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monster 12-09-2011 04:13 PM

JIM!
 
Why aren't car dealerships open on Sundays? I'm pretty sure that's the biggest car sale day in the UK. I could have just made 85% of that stat up, though....

jimhelm 12-09-2011 04:38 PM

Blue laws

infinite monkey 12-09-2011 05:11 PM

South of the border, monster. You can buy a car in Ohio on Sunday.

jimhelm 12-09-2011 05:26 PM

Heathens

infinite monkey 12-09-2011 05:29 PM

I was surprised to see that some states don't allow car sales on Sunday, and I was thinking that if something is restricted surely Ohio likes to restrict stuff. I had to look up blue laws. :)

Clodfobble 12-09-2011 05:30 PM

In Texas, you must be closed one day or the other, but the dealership can choose which one. It's just silly.

Edit: Ha! I went to go look up the Blue Laws in other states to see how widespread this problem was, and on the Wiki page found this awesomeness:

Quote:

Virginia: Traditional forms of hunting on Sunday are illegal, except for raccoons which may be pursued until 2 a.m., hunting on licensed hunting preserves, use of dogs all day to hunt bear, raccoon and fox.

infinite monkey 12-09-2011 05:32 PM

One weekend day or the other?

That is weird. I guess it depends on if the owner is jewish or christian. ;)

Clodfobble 12-09-2011 06:10 PM

I do think that's why they did it that way. Although actually, the way it tends to work out is new car dealerships are open on Saturday, then used car lots are open on Sundays. For the people who go shopping, get the sticker shock and realize they need to be looking somewhere else. :)

HungLikeJesus 12-09-2011 06:13 PM

In Colorado the dealerships are open on Saturday, and are much more civilized than the Michigan dealers.

footfootfoot 12-09-2011 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by jimhelm (Post 779148)
Blue laws

Why don't you just take care of it in the shower?

zippyt 12-09-2011 10:06 PM

Hell around here some places are closed Sunday And Monday

Sundae 12-10-2011 05:45 AM

Shops/ fast food outlets owned by observant Muslims here close on Friday afternoons for Mosque.
So you could try to shop on a Friday, Saturday or Sunday and be thwarted by religion!

Our local Post Office closes every Tuesday afternoon. Not sure why, but it always has.
And some of the small traditional shops (less and less of them now) still observe early closing on a Wednesday.
The owner-run store I worked in, in Leicester used to close for school events like Sports Day or Nativity, so both parents could attend.
My ex-husband used to close his shop willy-nilly, just sticking a handwritten "back soon" sign on the door. But that was a comic shop, so customers expected that kind of treatment.

24 hour shopping - a long-needed convenience or eroding the fabric of English tradition?

jimhelm 12-10-2011 06:39 AM

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Originally Posted by footfootfoot (Post 779227)
Why don't you just take care of it in the shower?

that reminds me of a song I heard once

monster 12-10-2011 06:52 AM

Quote:

MichiganThe sale of alcohol is banned from 2 a.m. to 7 a.m. Monday through Sunday. The only exception to this rule is New Year's Day, in which case alcohol sales are permitted until 4 a.m. Alcohol sale was likewise banned on Sundays until 12p.m., and on Dec. 25 from 12 a.m. until 12 p.m, until a repeal in late 2010.[22] Specific localities may petition for exceptions for either on-site or off-site consumption.[23]

Additionally, vehicle sales are banned on Sunday in counties having a population of 130,000 or more. Vehicle dealers who keep seventh-day Sabbath from sunset Friday to sunset Saturday may operate on Sundays instead.[24]


monster 12-10-2011 06:55 AM

I've fallen foul of the (now rerealed) alcohol laws before, when grocery shopping before my ceramics class on Sunday morning. 11:55 and they want me to wait for 5 minutes to buy beer. Like I'm going to drink it there and then. Maybe atheists have more self-restraint than christians?

:bolt:

Clodfobble 12-10-2011 08:00 AM

A lot of times they literally can't sell it to you because the registers are all computerized and they won't allow the sale before the clock strikes noon. But the other reason is, the government agencies will set up stings (at least around here.) They will send someone in to try to buy alcohol at 11:55, and if the store sells it they get slapped with a huge fine. Or they'll send someone underage to try to get into a bar, or they'll just come in undercover to all-ages clubs and start hunting down minors who have gotten someone else to buy a beer for them. It's nothing but a revenue-generator, but it's a sizeable revenue-generator, apparently.

Lamplighter 12-10-2011 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Clodfobble (Post 779272)
<snip> It's nothing but a revenue-generator, but it's a sizeable revenue-generator, apparently.

A mild disagreement... it's enforcement or regulation, and really has
an exquisitely small bit to do with generating revenue.

It keeps honest people honest.. and if not, the size of the fine has to be large
enough to get the owner's attention compared to having to give up their "illegal" income.

My experience came from a clinical lab doing PAP smears, where the
director was doing them, himself, to avoid having to pay a pathologist.
Warnings did not fix the problem, but a very healthy fine did work wonders.
.

busterb 12-10-2011 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Clodfobble (Post 779272)
It's nothing but a revenue-generator, but it's a sizeable revenue-generator, apparently.

True. In most States. Like this great asshole state.
And that is NOT IMHO.

monster 12-10-2011 01:24 PM

I'm just surprised they think i'll wait 5 minutes. i'm not that damn desperate and my class starts at 12. I'll buy my beer later. You are right, fob, that the registers won't let them.

