gamers, that kind of time with both me and her was usually playing games.

as long as its something you do on ocasions and isn't your main activitiy with the child, and as long as your considerate about what he feels regarding it and still use its oppertunities positively, i dont see harm in it.

edit: as for violent games, read my previous posts here. you really should think twice before you send out your kids to play violent video games with their play dates.

Fair enough.

Please to ignore my judging. ;)

honestly dana its ok -

when it comes to parening you wont' find a parent who isn't sensitive about it, we all want to think we know how to make our kids into the perfect snowflake of our ideals.

monster's and infinite monkey's ideas of how to achieve this are probably misguided, but they at least have one thing going towards having the right idea: just because its sensitive and uncomfortable doesn't make it into something you shouldn't talk about it, after all its sensitive because its important.

if she didn't bring it up, monster would have never had the oppertunity to understand that when examining it rationaly her way of parenting is a lot more likely to be harmful for her kids, and if she has the capacity to give feedback based on her assumptions at one point i am sure she has the capacity to get feedback about her assumptions and thus her own parenting.


i mean if she can do one but not the other and she hasn't looked into herself in order to find ways to fix that, is that the sort of role model she wants to be? i doubt it.

Now now, trac. I can't speak for monster, but I think that you're being unfair...very unfair, and therefore putting the shoe on the other foot.

You don't know anything about monster's parenting skills, but I can tell you that those kids are completely and totally awesome. You think because monster wouldn't find a violent video game appropriate for a five year old that monster doesn't TALK to the kids, and monster SHELTERS the kids, and those kids will have zero coping skills? Because they don't have important discussions about flamethrowers? What. The. Fuck?

Poppycock, with the emphasis on cock.

You don't get to not be judged, then turn around and judge. :right:

nobody gets to not be judged :p

Ach damn. Battles over parenting styles are a fool's game. Too much riding on it.

But its such good drama! Now I'm primed to go see Carnage when it comes out.

traceur, once again your complete lack of research shows. And it's not becoming. And look what you did to a bullshit thread. :cry:

You know what else is rude? Telling people how to rear their kids. Yeah, parents don't even like it when their relatives give "parenting" opinions, much less a stranger. So, let's stop the judgement and criticism here. We all have our rights to teach our kids however we deemed right, no matter how others feel about it.

Let's talk about fashion again. :D

I'm told that it is very fashionable for me to wear my pajamas well into the afternoon today. At least, it is what I choose to hear.

I agree with ya, Clod. I think my Snoopy fleece pants is extremely fashionable. :D

That's weird, 'cuase when I read your original post the first thing I thought was, "Hey, isn't the 80s coming back into fashion just like when you meet the man of your dreams while you are accepting a delivery of ten thousand spoons from the Fork Emporium and the beautiful delivery girl turns out to be his wife? Or even sort like getting married on an overcast or drizzly day."

poor Alanis. Nobody to pull her aside before it was too late and tell her not to do it. Or maybe that was the good advice that she just didn't take.

What about people who say "I was being ironic." That doesn't seem right to me. You can say something ironic, but you're not actually ironic.

Though, I guess it's ok to say "I was being funny" even though, in most cases, that person was merely TRYING to be funny.

I was being ironical, I think is the right way to say it.

I roniced?

When my younger son was 5 I took him up to Maine. It was a looooooooooong drive from Ohio, as you can imagine. I was in a caravan of cars as my whole extended family was going in about four different cars.

I was driving thru NYC and my brother in law was riding shotgun.

Danny was sitting in the back, seatbelt secure, sunglasses on a button nose.

Out of nowhere he says, "I'm going to be sarcastic."

And then he never said another word till we got to Connecticut!

White socks and sandals with a pair of shorts are back in. Around my house anyway.

No merc. No. No. No.

And, NO.

Really, think of the children. No.

(In HS my friend's dad would wear shorts, tennis shoes and black socks, so we called him Daddy Black Socks. He didn't care.) :lol:








No.

I am currently the height of fashion. I am sporting the super-duper jedi bathrobe look.


[eta]seriously I have no business in a thread about fashion. I choose my look according to what fantasy hero I want to look like. I genuinely bought a hooded cape because it looked like it was from Thief, or Assassin's Creed.

lol

Wouldn't that be II roniced?