CzinZumerzet 12-10-2011 01:56 PM

Takes me back to the days of the Lord's Day Observance Society when the only shops open on Sunday were paper shops and they were only allowed to sell papers. Wales was also 'dry' on Sundays and hordes of thirsty Welsh people came pouring off the cross channel ferry to my my town, and we poured 'em back on in the evening.

Sundae 12-10-2011 02:30 PM

I certainly remember the old licensing laws.
We were s'posed to be open 12.00-15.00 on Sundays.
Nice easy shift.
'Cept you had to turn up at 11.30 and hammer on the door to get in, as Ben would be horribly hungover and would not have restocked any of the fridges.

I didn't get paid for that 30 minutes, but I officially worked until midnight on a weekday shift, and if it was quiet I'd be allowed to go 15-30 minutes early, so it was all okay.

The thing is, I worked Saturday nights, and would often get drawn into a lock-in. Either as a barmaid, or sometimes as a punter. Usually a combination of the two as we all got drunk. So I spent many a Sunday afternoon feeling wretched from the beer fumes as I worked. Luckily I was 19-24 so I probably didn't show it.

My Sunday hangover "cure" was pretty much all the regulars offering me a drink!
From the lovely old Aylesbury Ducks who waited outside the door for 12.00, to the pub football team who crashed in about 13.30.

And then Ben would ask me if I wanted to carry on another hour. Pinched and squeezed and given a higher hourly rate, I would agree.
It meant I could flirt with the football team (one of whom was the ex I adored for longer than we actually had a relationship)

Em would start at 19.00.
She said she never knew what to wish for. If I was there, the pub would be in a decent state, but with the additional concern that I might slide slowly off my barstool. Or disappear with someone she wasn't sure of.

If I wasn't there, she would still have the inebriated customers but the fridges would be empty, the tables would be filthy, there would be dirty glasses and ashtrays and the area behind the bar would need a good mop.

jimhelm 12-10-2011 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CzinZumerzet (Post 779307)
Takes me back to the days of the Lord's Day Observance Society when the only shops open on Sunday were paper shops and they were only allowed to sell papers. Wales was also 'dry' on Sundays and hordes of thirsty Welsh people came pouring off the cross channel ferry to my my town, and we poured 'em back on in the evening.

hey there, blue eyes... haven't seen you around much lately... how's things?

plthijinx 12-10-2011 04:16 PM

i just got back from trying to buy a new truck. obviously though, because of the disaster, my credit is below the basement. have to wait for paul to get back from hunting so i can coerce i mean ask him to co-sign for me.

but yeah like clod said, the dealerships are closed on either day of the weekend. usually sundays. dumb i think.

CzinZumerzet 12-10-2011 04:30 PM

[quote=jimhelm;779327]hey there, blue eyes... haven't seen you around much lately... how's things?[/QUOTe

Wicked1 Sitting on the floor drowning in a sea of Christmas wrapping paper and ribbons, glass of red next to me and Woody Allen film 'Vicky Christina Barcelona' on TV. Oh and I have chocolate mints. Wicked:)

monster 12-10-2011 05:19 PM

Just got in from test driving the Fiesta and the Focus and buying a festive tree ;) -was supposed to also drive the Fit, but they sold it while we were en route. :rolleyes:

So, it looked like the extra deals on the Foci were drawing us towards that because we could get either car for pretty much the same price. Having driven them, we're reasonably firmly in the Fiesta camp. Very smooth, very nippy and not noticeably less room than the Focus. Also, in the new focus, it may have the split rear seat the old one (and the Fiesta) didn't, but the car is rearranged in such a way that beest can't get the double seat folded completely with the driver's seat where he needs it, so that kind of nrgates that advantage. The focus was noticeably unresponsive and quite heavy to drive. the kids squabbled equally in both.

monster 12-10-2011 05:20 PM

Philthy, can you weld a truck frame? my friend has an old Toyota truck going for peanuts to someone who can deal with a condemned frame..... :lol:


(currently our second car)

monster 12-10-2011 05:29 PM

Which reminds me...... We don't have a trade-in. We wouldn't have had, even if I hadn't rearranged it in an interesting way. But our friends have this truck they no longer want/can't really sell.

It's a Toyota Tacoma, old, 104,000 miles, starts first time, every time, even in the cold.... but there was a recall on the frames because they rust out, when they took it in they were told they missed the cut off by three weeks, yes, their truck was condemned/would have been eligable for the buy-back, but they were too late. So now they can only sell it for parts or to someone who can fix the frame/is willing to take the risk (a mechanic friend took a look and told them it's probably got a couple of years left. probably)

but it drives really nicely. for a vehicle that age, etc.

Is there any chance they might get more money for it if we used it as a trade-in and gave them what we got? I'm thinking not, but I'm not exactly a seasoned car buyer and have never traded a car in......

....also, dear cognoscenti..... does one get a better trade-in offer if one is laying out more $$$?

tia

monster 12-10-2011 05:32 PM

hmm shoulda put all that in the car buying thread. oh well....

infinite monkey 12-10-2011 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CzinZumerzet (Post 779340)
Wicked1 Sitting on the floor drowning in a sea of Christmas wrapping paper and ribbons, glass of red next to me and Woody Allen film 'Vicky Christina Barcelona' on TV. Oh and I have chocolate mints. Wicked:)

I love Penelope Cruz in that movie. She's so dynamic! What did you think?


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